Gaudreau and Monahan contracts need to get done yesterday, you look at the offer sheet compensation and if a team wanted to offer him or Gaudreau 7.5-8.5 for a full length contract, it's only going to cost them 2 1sts and a couple mid rounders and long run it would #### Calgary over to have to match and pay the extra 1-1/5 a year.
I'm glad Treliving is getting the experience, but I hope he gets back to work at his actual job soon. These two players should not go into the free agency period without contracts and expose Calgary to that risk.
Gaudreau isn't eligible to sign an offer sheet
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I think people thinking this could be under 7MM/season are dreaming, but I love to be pleasantly surprised and Treliving has demonstrated excellence in contract negotiations.
Treliving has proven time and time again that he makes dreams come true. I have absolutely no doubt that he will get Monahan for under 7, probably around6.5 In fact, the longer the negotiations go on, the better I feel. It just means he's being ruthless in his negotiating and I for one am damn glad the Flames finally have a GM like that.
I recall something along the lines that offer sheet compensation is based on 5 years term. So if someone offer sheets him for 8.5 for 8 years the compensation would be based on a salary of 13.6 million per year. Someone can please correct the exact term reagarding this clause.
I could be totally wrong but I've never heard of that rule and it wouldn't make much sense. What if a player signed a 2-year offer sheet for $20M? Would it only be considered $4M/year for compensation purposes?
I could be totally wrong but I've never heard of that rule and it wouldn't make much sense. What if a player signed a 2-year offer sheet for $20M? Would it only be considered $4M/year for compensation purposes?
It only comes into effect after 5 years. It is there to prevent poison pill offer sheets.
Question. Is it possible that the Flames simply didn't feel they would have enough long term information on the teams future before this draft coming up to actually really finalize Johnny and Mony's contracts before hand (especially Mony's)?
When you are likely talking long term deals, you have to think about all your key moving pieces. The Flames know what they've committed for their top 3 D men and for how long. On the forward side, far more complicated. Mony and Johnny are due now, Bennett coming up. Had the Flames landed a top 5 draft especially (or even top 3), wouldn't the potential of that player and their long term plans have impact on what they might want to commit numbers wise to a player like Monahan?
This isn't meant to be a a critique of Mony, I'm a huge fan, and see him as key piece for a long time to come. But if the Flames also feel like another key piece for the future may still be acquired in the upcoming draft, they may be looking to see who they get or what they manage to do on draft day before putting ink to paper...........or am I bonkers?
Question. Is it possible that the Flames simply didn't feel they would have enough long term information on the teams future before this draft coming up to actually really finalize Johnny and Mony's contracts before hand (especially Mony's)?
When you are likely talking long term deals, you have to think about all your key moving pieces. The Flames know what they've committed for their top 3 D men and for how long. On the forward side, far more complicated. Mony and Johnny are due now, Bennett coming up. Had the Flames landed a top 5 draft especially (or even top 3), wouldn't the potential of that player and their long term plans have impact on what they might want to commit numbers wise to a player like Monahan?
This isn't meant to be a a critique of Mony, I'm a huge fan, and see him as key piece for a long time to come. But if the Flames also feel like another key piece for the future may still be acquired in the upcoming draft, they may be looking to see who they get or what they manage to do on draft day before putting ink to paper...........or am I bonkers?
Bonkers.
Monahan is already a #1 Centre at 21 and will be a vital part of this team moving forward.
Getting he and Johnny locked up has to be high on the priority list once Tree is back from Russia.
Monahan is already a #1 Centre at 21 and will be a vital part of this team moving forward.
Getting he and Johnny locked up has to be high on the priority list once Tree is back from Russia.
Agreed. Number one centers don't grow on trees, and it's easy to forget how long we waited to grab a talented player like Monahan. Although we may use other pieces should the next two drafts produce an embarrassment of riches I one area (d men for us as an example) and we trade from position of strength to plug holes in our lineup. Burke has gone on record saying as such, and it's a big reason, amongst others, to draft BPA.
I would have preferred that Tre didn't go to Russia and focused his time on his real job instead of a hobby tournament.
Although I must admit, I've followed this year's tournament a lot closer than previous years and it's quasi-entertaining. Finlandia in particular.
This is not just "a hobby." The relationship that NHL GMs have with Hockey Canada or USA Hockey are important to foster and maintain. I have no doubt that Treliving's decision to go to Russia was very much in line and do not interfere with what he believes to be the best interests of the Calgary Flames.
Honestly, the things that people gripe about these days are so petty.
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This is not just "a hobby." The relationship that NHL GMs have with Hockey Canada or USA Hockey are important to foster and maintain. I have no doubt that Treliving's decision to go to Russia was very much in line and do not interfere with what he believes to be the best interests of the Calgary Flames.
Honestly, the things that people gripe about these days are so petty.
Not only this, but the experience he gains from things like this is pretty valuable. He's still very much a "young" GM.
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Not to mention all the networking he gets to do while over there with other GMs, coaches, players, etc. Honestly, there is only good to Treliving going and no negative. What's pressing here in Calgary that he needs to get done right away that he can't do in a week?
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LOL shame on a young GM going overseas and getting experience and seeing the other side of the world while having a chance to see first hand players that might be of service to the Flames.
Hopefully CroFlames boss revokes any future vacation requests so that remains focused on his job and not any outside hobbies.
Having seasons of 22, 31 and 27 goals during his entry-level contract has Monahan in very rare company. Only nine other players scored at least 22 goals in each of their first three seasons in the salary cap era, including first overall picks Sidney Crosby, Alex Ovechkin, John Tavares and Steven Stamkos as well as Jamie Benn, Evgeni Malkin, Jonathan Toews, Thomas Vanek and James Neal.
That some people here actually question whether or not he's a "legit" #1C is mind-bogglingly mind-bottling.
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