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Old 05-18-2016, 08:07 PM   #341
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I am just tired of people LYING to the public. Most issues are VERY MUCH in the server's control. NOT ALL, but MOST ARE!

Sure, sometimes you will have some cooks that don't do their job or drop the food or lose a ticket, etc. The thing is, you check up on where the food isWHERE the food is like 15-20 minutes entrees, 10-15 minutes appetizers. You don't wait no 40 minutes and then find out the kitchen lost the ticket. THAT IS THE SERVER'S FAULT then, because they WAITED THAT LONG. Now, part of the time is not the server's fault if the kitchen lost the ticket, but waiting 40 minutes to find out WHAT HAPPENED *IS*! There's no excuse to not check up on where food or bar drinks are. Twice I waited around a half an hour for a margarita due to servers not checking up on WHERE my drink was. You can't just put in an order and then not check up on it. That's part of being a server is to check up on things. Rather than doodling smiley faces on checks, their time should be BETTER SPENT on CARING about the customer's wait by checking up on where their food is.
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I am just tired of people LYING to the public. Most issues are VERY MUCH in the server's control. NOT ALL, but MOST ARE!

Sure, sometimes you will have some cooks that don't do their job or drop the food or lose a ticket, etc. The thing is, you check up on where the food isWHERE the food is like 15-20 minutes entrees, 10-15 minutes appetizers. You don't wait no 40 minutes and then find out the kitchen lost the ticket. THAT IS THE SERVER'S FAULT then, because they WAITED THAT LONG. Now, part of the time is not the server's fault if the kitchen lost the ticket, but waiting 40 minutes to find out WHAT HAPPENED *IS*! There's no excuse to not check up on where food or bar drinks are. Twice I waited around a half an hour for a margarita due to servers not checking up on WHERE my drink was. You can't just put in an order and then not check up on it. That's part of being a server is to check up on things. Rather than doodling smiley faces on checks, their time should be BETTER SPENT on CARING about the customer's wait by checking up on where their food is.
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Because the people serving at those restaurants are making close to minimum wage even if they get reasonable tips, and most of their clientele are people like you who won't be satisfied regardless of the job they do.
Then WHY have we tipped 25%-30% before or one time last year I eat out by myself, left a $7 tip on a $12 and something cent check?

We left just recently $9 tip on $34 and something cents.

Obviously, I can be satisfied, DUHH!

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The examples you are using are not examples of fine dining.
WELL DUHH! SO WHAT? Doesn't matter where you are, servers mess up and some don't try their best.

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If you are paying above $100 a plate you may have some arguments.
Well I did at BR Prime, because that was 2011, by now it probably is $100 since the cheapest steak was $89.

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Going to Applebee's and complaining about the service is akin to yelling at your dog because he can't speak english.
WHY? They want our money, so WHY would I not complain? They want something, we want something. Why can't it be an *EVEN* trade, huh?

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It entitles you to reasonable or standard service. It does not entitle you to the server getting down on all 4's and going to town on your lady bits.
I don't expect personal stuff like that. It entitles me to the service I want as far as *SERVICE* at a *restaurant* goes.

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It sounds like you got poor service for the standard of the restaurant that you went to. My guess would be that they figured you were a lost cause early and jumped ship to a table that was more likely to play ball.
That doesn't even make any sense.

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Sounds like a misunderstanding that is common when dealing with other humans. You are likely an alien so I forgive you for not understanding.
HOW do you misunderstand sauce and the fruit as a whole, huh? Exact words are exact words, so I don't understand how she would have thought I wanted sauce? Also, since they had both, a GOOD server would have OFFERED me both.

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The expectations for a higher quality of service at more expensive restaurants is reasonable since you will tipping more at the end of the day. A server at denny's get's between $2 and $3 for a meal that you would buy. A server at an expense restaurant might get closer to $25 to $30.
SO WHAT? Doesn't mean anything.

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Have you ever interacted with another human being before? Sure doesn't sound like it.
Of course I have. That's a stupid question.

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Well he did fix it in the end so let's not act like he is the antichrist. Mistakes do happen and its ok that it happens. Its the response that counts.
You don't understand, it was ***********NO FREAKIN MISTAKE *********** YOU IDIOT!

The waiter DID NOT DO AS I DID, **********COMPARE THE DRINK MENU PRICES FROM MY CHECK TO THE DRINK MENU PRICES ON THE CHECK. WE DID and FOUND THE ERROR IDIOT! It's not a mistake. He didn't even check anything and you know it. He didn't check the bill for accuracy. HOW is anything a mistake if you don't even freakin TRY, HUH?

That was NO MISTAKE.

What he should have done is have tried to begin with to find the error since we were at a fine dining restaurant, it should have the servers trained to make sure every price match the bill to the menu. Also, he should have said "I'm SO SORRY about that", NOT blamed it on an OBJECT of all things. Then he should have asked the manager to comp at least a soft drink off the bill for our inconvenience. That's how **I** personally would have handled the issue if it got to my customer. I would have made sure I got a good tip and *****************CARED******************* about my customer's money, NOT been so FREAKIN SELFISH like he was.

He fixed it, so what. Anytime you delay your customer, because of something*********YOU CAUSED*********, you should ask the manager to comp something and if he doesn't, WHY NOT buy my a coke? Seriously, he would have gotten it back and more, but instead, servers are #######s, so they get the ####### tip. When they show CARING in their heart for others and not be so GOD DAMN MF LAZY, they will get a much better tip.
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So, what, is there some double-secret tribunal who arbitrarily decides this sort of thing? Who really pushed this thing about 20%? There's no fundamental reason for a percentage based gratuity expectation to change.

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Then WHY have we tipped 25%-30% before or one time last year I eat out by myself, left a $7 tip on a $12 and something cent check?
Firstly, you have no actual evidence that proves you tip as you say.

Secondly, I won't believe any wild examples you use since its not consistent with your viewpoints on the service industry.

Thirdly, I'm not sure who you are trying to convince, me, or you. I'm surprised you care about what a random idiot like me thinks about how much you tip.

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We left just recently $9 tip on $34 and something cents.
I don't even want to know what the server had to do to get that tip.


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WELL DUHH! SO WHAT? Doesn't matter where you are, servers mess up and some don't try their best.
You know who also don't try their best? Every other subset of employees in the universe. Servers are not unique. Some are good. Some are bad. You should go in expecting a reasonable level of service, not perfection. I also have tipped poorly when I felt I got bad service. But it's rare, and not over petty things.


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WHY? They want our money, so WHY would I not complain? They want something, we want something. Why can't it be an *EVEN* trade, huh?
It should always be an even trade. You tip to the level of service.

The difference is that you require "exceptional" service to deal out 15%. The rest of the world is just looking for pleasantries and a reasonable effort.



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HOW do you misunderstand sauce and the fruit as a whole, huh? Exact words are exact words, so I don't understand how she would have thought I wanted sauce? Also, since they had both, a GOOD server would have OFFERED me both.
You probably had your mouth full of pie while you were talking. Forgive the waitress for trying to understand your verbiage while the crust was spewing from your mouth.



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he waiter DID NOT DO AS I DID, **********COMPARE THE DRINK MENU PRICES FROM MY CHECK TO THE DRINK MENU PRICES ON THE CHECK. WE DID and FOUND THE ERROR IDIOT!
Agreed, he missed it. Hang him!
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Lol I can't take anyone seriously who complains so passionately about something that happened at Outback. Or Red Lobster.
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Firstly, you have no actual evidence that proves you tip as you say.
It's true though.

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Secondly, I won't believe any wild examples you use since its not consistent with your viewpoints on the service industry.
There are no "wild" examples and it is very consistent.


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I don't even want to know what the server had to do to get that tip.
All my condiments brought out *AHEAD* of time without having to ask her to do so. Perfect amount of attentiveness, didn't have to ask for extra napkins. She was willing to write orders down. She didn't walk away when I was speaking as some servers do since I ask for a lot of things. She was just awesome! I forgot to ask for one condiment, so that made me feel like I "owed" her a little extra for doing that. She would have had $10, but a few minor issues I did have I didn't count off for such as no appetizer plates, but the plate that the appetizer was on was so huge and by the time I came back from the bathroom, my husband ate his share, so we ended up not needing any, so I didn't count off for that. Took my glass to refill it when I had food. Normally I don't care for that, but she got the refill really quickly like under a minute. So I didn't count off for that either. All in all, she did EVERY SINGLE THING I wanted. Even my husband agreed with the tip(sometimes he is the one that wants to give less at times and other times I am the one that wants to give less). This is coming off of one of the first visits at that restaurant that the server we had the 1st time around admitted I quote "The food runners don't read the tickets so I didn't put the ranch into the computer" Something like that she said. My jaw almost dropped like WTH? So I appreciate the ones that are WILLING to do the **AMOUNT OF WORK** I give them. I asked for a lot of condiments and modifications to my order.

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You know who also don't try their best? Every other subset of employees in the universe. Servers are not unique. Some are good. Some are bad. You should go in expecting a reasonable level of service, not perfection.
But the servers expect a **PERFECT SCORE TIP OF 20%**, so HOW DO YOU SEE A FREAKIN DIFFERENCE? There is NONE! If they expect a perfect score tip, we expect a perfect dining experience or at least extremely close. So you go to a restaurant with the outlook the glass half full?

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I also have tipped poorly when I felt I got bad service. But it's rare, and not over petty things.
Your opinion of what a petty thing is may not be mine. So that will differ from person to person with that issue.

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The difference is that you require "exceptional" service to deal out 15%.
NO, to tip 25%-30%.

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The rest of the world is just looking for pleasantries and a reasonable effort.
Usually, there's NO REASONABLE EFFORT. We have gotten so many servers that have brought us food and several things missing or obvious things wrong with the food. Obvious errors on the checks, etc. We had a waitress(I know you are going to say IHOP what I expect), but our bill was $18 and something cents once and the waitress billed us for $40 and something cents on our credit card probably rung up the wrong table on our credit card. Reasonable effort would be to pay attention to WHAT AMOUNT you just billed someone if you expect YOUR MONEY as the server to be right, DUH, you have to get the customer's money right. While we did leave a tip, it was $2.50 or something like that, but could have been $5. If you don't care about my money, I don't care as much or maybe not at all about yours. I am talking about server to customer relationship that is.

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You probably had your mouth full of pie while you were talking.
NO, my husband's grandma received a free piece of cheesecake for her birthday with real blueberries(not sauce), so that's why I ordered that for my piece of cheesecake I ordered. I spoke fine. As I said before, I have never been a server(just worked as counter help in a donut shop a long time ago), but I know how to serve. You should as a server *OFFER BOTH OPTIONS* rather than ASSUME the customer means such-n-such even if a customer does like me says "blueberries", I would say "Just to make sure, they have 2 options, blueberry sauce and fresh blueberries." Maybe a customer that isn't detail oriented like I am may order blueberries but may have meant sauce and didn't say it. A GOOD, SMART server OFFERS BOTH. You are just mad that I actually am making sense and you know it.

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Forgive the waitress for trying to understand your verbiage while the crust was spewing from your mouth.
NO, you are just making excuses. I NEVER, *********EVER************** said "sauce" you IDIOT! STOP LYING!

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Agreed, he missed it. Hang him!
When it's your money, you won't be so silly about it. The waiter would have gotten more money on the overcharge as well as the restaurant overcharging us. Also, he should have checked the prices. It's fine dining, so according to you I should have gotten better service. Did I? NOOOOOOOOOOOO! What does that tell you IDIOT?
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You are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WRONG! You have ZERO COMMON SENSE, here's why:

90% of the time it's the SERVER'S FAULT:

1. They can put in the order wrong into the computer or if it's a written ticket they submit, they could have written something down wrong or hard to read.

2. They could have forgotten to put in the order in the first place.

3. Servers can also misunderstand what the customer is saying such as 2 times when I ordered 2 sides of bbq sauce and the stupid idiot servers thought I didn’t want bbq sauce on my ribs when I NEVER ONCE SAID I didn’t and I didn’t say “ON THE SIDE”, I SAID SIDES, which means extra. One of those times I said extra even.

4. Most mistakes with food are visible:

A. Condiments of any kind regardless of who brings out the food can be brought out by the server ahead of time.

B. If someone orders extra crispy bacon with their pancakes, then the bacon looks limp, not stiff, and you can even see some white fat on it, guess what? MY SERVER COULD HAVE SEEN THAT TOO AND TOLD THE COOKS IT WASN'T CORRECT, TO RECOOK IT INSTEAD OF BRINGING IT TO ME WRONG IN THE FIRST PLACE!

C. Any wrong side dishes or entrees are the fault of the server if they bring out the food even if they put in the order right. You can tell the difference between a baked potato and mac n' cheese, yet, a waiter at Logan's Roadhouse was so stupid as to bring me mac n' cheese when I ordered a baked potato. I noticed it within 5 seconds of the food hitting my table. Like DUH a baked potato looks completely different from mac n' cheese.

D. Any MISSING side dishes, appetizers, condiments, or entrees ARE the server's fault if they bring out the food as well. Have had that happen a few times or so. Our servers aren't blind, so they can tell if something is missing or not.

E. I have seen a red steak delivered to someone before at Outback which means let's say the customer ordered their steak well done, that the server could have noticed the color difference as in someone's example “Steak cooked rare instead of well done ? It’s not your server’s fault, they didn’t cook it, it’s the kitchen’s fault.”

F. If something LOOKS burnt such as a piece of bread with the food and the person didn't order it burnt, my server is at fault for serving me that.

G. If my server forgets an item that an entree or appetizer comes with, that's their fault if they brought me my food without the item such as a side dish or ranch.

H. I have ordered at Outback my fries "lightly cooked" "Not overdone and yellow not brown." I have had their fries before cooked the way I like them before many of times before this time I am talking about. This stupid waitress decided to blame the kitchen staff for REALLY DARK BROWN FRIES as if she was blind or something and my husband even told me he could see that they were really dark. My husband may not agree with me on every subject of course, but with that, you could EASILY tell just by LOOKING that those fries were overdone and very dark. She said she put in the order correctly. I am thinking, SO? I wish I could have said "Are you blind?" That was HER FAULT she DECIDED TO SERVE ME THOSE FRIES THAT WEREN'T CORRECT. I noticed the mistake within 3 seconds of my food being placed in front of me.




You can tell in this picture above the bacon is very crispy just by simply LOOKING at it.




You can tell in this picture above the bacon is NOT CRISPY, just by simple LOOKING at the bacon.

While the server didn't "COOK" the bacon, it's obvious to the *SERVER'S* EYES that one batch of bacon is crispy and the other isn't to decide to BRING the food to the customer wrong or not. It's my server's fault if they decide to bring me the bacon that's like in picture 2 if I ordered it crispy that she or he didn't tell the cooks it was wrong and get them to cook the bacon more instead of SERVING it wrong. WHY bring it out only for the food to be sent back?


You can clearly see the fries are overdone in the picture above if the customer ordered them "NOT OVERDONE, lightly cooked."


In this picture above, you can see the fries don't appear overdone and the bacon is NOT CRISPY. If a customer asked for their bacon to be crispy, I would REFUSE to serve it and I would have enough CARING and COMMON SENSE to get that fixed **BEFORE** I brought it to the customer only to have the customer send it back or leave me a bad tip for not caring about their food.

My server's job isn't just to bring out what the kitchen staff gives them, it's also getting the order OBVIOUSLY correct to the table as much as possible in order to get that good tip. As someone said on a blog or forum “They just want to be tipped well and will do pretty much anything reasonable to get your money”, which that IS VERY REASONABLE to think OUR SERVERS ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THEIR TIP TO GET THINGS RIGHT TO HAVE A BETTER TIP!!

Get what I am saying here? MOST of the mistakes happen due to either your server if they bring out the food or another server that doesn't compare the ticket to the food(assuming the order was put in correctly by the original server of course).

You also can notice if someone has wing sauce "On the side" vs. "On the wings" themselves. This isn't rocket science.

Most of the things that are wrong with the food can be caught by the server if they bring out the food, even if they didn't cook it. If it's another server, they can catch obvious errors on the ticket and menu(such as menu states the item comes with bbq sauce and the ticket doesn't say "no bbq sauce") if the ticket was correctly put in by the original server that took the order. Condiments(in bottles or on the side in containers) can always be offered to be brought out ahead of time REGARDLESS of WHO brings out the food to the table.

So most of the time when the food has something wrong with it, chances are, your server or another server could have caught the mistake before it got to you in most instances. I NEVER said ALL, but in most cases, it can be caught BEFORE bringing out the food(unless another server brings out the food with the ticket wrong), because then the original server that took the order is at fault for putting the order in incorrectly into the computer.

There are few rare cases where the food being wrong is the kitchen staff's fault such as raw food(such as raw chicken), slightly undercooked or overcooked food that you'd have to CUT into to know if it was under or overcooked, or anything the server cannot see with their eyes unless they were to TOUCH the food. Things such as a pickle under a bun the server can't notice unless they lift the bun, so unless they put the order in wrong, they wouldn't be at fault, but in general most food mistakes can be caught BEFORE bringing the food to the table.

What I am saying is, MOST mistakes ARE PREVENTABLE by the SERVER if they bring your order to you that they can NOTICE things wrong by comparing those written orders to the plates of food.

Once a waiter at Chili's said "The kitchen forgot" when I had ordered 2 sides of mayo and 1 side of mustard. The thing is, my waiter brought out the food, so NO, HE HE HE HE HE FORGOT, the kitchen staff didn't step out the kitchen to bring me my food and forget obvious missing containers from my plate that aren't covered up by anything. MY WAITER DID THOUGH!!

You walk in one room in your house with a plate of food, but forget the ranch. Even if your mom or significant other plated your food, which you even told her you wanted a side of ranch for your fries, but you bring it to another room. HOW IS THAT THEIR FAULT? It's YOUR FAULT YOU LEFT THE ROOM WITHOUT THE RANCH AND DIDN'T NOTICE IT SINCE IT'S SOMETHING OBVIOUS YOU DON'T HAVE TO *TOUCH* TO NOTICE THE MISTAKE!!

Even if he didn't bring out the food, that waiter could have prevented that type of thing from being forgotten since it needs no cooking to bring it out ahead of time. It is always the person bringing out the food that is at fault for any type of mistake that you don't have to TOUCH the food to notice the mistake, unless of course, the order was put in wrong by the original server that took the order with another server bringing out the food. Of course unless, the kitchen goofs up, making it correctly even if the ticket is wrong, but that's highly unlikely scenario.

I cannot believe you honestly think that the server is not at fault for most food mistakes. WE LIVED THROUGH THE "DUH" MISTAKES, SO WE CAN SEE WITH OUR EYES WHO WAS AT FAULT!!

We had a waiter once admitted he grabbed the wrong entrée from the kitchen. It was just my husband and I. This waiter not only admitted he didn't compare the WRITTEN ORDER with the entrées he was bringing out, but also we saw he had other entrées for another table that he didn't ONCE get his pad of paper out to see WHICH ENTRÉE WENT WITH WHICH TABLE!! So 2 times he could have caught his mistake, but didn't *****TRY HIS BEST AS HE SHOULD HAVE, because that's HIS JOB**!!

He admitted that he grabbed the wrong entrée from the kitchen. He brought my husband fried shrimp w/fries when he ordered crawfish au gratin w/baked potato. Those items look NOTHING A LIKE, but yet THAT WAITER WAS TOO LAZY AND UNCARING TO VERIFY *WHAT* HE WAS BRINGING US!! We still left him 17% BTW, just to let you know since he profusely apologized TWICE and FIXED THE SITUATION IMMEDIATELY just about. We honestly shouldn’t have though, because that really didn't make him LEARN anything. If I had to do it all over again, I would have tipped 13%. It's because since that happened(a number of years ago, maybe like 4), me and my husband have had some terrible experiences. We have had good ones too of course, but the servers need to LEARN that they can't just hand you ANYTHING like McDonald's cashiers do. They are there to EARN a tip, NOT to just hand you anything.

It's very rare that it's not the server's fault. Things like if I order no pickles if you took my order and brought out my food, which there are some pickles under a bun that you'd have to lift it to see it, unless you admitted putting in the order wrong, I will assume it's the kitchen staff that is at fault and probably is.

Things like raw chicken tenders aren't the fault of the server.

A slightly over or undercooked steak if the order was put in correctly is not the server's fault.

Also, some people assume things as well, that end up being wrong.

If another server brings out a wrong side dish or if they are missing items other than condiments, no it's not the server's fault if they put in the order correctly, but it still counts against the tip. It's part of the service.

Why also is it when you say "no pickles" or "ONLY lettuce and onions", they still have a pickle on the plate? WHY you servers can't understand that if the customer states they don't want pickles, that means on the plate, because otherwise, they'd specifically state they would have wanted it "ON THE SIDE." Think about it. WHY do I keep having servers bring me some pickles on the plate when I ordered no pickles? NO SERVERS ARE BLIND OR ILLITERATE that they cannot determine any of the obvious errors that don't have to be touched to notice the mistakes or mistake.

Also, you wouldn't believe the ******OVERCHARGES******** we have had over the years. ANY overcharge, no matter what kind, is the server's fault, because they can READ numbers on a piece of paper called a check. So if the price is wrong, they should have gone to their manager to fix ***********BEFORE****************** they gave the customer their check, NOT AFTER! We have been to restaurants our VERY FIRST TIME and less than an hour, found a wrong price. Idiot, lazy servers that don't know how to serve is what it amounts to.


Utensils, once we have been asked what we want to drink, if there are none, that's the server's fault.

Appetizer plates should be given before or with the appetizer, NOT afterwards.

Any assumptions are within the server's control No one makes a server assume but themselves! That includes bringing the check without asking first if the customers want dessert or anything else.

You are SO WRONG! WHERE'S YOUR PROOF? Here's my **FACTS**, WHERE IS YOURS??
I doubt you could write this in 11 minutes while pounding back shots of ranch. Do you have pre-written arguments saved on your desktop? What's with this schtick?
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What is going on in here? I can't even....

I haven't been around here long...can someone explain to me how the anger BOT get's summoned, and how we put it back?
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Its so bizarre...it cant be real.

Can it?
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Its so bizarre...it cant be real.

Can it?
It's impossible. Look at the post I quoted. It would take a f'n hour to write it, add pics, and check it, but her previous post is 11 minutes prior. This is some ridiculous troll job, with no clear reason or winner.
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It's impossible. Look at the post I quoted. It would take a f'n hour to write it, add pics, and check it, but her previous post is 11 minutes prior. This is some ridiculous troll job, with no clear reason or winner.
Dude, it's Springs1. You can find that exact same post on this forum already, even. She must have entire slices of her arguments already ready to go/paste. The last time she swung through (look at her postcount) she went on this same schtick/tirade. We did some looking around...she does this on nearly every forum she can find with a wordsearch that includes "tipping". She's undebatable (unless you want to waste the time) and generally good for a laugh. Beyond that, the old internet adage applies..."don't feed (or tip) the trolls".
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I doubt you could write this in 11 minutes while pounding back shots of ranch. Do you have pre-written arguments saved on your desktop? What's with this schtick?
The thing is, we've all seen a Springs1 at a restaurant and it's pretty clear early on that they're going to a complete disaster to deal with, so I can understand a server checking out right away.
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She would have had $10, but a few minor issues I did have I didn't count off for such as no appetizer plates
If I was presented with the same issue I would have kindly asked for a few plates. I'd assume the waitress wasn't out to get me.

Issue resolved.

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Took my glass to refill it when I had food. Normally I don't care for that, but she got the refill really quickly like under a minute. So I didn't count off for that either.
I'm certainly relieved that you didn't penalize the waitress for doing her job. Bless you.

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Even my husband agreed with the tip(sometimes he is the one that wants to give less at times and other times I am the one that wants to give less).
All of this time I assume that you were the train wreck and didn't understand how you found another human being willing to tolerate your personality for more than 5 minutes consecutively, let alone a life time.

Who would have thunk that you were actually the voice of reason?

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I asked for a lot of condiments and modifications to my order.
Have you considered that the problem might be that the items you order ALL require ranch? Maybe you should order a meal that doesn't require so many modifications?

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But the servers expect a **PERFECT SCORE TIP OF 20%**, so HOW DO YOU SEE A FREAKIN DIFFERENCE? There is NONE! If they expect a perfect score tip, we expect a perfect dining experience or at least extremely close. So you go to a restaurant with the outlook the glass half full?
I go in treating the waiter as a fellow human being and am friendly. Typically I find if you are a nice human being you are treated nicely. Try it some time.

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Your opinion of what a petty thing is may not be mine.
That was my point. You don't follow societal standards and should therefore expect that your expectations will rarely be achieved. You are the problem here.


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Usually, there's NO REASONABLE EFFORT.
I find most waiters make a reasonable effort. I think it a you problem.

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We had a waitress(I know you are going to say IHOP what I expect), but our bill was $18 and something cents once and the waitress billed us for $40 and something cents on our credit card probably rung up the wrong table on our credit card.
An $18 bill that they were likely to make $2 on, maybe as high as $4 if they hit a perfect score. That person is probably just trying to get through their day without murdering you. You should be thankful you got your slab of bacon.



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NO, my husband's grandma received a free piece of cheesecake for her birthday with real blueberries(not sauce), so that's why I ordered that for my piece of cheesecake I ordered.
I honestly don't care about your cheesecake eating grandma. I'm frankly surprised you thought I would.



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As I said before, I have never been a server
No way.

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(just worked as counter help in a donut shop a long time ago),
Presumably to get free donuts?

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but I know how to serve.
I'd respect you more if you put your money where your mouth is. Try serving for a week and report back your findings.


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NO, you are just making excuses. I NEVER, *********EVER************** said "sauce" you IDIOT! STOP LYING!
You said sauce. 100%. You are lying. Liar.

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When it's your money, you won't be so silly about it.
I typically don't spend my money on ranch and cheese cake, so unfortunately I won't have the opportunity to not be so silly about it.

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so according to you I should have gotten better service. Did I? NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
According to me you should have a higher expectation for service the more you pay. It does not guarantee a certain level of service. You can't read, but then again, we already knew that.

The fact that you didn't get that level of service is your queue to pay less than a standard tip. MORON!!!!11111!!!!
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