Everything in the north this episode reminded me of Fellowship of the Ring.
woops, I totally thought of the wrong scene. Bran unwittingly contacting the Night's King is similar to stupid Pip grabbing the crystal ball getting Sauron to launch his attack on the city.
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And I need to re-watch the episode where Varys unboxes the wizard from the earlier seasons. I want to compare his description of that ritual to the one the fire priestess recounted to him in this episode.
it was amazing how hard Varys got smacked down there, doesn't happen too often. but she totally left us hanging...who did Varys see in his own junk fire, and what did the vision say? must know!
anyone remember how the Children of the Forest looked at the end of season 4? they were a lot more human, kind of just like dirty homeless or feral kids. now they look like they're half plant. did something happen to them during Bran's training, or did they just decide they didn't like the original look?
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oh, I guess I answered my own question, since the flashback of the Children creating white walkers shows them with their current look. there's always that one dumb white walker who forges ahead of the others, only to get stabbed with dragonglass or Valyrian steel. except one of the Children tried a conventional spear and got carved for her effort. hey dummy, you made those things, even Meera knew which weapon to pick.
oh and that spiral rock formation during their white walker ceremony is the same as the horse head spiral the walkers made a few seasons back. just an ancient signature they share, or something more meaningful?
The Children's of the Forest got a full Klingon makeover. The Nights King got more of a Cardassian one.
I too enjoyed how Varys got put in his place. I was always surprised how he was so quick to serve Danny when he hates magic so much. That new Red Women is dangerous.
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Well that makes a lot more sense! I was trying to figure out how Hodor would have aged so much while Bran had only aged a few years. I thought maybe going a bit crazy made him put on years....Poor Hodor. That's a long time!
Are people getting the flashbacks confused? The ones at winterfell with hodor are when Ned was a young boy about to get sent off to the eyrie. The one where ned and co fought the two knights was at the end of Roberts rebellion, where ned would be a young man.
Ah got yah. I do get easily confused with all the stuff going on in this show.
So why did Bran have to mind control Hodor in the flashback and not in the present? Was Bran unable to break the flashback? Or was there something so important going on that he didn't want to break it, so he sacrificed Hodor?
What a great season so far though. As somebody very critical of recent seasons, this may be the best of the six.
Pretty sure young Hodor worged into his future self through Bran by seeing him and hearing Meera. He either died in the future and his body was just his subconscious after that, or he was so traumatized by his death experience it permanently disabled him.
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Pretty sure young Hodor worged into his future self through Bran by seeing him and hearing Meera. He either died in the future and his body was just his subconscious after that, or he was so traumatized by his death experience it permanently disabled him.
I believe that was Rickard sending Ned to Riverrun.
The Eyrie, not Riverrun.
When Ned was a boy, he was sent to live at The Eyrie as a ward of Jon Arryn. Robert Baratheon was also a ward of Arryn at the same time, which was the beginning of their friendship.
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So Bran just enslaved Hordor's mind to save himself. Not the most noble thing to do.
Also you think that the 3 eyes raven would have mentioned to Bran not to touch a white walker. I like the white walker origin story. I wonder if they always were turned against the children of the trees or if they fought for them originally.
Where are Theon and his sister going. Will they go over to Mareen with their current ships to get there first so that they can ally with Denaryis and steal their uncles ships first.
Well, I think Bran did it out of necessity. While extreme, Hodor was loyal and their friend. If Bran's capabilities of effecting events of the present from journey's to the past, then Bran is potentially one of the most powerful characters in the book.
Also, his understanding of the Whitewalkers and their terrifying power is fascinating as to how to combat them?
It's been nearly 24 hours, and every time I think about that final Hodor scene, I get weepy. This is a relatively minor character, yet I still have that much emotional investment in him, and that moment. That is an example of brilliant writing, and why this book/show/story is such a compelling one (Sand Snakes aside ).
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It's been nearly 24 hours, and every time I think about that final Hodor scene, I get weepy. This is a relatively minor character, yet I still have that much emotional investment in him, and that moment. That is an example of brilliant writing, and why this book/show/story is such a compelling one (Sand Snakes aside ).
I think a big part of it is you were told he was a nothing character that we could ignore and not mentally get attached too.... and then..
Man, what an episode. That final scene was spectacular. Such a sad yet heroic way to go out.
I was wondering why it went from "Ok the white walker has his mark on you, you need to go" to them doing another trip. Online someone theorized that he had to go back one more time because he had to destroy Hodor's mind so he'd be there to hold the door. Which makes sense.
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