Alberta Politics Thread

[Amethyst]

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

We shouldn't even deal with Wynne period. In business, whenever you hold your nose and deal with a snake because you think you need to, you wind up getting burned. She's a write off and will cause more harm than good.

But Alberta is not a business and it's not like we can just ignore an entire province because of who their premier is.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

We shouldn't even deal with Wynne period. In business, whenever you hold your nose and deal with a snake because you think you need to, you wind up getting burned. She's a write off and will cause more harm than good.

These types of business platitudes always deal in absolutes.

[Kavvy]

Originally Posted by Slava

Those are two separate issues. He was suspended due to appearing to condone the Facebook post, and as CHL noted above he has already apologized for that numerous times.

oh, well my bad.

[OMG!WTF!]

Here's what's probably going to happen. Wynne will go back to Ontario, realize the only people who vote for her don't like AB oil and then she'll create a bunch of impossible conditions for us that allow her to keep her commitment to working with us for the good of the nation while giving herself a chance to keep her job. No pipeline will ever get built nor existing one repurposed. And she'll just end up costing us a bunch of money. And Notely will happily use her model for destroying our province too. Nobody seems to get just how bad debt is.

And like it or not, stupid people are impossible to deal with. Crooked people are dangerous to deal with. And Wynne is very much both. This is not a business platitude. It's a fact of life.

[Kavvy]

And, they did the right thing:

AB Wildrose House Leader Nathan Cooper apologizes for how the party treated @Kathleen_Wynne in the #ableg yesterday. #onpoli

from Michel BoyerVerified account twitter

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Amethyst

But Alberta is not a business and it's not like we can just ignore an entire province because of who their premier is.

As Fildebrandt pointed out, Notley seems intent on ignoring Saskatchewan because of who their premier is.


As far as Fildebrandt's suspension goes, seems it was ultimately an accumulation of issues - much like with Drever. And with the same result. As I noted when bringing this up, the Wildrose found itself in damage control mode pretty quickly. The apology and the suspensions became necessary.

[Resolute 14]

And in other news, which Fildebrandt's actions will help bury, Rachel Notley is having another bout of "my side is no better than your side" by naming a partisan NDP supporter to what was supposed to be a neutral position:

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/poli...trong-ndp-ties

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

And in other news, which Fildebrandt's actions will help bury, Rachel Notley is having another bout of "my side is no better than your side" by naming a partisan NDP supporter to what was supposed to be a neutral position:

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/poli...trong-ndp-ties

I liked this part.

The questions riled up deputy premier Sarah Hoffman, who fired back: “News flash, when New Democrats hire, they want to hire people who understand New Democrat world views.”

[CaptainCrunch]

This NDP party is absolutely starting to look very corrupt when it comes to fund raising from selling access to MLA's and the premiere to doing partisan fundraisers under the name of Provincial government events to this

Elections Alberta records show Gray has given more than $23,500 to the NDP over the past decade, including $5,000 directly to Premier Rachel Notley’s campaign to become party leader in 2014.
Though now semi-retired, Gray worked under the Edmonton-based Chivers Carpenter law firm headed by former NDP MLA Barrie Chivers. The law firm and Chivers himself have also given many donations to the NDP over the years.

I always thought that at the heart of it Notley was honest but naive and misguided, but she's as cynical and corrupt as anyone else, now she's selling positions.

And she's really loading up the government with Union Flunkies.

The next government that comes in is going to spend a time burning that infection out with a blow torch and trying to fix the damage this band of fools is doing.

[Slava]

That's ridiculous. I guess at least the minister is admitting their bias right off the bat.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Slava

That's ridiculous. I guess at least the minister is admitting their bias right off the bat.

I honestly think the media has to take her to task with what a New Democrat World view is and how it fits in with the province they're running. Because frankly it looks like the NDP world view is giving huge power to the unions and buying influence and running massive deficits on deceptive budgets.

They need to come clean on this statement.

Right now I really hope in the next election the NDP are reduced to rump status where they belong. The Conservatives were corrupt after decades of running the country, but this party is starting to look entirely worse.

Notley really needs to go.

If this province could mobilize enough scorn and put enough pressure on the Conservatives to force Redford and Stelmach to FOAD, there's no reason why the same can't happen here.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I always thought that at the heart of it Notley was honest but naive and misguided, but she's as cynical and corrupt as anyone else, now she's selling positions.

Most CEOs and high level executives are sociopaths. It is often difficult to get to the top when one has empathy and a moral compass. No reason to think politicians - of any stripe - are any different.

[Amethyst]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

As Fildebrandt pointed out, Notley seems intent on ignoring Saskatchewan because of who their premier is.

Alberta is still doing business with Saskatchewan. The post I was responding to said to ignore Ontario altogether and have no dealings with them. I don't see how that strategy helps Alberta at all. Maybe a business can have no dealings with another business because they don't like each other, but I don't see how that helps a province.

[stampsx2]

Originally Posted by CampbellsTransgressions

Calling her out accomplishes slightly less than nothing. It was a cheap shot by our genius WR finance critic Derek Fildebrant, who has already shown himself to have only slightly more than 3 functioning brain cells. We apparently are in kindergarten, because we can't have a civilized legislature session without the WR pouting about something they don't like. If you don't think Fildebrant was being a complete #######, then that makes you one as well. End of story.


Now that I think about it, I can't wait to vote for Notley in 3 years.

Hahaha. Ndp supporters to the rescue.

Your post is full of contradiction. A cheap shot by the wildrose but you say they have three brain cells and have stooped to their level with another cheap shot of your own. You don't like it when the wildrose pouts but you're pouting in your post.

Now that I think about it, I can't wait to vote wildrose.

[CampbellsTransgressions]

Originally Posted by stampsx2

Hahaha. Ndp supporters to the rescue.

Your post is full of contradiction. A cheap shot by the wildrose but you say they have three brain cells and have stooped to their level with another cheap shot of your own. You don't like it when the wildrose pouts but you're pouting in your post.

Now that I think about it, I can't wait to vote wildrose.

I never supported the NDP in that post, I just slammed the WR and anyone defending their actions.

There's also a substantial difference between cheapshots in the Alberta Legislature and cheapshots on Calgarypuck. I really don't think I need to elaborate.

Here's what I'm really curious about:

When Christie Clark slammed Alberta in her throne speech, the WR lost their ####. Why is it now okay for them to essentially do the same thing to Ontario?

Hypocrites. Not very intelligent either. Definitely not fit to run this province. They're perhaps fit to run a farm with no safety regulations, but not this province.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by CampbellsTransgressions

I never supported the NDP in that post, I just slammed the WR and anyone defending their actions.

There's also a substantial difference between cheapshots in the Alberta Legislature and cheapshots on Calgarypuck. I really don't think I need to elaborate.

Here's what I'm really curious about:

When Christie Clark slammed Alberta in her throne speech, the WR lost their ####. Why is it now okay for them to essentially do the same thing to Ontario?

Hypocrites. Not very intelligent either. Definitely not fit to run this province. They're perhaps fit to run a farm with no safety regulations, but not this province.

LOL....ok then.

Originally Posted by CampbellsTransgressions

Now that I think about it, I can't wait to vote for Notley in 3 years.

If that's not support for the NDP...not sure what constitutes such.

[CampbellsTransgressions]

Originally Posted by transplant99

LOL....ok then.



If that's not support for the NDP...not sure what constitutes such.

That's a slam on the WR (and PCs) for being unpalatable. They're so bad that I would rather vote for the NDP. I'm not sure how anyone could convey that as meaningful support for the NDP.

[Resolute 14]

Keep saying it, man. You might believe it at some point

[CampbellsTransgressions]

Keep hammering on the point, it might actually become relevant.

Continue to act like a bunch of children for all I care. People like you three are why this province and this country is an absolute ####show.

[Jacks]

Kathleen Wynne suggests she was under ‘vicious’ attack in Alberta legislature because she’s a woman
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...e-shes-a-woman