06-02-2016, 03:24 PM
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#961
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Toonage
Flames should hire all available coaches and have some sort of Justice League of coaches behind the bench.
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Or they could be the Votron Force of NHL coaches. When in a pinch, they combine to form a super coach.
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06-02-2016, 03:43 PM
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#962
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Michael Russo @Russostrib
Re: my earlier tweets, Mike Yeo is still in St. Louis meeting with #stlblues GM Doug Armstrong and coach Ken Hitchcock.
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06-02-2016, 05:13 PM
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#963
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: CGY
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Chris Johnston @reporterchris
Kirk Muller has taken a job as #habs associate coach.
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06-02-2016, 05:27 PM
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#964
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Franchise Player
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Muller will be the head coach in Montreal before December.
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06-02-2016, 05:29 PM
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#965
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RANDOM USER TITLE CHANGE
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Muller will be the head coach in Montreal before December.
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I think that's likely if Price gets hurt again.
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06-02-2016, 08:08 PM
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#967
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Saving the world one gif at a time
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hockey.modern
chris johnston @reporterchris
kirk muller has taken a job as #habs associate coach.
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good!!!
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06-02-2016, 08:28 PM
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#968
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Franchise Player
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We talk about some rival fans being in dreamland with their analysis on their team, players and coaches on one hand yet take their views on a potential coach for the Flames as evidence of his success.
It's a funny example of framing things to fit your view point.
It makes sense though for the Flames to complement a more green coach with a group of people with real experience.
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06-02-2016, 09:16 PM
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#969
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ottawa
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A rookie head coach with an experienced hand as associate seems very much in tune with the way the Flames are (re)building the organization. Hockey Operations is all about more-heads-are-better-than-one with Burke, Treliving, Conroy, and Pascal.
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06-02-2016, 09:53 PM
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#970
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Airdrie
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I have been doing some research on Ralph Kruger and I got to say I don't understand the hype here. 48 Games NHL head coaching experience and most of his success was as a tier 2 german league coach (1994-98), and then he switched to premier league football in 2014 ? The guy isn't even in hockey anymore since 2014 and had a brief cup of coffee back in 2012-13. Besides writing a best seller book, I don't understand how people think he should be a front-runner for the job. He is in soccer right now people ! since 2014.
If this is all about being a good motivational speaker, then let's hire Tony Robbins because from what I'm researching here, I would take back Hartley over Kruger in a heartbeat. I even work with an Oilers fan who said Kruger was a good coach but where's the proof and the results on north american soil ? How can an opinion on him being a good NHL coach even be formed ? IDK, but, am I taking crazy pills here that people would rather a guy in soccer right now to be the coach of the Calgary Flames ? Not only has he been out of the game for 2 years and in soccer, but has limited NHL coaching experience to boot ( 48 G ). Yikes !
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06-02-2016, 10:41 PM
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#972
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RANDOM USER TITLE CHANGE
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Ralph Kreuger:
- Tons of international experience
- 20+ years of coaching experience
- Accomplished more with the Oilers than anyone has for a decade or so
- Selected to coach Team Europe at the World Cup of Hockey
- Won a gold medal with Canada at Sochi, as part of their staff
North American soil isn't the most crucial measuring stick.
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I just don't think it's worth getting stoked about until Kruger actually coaches a full season.
Hartley had a ton of career highs for both forwards and dmen last season. Gaudreau, Giordano, Hamilton, Backlund, Colborne all had career years for points or goals.
Treliving needs to get a goalie before any coaching system works, IMO.
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06-02-2016, 10:49 PM
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#973
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Ralph Kreuger:
- Tons of international experience
- 20+ years of coaching experience
- Accomplished more with the Oilers than anyone has for a decade or so
- Selected to coach Team Europe at the World Cup of Hockey
- Won a gold medal with Canada at Sochi, as part of their staff
North American soil isn't the most crucial measuring stick.
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I don't think he's a serious candidate but regardless I'm lukewarm on him as while he did have the Oilers playing great special teams they still did melt down at the end of the season under him as who can forget the absolute beating the Flames mostly AHL squad put on them to officially eliminate them which led to Tambellini being fired shortly after. Close to 60 and never coached an NHL team for a full 82 game season I simply see him as too close to his expiry date before his NHL resume has even begun.
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06-02-2016, 10:50 PM
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#974
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil
I just don't think it's worth getting stoked about until Kruger actually coaches a full season.
Hartley had a ton of career highs for both forwards and dmen last season. Gaudreau, Giordano, Hamilton, Backlund, Colborne all had career years for points or goals.
Treliving needs to get a goalie before any coaching system works, IMO.
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Gaudreau: Only his 2nd season so 'career high' is a bit ambiguous.
Giordano: Would have easily surpassed his point totals in the previous 2 years save for injuries.
Hamilton: Barely beat 2014-15 totals by 2 goals and 1 point despite playing 10 more games.
Backlund: Long time coming, absolutely had a fantastic season even if a lot of the points came after March I believe.
Colborne: Solid season but you'd hope that he would have achieved that given the amount of chances and opportunities he got.
Treliving will end up getting a goalie/coach. It's not like he can't do both at the same time.
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06-02-2016, 10:59 PM
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#975
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Ralph Kreuger:
- Tons of international experience
- 20+ years of coaching experience
- Accomplished more with the Oilers than anyone has for a decade or so
- Selected to coach Team Europe at the World Cup of Hockey
- Won a gold medal with Canada at Sochi, as part of their staff
North American soil isn't the most crucial measuring stick.
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Only 48 games. And didn't really accomplish anything. I would argue it has yet to be seen his international experience translates to the NHL.
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06-02-2016, 11:03 PM
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#976
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RANDOM USER TITLE CHANGE
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anduril
Gaudreau: Only his 2nd season so 'career high' is a bit ambiguous.
Giordano: Would have easily surpassed his point totals in the previous 2 years save for injuries.
Hamilton: Barely beat 2014-15 totals by 2 goals and 1 point despite playing 10 more games.
Backlund: Long time coming, absolutely had a fantastic season even if a lot of the points came after March I believe.
Colborne: Solid season but you'd hope that he would have achieved that given the amount of chances and opportunities he got.
Treliving will end up getting a goalie/coach. It's not like he can't do both at the same time.
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Ok, well I just don't think coaching was a bigger problem than goaltending last season. The Flames still finished 11th in shots against.
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06-02-2016, 11:06 PM
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#977
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Airdrie
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Ralph Kreuger:
- Tons of international experience
- 20+ years of coaching experience
- Accomplished more with the Oilers than anyone has for a decade or so
- Selected to coach Team Europe at the World Cup of Hockey
- Won a gold medal with Canada at Sochi, as part of their staff
North American soil isn't the most crucial measuring stick.
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May I ask a serious question ? How did Kruger accomplish more with the Oilers than any other Oilers coach in 10 plus years in 48 games and a loosing record ? How can you even form an opinion on 48 games ? Yes, he was probably cut loose too soon cause of idiotic management in Edmonton, but, still- where's the track record for North American hockey ?
Having 20 plus years coaching is great, but there are guys who have been coaching in the minors, professional, for many years as well. He coached German tier 2 ! The guy is in soccer now- since 2014.
I don't know man, this Kruger thing is absolutely baffling to me- zero sense. And you want him as the new Flames coach ?
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06-02-2016, 11:18 PM
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#978
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Airdrie
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil
Ok, well I just don't think coaching was a bigger problem than goaltending last season. The Flames still finished 11th in shots against.
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Goal tending was horrific. I'm so happy that Hiller is gone ( on knees more than a prostitute). I think coach Hartley is a good coach- very good. Questionable line combinations at times etc but if I was to sit back and look at both the resumes' of Hartley and Kruger...there isn't even a comparison.
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06-02-2016, 11:21 PM
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#979
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cowtown75
Goal tending was horrific. I'm so happy that Hiller is gone ( on knees more than a prostitute). I think coach Hartley is a good coach- very good. Questionable line combinations at times etc but if I was to sit back and look at both the resumes' of Hartley and Kruger...there isn't even a comparison.
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So of all the names we've heard you're most comfortable with Carlyle?
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06-02-2016, 11:36 PM
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#980
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cowtown75
I have been doing some research on Ralph Kruger and I got to say I don't understand the hype here. 48 Games NHL head coaching experience and most of his success was as a tier 2 german league coach (1994-98), and then he switched to premier league football in 2014 ? The guy isn't even in hockey anymore since 2014 and had a brief cup of coffee back in 2012-13. Besides writing a best seller book, I don't understand how people think he should be a front-runner for the job. He is in soccer right now people ! since 2014.
If this is all about being a good motivational speaker, then let's hire Tony Robbins because from what I'm researching here, I would take back Hartley over Kruger in a heartbeat. I even work with an Oilers fan who said Kruger was a good coach but where's the proof and the results on north american soil ? How can an opinion on him being a good NHL coach even be formed ? IDK, but, am I taking crazy pills here that people would rather a guy in soccer right now to be the coach of the Calgary Flames ? Not only has he been out of the game for 2 years and in soccer, but has limited NHL coaching experience to boot ( 48 G ). Yikes !
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The big thing about Krueger is that he was arguably the most instrumental player in building the Swiss national team. NHL experience is an asset but not required and his brief cup of coffee that you seem adamant to write off was probably the only time over the last 8 years the Oilers showed major signs of improvement, the only coach the players seemed to buy into.
Krueger is thought of very highly in hockey circles from everything I have read, probably more so than any candidate being suggested.
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