Agreed. I am nearly fanatical about my preparation and planning for when I do partake to make sure I'm prepared, and to be honest I tend to stick to 2g or less as I'm not a fan of long and intense trips, those can be really challenging if you have unresolved or difficult stuff going on in your life.
I have never smoked weed before in my life, but when it's legal I can see myself getting some weed gummies or something when I'm camping, assuming I'd have someone to partake with. The legality has totally kept me from doing it.
I think half the fun of smoking pot was that it was illegal. It brought out a bit of comradery between people as they avoided the cops. Cheech and Chong will never be the same but it was a grand time.
Interesting question Rube, never really thought about it to be honest. I have never been a habitual user by any means but have partaken on numerous occasions. The legality or stigma was never really a concern I just never really did it. I have always had kids around my entire adult life so I never really had time to sit back and get baked or what have you. I've always had had the ability to have 3 or 4 beers and function as a completely normal human being not sure that would be the case with Marijuana.
Nice to know that the majority don't use pot, and for those that do, most will not increase its use.
I can go along with decriminalization, however am concerned with the increased exposure to our youth and the harm it may cause. I believe that most doctors agree that there is not enough research to rule out its harmful affects...immediate or long term.
For those that have kids and use it, remember your kids will mimic their parents. And if its use contributes to mental health problems, you will rue the day it ever became legal.
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Nice to know that the majority don't use pot, and for those that do, most will not increase its use.
I can go along with decriminalization, however am concerned with the increased exposure to our youth and the harm it may cause. I believe that most doctors agree that there is not enough research to rule out its harmful affects...immediate or long term.
For those that have kids and use it, remember your kids will mimic their parents. And if its use contributes to mental health problems, you will rue the day it ever became legal.
Spending some of the revenue from taxes on education should be something that naturally follows as a consequence of legalizing it.
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Spending some of the revenue from taxes on education should be something that naturally follows as a consequence of legalizing it.
Yes, however IMO the potential health care costs could more than offset any income from the taxes. We are presently unable to control our health care costs at it is. Can you imagine what the cost would be with a generation of kids ruined by pot.
Yes, however IMO the potential health care costs could more than offset any income from the taxes. We are presently unable to control our health care costs at it is. Can you imagine what the cost would be with a generation of kids ruined by pot.
Not really. I doubt that usage rates by that demographic would go up much at all, and certainly not by an amount that would cause enough problems that the Taxes couldn't cover.
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A) I don't know anybody who smokes pot in front of their kids.
B) How would kids being exposed to their parents smoking pot be any different from kids being exposed to their parents drinking beer or wine?
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Nope, its easy to grow mushrooms, people pick them, grow them and LSD is much harder to come by.
I say this as someone who has grown mushrooms, hunted them, and been a site owner of the shroomery since 2001.
MDMA if you ever want to try it should be taken in its powder form, I have no faith in the pills, even though there are certainly kits to test those.
I would recommend at least trying MDMA once in a nature setting, the same with mushrooms, but thats just me.. 2 of the most amazing experiences I've had in life were housboating on the beach on MDMA and camping on mushrooms.
OK, I'll concede victory here :-) It's just what I read in the papers. Perhaps there's shrooms that are dipped in something on the market? I always said I'd never done acid, but the possibility of me having taken poser shrooms is likely
Yes, however IMO the potential health care costs could more than offset any income from the taxes. We are presently unable to control our health care costs at it is. Can you imagine what the cost would be with a generation of kids ruined by pot.
Smokers actually cost the healthcare system less than non smokers. I imagine a similar thing could be said of pot smokers
A) I don't know anybody who smokes pot in front of their kids.
B) How would kids being exposed to their parents smoking pot be any different from kids being exposed to their parents drinking beer or wine?
A) Whether they do or they don't... the kids will know. Surely their sense of smell alone would tell them.
B) Possible significant difference with regard to brain development, mental illness e.g. schizophrenia, psychosis, paranoia, etc, and motivation during a critical stage of their life.
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A) Whether they do or they don't... the kids will know. Surely their sense of smell alone would tell them.
B) Possible significant difference with regard to brain development, mental illness e.g. schizophrenia, psychosis, paranoia, etc, and motivation during a critical stage of their life.
Drinking heavily during the critical stage of brain development you're referring to, it's just as bad for a kid as the requisite amount of pot. Nobody loses their mind because they hit a J once in a while. No matter how old they are. Just like no 14 year old ruins their life with a couple beers at a party.
Prolonged, consistent use during teenage years is going to have consequences. That's where it's on parents to do their jobs and parent their kids.
Because of the draconian laws in the US on drugs, kids evolved from smoking weed, drinking booze to snorting pharmaceuticals and abusing prescription drugs. Which is now an epidemic in the US.
Portugal decriminalized all drugs in the early 2000's and the results have been oustanding.
All these arguments that if we legalize it "think of the children!" are the same things you should be as deeply worried about when it comes to alcohol which has far ranging dangers, and prescription drug abuse which can be worse than both alcohol and cannabis combined.
Harvard study not long ago added to the long list of studies refuting mental health issues being caused by smoking cannabis, yet this myth continues.
Of course we don't want kids taking drugs, drinking, abusing prescription drugs, education, good communication with your kids, etc.. But we all know its often the people your kids hang out with that determine if they end up doing these things more than not.
Its just this war on drugs has been a catastrophic failure on so many levels in so many nations, its time we started to take an adult look at how we move forward as a society. I admire Portugal for decriminalizing all drugs, I think eventually we will have to look at even legalizing all drugs and controlling them.
The devastation that would do to cartels, gangs, criminals if this started to happen world wide would be enormous.
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Because of the draconian laws in the US on drugs, kids evolved from smoking weed, drinking booze to snorting pharmaceuticals and abusing prescription drugs. Which is now an epidemic in the US.
Portugal decriminalized all drugs in the early 2000's and the results have been oustanding.
All these arguments that if we legalize it "think of the children!" are the same things you should be as deeply worried about when it comes to alcohol which has far ranging dangers, and prescription drug abuse which can be worse than both alcohol and cannabis combined.
Harvard study not long ago added to the long list of studies refuting mental health issues being caused by smoking cannabis, yet this myth continues.
Of course we don't want kids taking drugs, drinking, abusing prescription drugs, education, good communication with your kids, etc.. But we all know its often the people your kids hang out with that determine if they end up doing these things more than not.
Its just this war on drugs has been a catastrophic failure on so many levels in so many nations, its time we started to take an adult look at how we move forward as a society. I admire Portugal for decriminalizing all drugs, I think eventually we will have to look at even legalizing all drugs and controlling them.
The devastation that would do to cartels, gangs, criminals if this started to happen world wide would be enormous.
I would mention that the widespread abuse of pharmaceutical drugs doesn't come from a linear progression from booze/weed to harder drugs - opiates are widely over prescribed by doctors in the United States. HBO did a great documentary called Heroin: Cape Cod - at least two of the people they're interviewing are dead by the 30 minute mark, and by the end at least one more is dead/missing. Many of the subjects of the film began using when they were prescribed powerful narcotics by their doctors following a serious injury for legitimate medical reasons.
In 1991, 76 million prescriptions were written for hydrocodone/oxycodone etc. In 2013, that number was 207 million. The US consumes nearly 100% of the world's Vicodin, and 81% of the world's Percocet.
These drugs need to be available, but the over-prescribing is a massive issue. I saw that HBO doc, that was really tough to watch, still think about it from time to time.
The issue I have is the ease at which youth are given prescription drugs from psychiatrists for a host of issues, I think most people agree its something we need to take a hard look at.
A friend that died in 2002 from a prescription overdose, on irc chat no less (you can google the thing, RIPPER was his handle)
His family ended up on the John Walsh show and they talked about how he manipulated his shrinks to get more and more drugs, so he could abuse them. He would proudly tell others tricks and kids are not dumb, they know what to say and do to get the drugs they need.
I think we both agree that cannabis is a minor issue in comparison to what damage the prescription industry can do on a massive scale.
Edit, here's the story on Ripper that was pretty famous at the time.
We enjoy edibles on occasion. Usually brownies or cookies, made using ganja butter as a substitute for the oil in many recipes.
The problem is that I cannot take them if I plan to be even remotely productive the next day, unless I take Provigil as soon as I wake up. So my usage is few and far between, and limited to weekends.
