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View Poll Results: Should the Flames give Mason Raymond a shot?
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Yes, play him on the second line with Bennett.
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Yes, play him on the fourth line with Bollig.
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No, but call him up at the first opportunity.
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No, it's time to give some prospects a shot.
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05-31-2016, 06:13 PM
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#21
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Stampede Corral
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Seems that Toronto year was his outlier. Unless he tears it up in pre-season, buhbye MaydayRay, enjoy la vie en Suisse
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05-31-2016, 06:16 PM
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#22
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Karl
Is he though? Is he really STILL that player? Are you sure you're not thinking about the Raymond from 3 years ago and before? To me he looks closer to being washed up than not.
And who would you buy out, if anyone? Just curious.
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He's not the player he was 3 years ago, and I would not want him as our starting option in the top 6 or rely on him for scoring. That being said, when call ups occur, you don't always have ideal options. He's still an NHL player in that he can keep up with the play, knows about positioning, etc...
I agree we need to give rookies opportunities too, but you can only slide so many into the lineup at one time before things fall apart.
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05-31-2016, 06:17 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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He is Stockton material if he can't be moved.
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05-31-2016, 06:46 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary
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I think a new coach may be just what he needs.
I liked the idea of meritocracy with Bob but Bob just didnt like raymond.
Hes quick and soft however. Id take PAul Byron back so fast if we could flip Bollig and Raymond to Montreal.
oi vey.
Stockton will be where he sits for a majority of net season is my guess and aslong as he is making a contribution there its not hurting anyone.
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05-31-2016, 06:54 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: A small painted room
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Hopefully he gets some finnish in him in the off-season 😀
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05-31-2016, 07:00 PM
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#26
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Rhymes with "thigh drought". Now.
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05-31-2016, 07:08 PM
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#27
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Buying him out just carries money into year after next. Let him compete in camp like everyone else. I like having him around - it's a good reminder of why to stay away from UFA signings.
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05-31-2016, 07:20 PM
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#28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EVERLAST
I think a new coach may be just what he needs.
I liked the idea of meritocracy with Bob but Bob just didnt like raymond.
Hes quick and soft however. Id take PAul Byron back so fast if we could flip Bollig and Raymond to Montreal.
oi vey.
Stockton will be where he sits for a majority of net season is my guess and aslong as he is making a contribution there its not hurting anyone.
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Not sure about that - Bob gave him a lot more ice-time to do something than I ever would have.
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05-31-2016, 07:22 PM
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#29
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Pants Tent
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Originally Posted by calumniate
Hopefully he gets some finnish in him in the off-season 😀
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I'm not sure time in Finland would help him much! 
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05-31-2016, 07:52 PM
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#30
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give him a shot with a new coach at training camp and see how he does. But I don't expect him at all to steal a spot. If by some miracle he does play well, hopefully he gets flipped for a pick immediately when some other team notices him
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05-31-2016, 08:03 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Buying him out just carries money into year after next. Let him compete in camp like everyone else. I like having him around - it's a good reminder of why to stay away from UFA signings.
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Yeah I'd rather bury him for a year, if necessary, than buy him out.
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05-31-2016, 08:22 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
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Let him take over TheScorpion's CP account, and enjoy the quality uptick.
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05-31-2016, 08:56 PM
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#33
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No point in buying out Raymond unless there is a rock solid plan in place to effectively utilize the cap space it would create, or if he will likely be a poison pill down on the farm.
Otherwise just give him a chance at camp, and if he fails then send him back to Stockton.
No point taking on a buy out penalty for 2017/18 unless it's absolutely necessary.
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05-31-2016, 09:28 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Finger Cookin
Let him take over TheScorpion's CP account, and enjoy the quality uptick.
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What are you trying to say, here? 
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05-31-2016, 09:28 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Raymond +#6 + janko for Clarkson and #3
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05-31-2016, 09:41 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Personally, I believe that we have to give him a fair shot. That means sustained playing time with Bennett.
We can't afford to play this like we did with Setoguchi.
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Why does giving him a fair shot have to mean sustained time with Bennett as if there is no other way to give him a fair shot?
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05-31-2016, 09:45 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
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Would anyone here trade Raymond for Bickell plus a 4th or 5th round pick?
Both guys spent the majority of the season in the AHL last year, but we'd be getting back a 6'4" 225lb winger who'd probably be pretty relieved to get a change of scenery heading into his contract year.
Flames get a late pick for taking on the extra $900k of cap.
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05-31-2016, 09:56 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poe969
Raymond +#6 + janko for Clarkson and #3
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Clarkson is a toxic contract. No!
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05-31-2016, 10:04 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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05-31-2016, 10:43 PM
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Yah I think the Flames give him a chance and if he earns it he stays, if not, they've shown no issues with sending him to Stockton.
Crappy situation for Raymond and I hope he succeeds!
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