Tipping is now at about 20% for good service

[Springs1]

Originally Posted by 4X4

It's impossible. Look at the post I quoted. It would take a f'n hour to write it, add pics, and check it, but her previous post is 11 minutes prior. This is some ridiculous troll job, with no clear reason or winner.

I am no troll. Why would you think I would be when I have said nothing but FACTS, huh?

[Senator Clay Davis]

#### me it happened lol.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Springs1

I have things saved in MS Word. I like proving people wrong.

And if you try long enough, some day you might succeed!

You go, girl!

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Springs1

I am no troll. Why would you think I would be when I have said nothing but FACTS, huh?

Subjectively your FACTS are correct!?!?!?!!

[GGG]

Springs1

The servers don't want your money. They want the highest average amount of money from all customers. The goal is to give adequate service to get an average tip from every table. As soon as a table is too demanding you wrote it off as not worth the effort.

Your entire premise on trying to change server behaviour my making them dance for your money is based on the faulty assumption that the server wants your money specificly. They don't, they and the ownership would prefer you don't eat at restaurants.

Red lobster, Applebee's, and Ruth Chris do not constitute fine dining. Ruth Chris is like the McDonald's of steak houses.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Springs1

I have things saved in MS Word. I like proving people wrong.

Yet you never have

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

This even funny anymore. It's just sad and pathetic.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

Oh good lord. She's been summoned again. >.<

My best bump ever.

[Finger Cookin]

Double post

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by 4X4

It's impossible. Look at the post I quoted. It would take a f'n hour to write it, add pics, and check it, but her previous post is 11 minutes prior. This is some ridiculous troll job, with no clear reason or winner.

Just like PIMking, she posts the same things on multiple websites. Contrary to Ian, she is actually trying to keep money in our pockets.

[nik-]

Springs1 has earned three experience bubbles solely by rampaging against tipping.

It really is impressive.

[socktape]

As soon as I saw that Springs1 had posted I knew this was going to be good. I went to the kitchen to get some veggies and ranch. I mentally cut back my tip because I didn't bring enough dip for the amount of veggies I had in my bowl. I then lost some more of my tip because I didn't go back to the fridge to get some more ranch right away but chose to eat what I had first. Service these days... I tell you.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Springs1

HOW is it "outside" their control?

The NUMBER ONE THING, FORGETTING TO PUT IN AN ORDER! Read on:

Ask yourself these questions as a server:

1. WHEN do you put in my order? Do you wait or do you go put it in immediately after taking it? If you are double sat or triple sat, you can still go put in each order into the computer after taking each table’s order. By not doing that can result in a much longer wait and that would be YOUR FAULT.

2. FORGETTING to put in an order. My husband and I have experienced this for REAL that servers ADMITTED to our faces they have FORGOTTEN TO PUT ORDERS IN. All of them were appetizers, bar drinks, and a cup of soup.

3. Did you put in the order CORRECTLY into the computer? Have had many times servers ADMITTED to our faces they did not do that correctly. Have had wrong entrées before due to our server putting in the order wrong. Have had wrong bar drinks too due to the server putting in the order wrong.

4. Did you FORGET ANYTHING I ORDERED such as a SIDE DISH? We have had this happen a number of times as well.

5. Did you DROP anything I ordered? Luckily, we have not had this happen, but I have seen a server once drop some fries from a plate before and I did have a waiter spill some margarita martini when pouring into a martini glass. In other words, it is possible, not likely, but very possible.

6. Did you remember to GET my food? We have had a server do that before. Also, we have had a number of servers forget bar drinks.

7. Did you bring out my food obviously correctly if you bring my food out? Do you realize how many times OUR OWN SERVER brings out DUH mistakes like the side dish is wrong, the entrée is wrong, something obvious is not correct bacon that isn’t covered up isn’t extra, extra crispy when you can clearly notice that it isn’t without touching anything, etc.? Every DUH mistake you bring out is YOUR FAULT I am waiting for what I did order by you wasting my time bringing me the wrong item or wrongly prepared item or forgot something. While we all make mistakes, I would have to say a good 90% of the time, servers NEVER COMPARE THE WRITTEN ORDERS TO THE FOOD, because they are TOO LAZY and DON’T CARE!!

8. Servers DO wait to put in entrée orders when appetizers, side salads, or cups of soup are ordered. THAT *IS* THE GOD’S TRUTH! Sometimes it’s TOO LONG THEY WAIT! If it’s another server, it still doesn’t make it the kitchen staff’s fault I have the wrong side dish for example since that is something that’s obvious. It’s either my server that didn’t put in my order correctly or this other server that didn’t compare the ticket to the food or that this other server did compare the ticket to the food, but just missed it(HIGHLY UNLIKELY, but possible).

9. WHEN do you come to GET MY ORDER? That part is covered in #2 below.

10. WHEN do you DECIDE to LET ME ORDER? That part is covered in #4 below.

11. WHEN do you decide to DELIVER MY FOOD? That part is covered in #1 below.

12. Do you, because they are out of something, decide to assume everyone wants the closest thing so you do the ordering for me? That part is covered in #3 below.

13. WHEN do you decide to check up on WHERE the food is? If the kitchen staff somehow lost the ticket, did you wait 30 minutes and then decide to find out that or did you check after 10-15 minutes to see that our food was getting started on?

1. Once, we had a Red Lobster waitress had our 2 entrées on the tray as well as 2 side salads that were for a couple that wasn’t even there when we ordered. Anyway, instead of bypassing their table to hand us ours first since WE DID ORDER FIRST(common sense would tell you that it takes more time to cook food than it does to fix a side salad anyways even if it wasn’t our server that delivered our food, but it was our waitress that delivered our food), she decided to hand them theirs first off the tray. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE SERVER’S CONTROL TO HAND OUT THINGS OFF THE SAME TRAY IN THE ORDER IN WHICH IT WAS ORDERED IN!!

2. Once, we had a waitress that greeted us which we ordered an appetizer as well as our drinks when greeted. I saw she tucking in chairs at empty tables and pretty much doing everything but coming back to get our entrée order. Well, I found out what happened. She brought out our appetizer and when I asked she said that she wanted to wait to put in our entrée orders. The thing is, that delayed us more by not at least coming to GET our orders. That way, when the appetizer was ready, we wouldn’t have gotten delayed eating our appetizer since we then had to give our entrée orders when we could have given our entrée orders WELL BEFORE THAT and we would have gotten our entrées faster due to that she could have just left to put our entrée orders into the computer after delivering our appetizer instead of taking time to order when our appetizer was sitting in front of us. The point is, SHE delayed our entrées as well as to be able to start eating our appetizer because she could have at least TAKEN our entrée orders and then when our appetizer would have been brought out, could have immediately gone to the computer to put our entrée orders in. What she did was make us wait while our hot appetizer was sitting in front of us, we couldn’t touch it, because we had to order our entrées and could have done that wayyy before that. She also delayed our entrées because we had to spend extra time AFTER our appetizer arrived to give her our entrée orders when we could have done that wayyyy before that.

3. Once, we had a waitress that assumed that because they were out of raspberry topping for a cheesecake slice when we had ordered dessert that she’d bring us strawberry. Turns out, she knew when she put in the order that the computer had it the manager told us. So she did it on PURPOSE to be so lazy and uncaring as to not come to ask if we wanted the next closest thing. We didn’t, we sent it back, so she had MORE WORK. Also, she didn’t even think about what if someone is allergic to strawberries. I just honestly can’t believe someone would do that. If they are out of something, common sense would be to come to see if the next closest thing is ok. Not everyone wants the next closest thing. So it wasn’t like it was just getting the order wrong by accident or by not verifying the written order with what she was bringing or putting in the order wrong by accident, this was on PURPOSE to be LAZY and to ASSUME. I didn’t know at first that she did that. I thought at first she just was that stupid(or truly just messed up(highly doubt it)) to bring us strawberries on top of a cheesecake when we ordered raspberries.

4. Your server delays coming to get your order or delays you ordering due to personal conversation. We have had that before as well. Once, we had a waiter that we didn’t know after waiting 15 mins. for a table on Mardi Gras day ask us BEFORE we ORDERED ANYTHING “How’s y’all’s Mardi Gras” “Go to any parades.” See, I don’t mind chit chat with a stranger, but be considerate to do it AFTER we have our orders into the computer so you don’t take up our time.

We have also had servers not come to get our order due to playing around. Sometimes taking a long time or a longer time has A LOT to do with the server: My husband and I have had 3 TIMES where servers FORGOT to put food orders into the computer. We also have 8 times servers forget to get bar drinks from the bar. Once a waitress forgot to put in a bar drink into the computer. Two of the 3 times it was an appetizer and the servers ADMITTED doing so. The third time was a cup of bisque which is normally served before a meal just like a side salad is. My husband and I also have had delays due to that the servers delayed putting orders into the computer when they COULD have such as deciding to buss a table first or decide instead of a mini-greet(I’ll be right with you all), one waiter I saw decided to take a party of 6 people’s drink/appetizer orders instead of putting in our food orders into the computer. I can understand if they call you over, but if they don’t, you should be putting that order into the computer not delaying our food. The longer you wait to put in orders, the LONGER WE WAIT!! So truly think about that MOST of the time when you wait a LONG TIME for your food or bar drinks even, it could be the server’s fault. 9 times out of 10, your server had *SOMETHING* to do with the delay in most cases! That’s the GOD’S TRUTH!

F*********K Yeaaaaaaaa!

[metallicat]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

Because I find it sad this is the hill she's choosing to die on. Some people support animal rights, some support gay rights...she chooses servers. It's such a stupid and silly thing to out so much time towards. It was funny years ago when she first appeared here, but now it's just old and stale.

[Northendzone]

^ I swear springs1 is the rainman of dining out as she is seemingly able to remember the exact amount of times something happened to her - for example 3 times servers forgot to put in her order, 8 times they forgot to do something else.

who keeps that much detail about dining out!!! they must go out for dinner with a notepad and document everything and then go home and enter it in a database.....

I think she needs to come to grips witht eh fact that sometimes returants will be slow, and there will be mix-ups on your food order - if you can't deal with it, stay at home and cook your own food.

I have never asked for this before, but can she be banned and her IP blocked so she does not come back as springs2.......

I also hope that one day she is outed by an internet detective, and that people go visit her at work and rag on her......

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

^ I swear springs1 is the rainman of dining out as she is seemingly able to remember the exact amount of times something happened to her - for example 3 times servers forgot to put in her order, 8 times they forgot to do something else.

who keeps that much detail about dining out!!! they must go out for dinner with a notepad and document everything and then go home and enter it in a database.....

I think she needs to come to grips witht eh fact that sometimes returants will be slow, and there will be mix-ups on your food order - if you can't deal with it, stay at home and cook your own food.

I have never asked for this before, but can she be banned and her IP blocked so she does not come back as springs2.......

I also hope that one day she is outed by an internet detective, and that people go visit her at work and rag on her......

I think she's on to something.

When I go out to dinner with my girlfriend all I get is a delicious meal and some pleasant conversation.

Springs1 is the stats nut of dining out.
Waitress didn't bring you appetizer plates? -0.4% tip (mark in "offence" book)
Waitress takes your glass away to refill it? -0.7% tip (mark in "offence book)
Waitress doesn't notice that your bacon isn't burnt darker than Sauron's heart? -1.5% tip (mark in "Major offence" book)
Waitress brings you the entire 1 gallon jug of ranch dressing BEFORE you get your meal? +22% tip (Mark restaurant down in "Lifetime regular" book)

See, she gets so much more out of each meal.
Come to think of it, I think I just came up with a great argument for her being a monster. She is deriving so much more pleasure out of a meal, but she's paying the same for the food and probably tipping less than us mooks.

Man does that chick have life figured out.

[OutOfTheCube]

Originally Posted by Springs1

Why also is it when you say "no pickles" or "ONLY lettuce and onions", they still have a pickle on the plate? WHY you servers can't understand that if the customer states they don't want pickles, that means on the plate, because otherwise, they'd specifically state they would have wanted it "ON THE SIDE." Think about it. WHY do I keep having servers bring me some pickles on the plate when I ordered no pickles?

Because only a demon or monster would order something with no pickles.

They are trying to point out YOUR mistake of ordering something with no pickles, hoping you realize it, and put the pickle in it's rightful place on your sandwich or burger. You should give them extra tip for that one.

[Kybosh]

Current and former line cooks, chefs and other food handlers are secretly thinking "good, focus on the servers moowhahahaha".

[Looch City]

It's simple, we kill the servers.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

Springs1 is the stats nut of dining out.

More like a very dedicated yelp critic.