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View Poll Results: Do you support the current version of CalgaryNEXT?
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05-17-2016, 11:21 AM
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#1741
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by taco.vidal
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Bah that's nothing but click bait. Zero substance and pure speculation.
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05-17-2016, 11:22 AM
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#1742
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by taco.vidal
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Good logic in that article.
- The Flames have an old building
- The plans for their new building are not yet approved or finalized
- Other cities have new arena's or are in the process of building them
Therefore, Flames might be moving.
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05-17-2016, 11:22 AM
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#1743
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by taco.vidal
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We're still quite a ways from the point where team owners get to this play in the new arena/stadium playbook.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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05-17-2016, 01:38 PM
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#1744
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Victoria, BC
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Anyone with a cell phone can start a website.
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05-17-2016, 01:51 PM
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#1745
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by taco.vidal
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This source seems as credible as the reporters who infiltrated Tortorellas interview.
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05-17-2016, 01:58 PM
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#1746
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Looooooooooooooch
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"Journalism"
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05-17-2016, 02:01 PM
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#1747
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
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That picture of Dr.Phil in the link says it all
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05-18-2016, 12:12 AM
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#1748
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damn onions
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Understandably this will not be popular sentiment on this site, but if the Flames want to move out of Calgary because they can't trick public funds to subsidize private interests, well, all the power to them and I really don't give a ####.
The reality? NHL hockey will return and will be in Calgary because there is a viable business model and community support structure. And yes, somebody will fill the void, and build the damn building. And further, even if I'm wrong and NHL hockey doesn't return? I'm AOK with that. NHL players, teams and the business model in my opinion makes enough money as is. We need to properly prioritize as a society and my vote (again, I know it's likely not popular) is to prioritize other civic improvements.
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05-18-2016, 12:57 AM
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#1749
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
Understandably this will not be popular sentiment on this site, but if the Flames want to move out of Calgary because they can't trick public funds to subsidize private interests, well, all the power to them and I really don't give a ####.
The reality? NHL hockey will return and will be in Calgary because there is a viable business model and community support structure. And yes, somebody will fill the void, and build the damn building. And further, even if I'm wrong and NHL hockey doesn't return? I'm AOK with that. NHL players, teams and the business model in my opinion makes enough money as is. We need to properly prioritize as a society and my vote (again, I know it's likely not popular) is to prioritize other civic improvements.
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Yup. I understand there's negotiating, and a process etc. But the majority owner now resides in London and doesn't pay taxes here. If they want to extort a stadium by threatening relocation, call their bluff and keep several hundred million dollars.
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05-18-2016, 02:03 AM
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#1750
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
Yup. I understand there's negotiating, and a process etc. But the majority owner now resides in London and doesn't pay taxes here.
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His businesses still pay taxes here. His personal income tax never went to the City of Calgary in any case.
It defies all logic, yet it seems that some posters here have decided that Murray Edwards is something between a traitor and the devil for having the criminal audacity to move out of town.
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05-18-2016, 02:14 AM
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#1751
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
His businesses still pay taxes here. His personal income tax never went to the City of Calgary in any case.
It defies all logic, yet it seems that some posters here have decided that Murray Edwards is something between a traitor and the devil for having the criminal audacity to move out of town.
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People move all the time. When people move specifically outlining that they're proving a point to not pay taxes, that's fundamentally different
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05-18-2016, 09:36 AM
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#1752
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
People move all the time. When people move specifically outlining that they're proving a point to not pay taxes, that's fundamentally different
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Has that been done? I don't recall Edwards making any specific comment on this.
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05-18-2016, 09:47 AM
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#1753
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Franchise Player
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Yah I don't think he ever said it. Was just inferred.
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05-18-2016, 09:53 AM
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#1754
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Franchise Player
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't London an awesome city to live in if you are loaded?
Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Edwards loaded?
If I was a gazillionaire, I'd likely live in a place like London.
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05-18-2016, 10:01 AM
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#1755
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Basement Chicken Choker
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: In a land without pants, or war, or want. But mostly we care about the pants.
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
It defies all logic, yet it seems that some posters here have decided that Murray Edwards is something between a traitor and the devil for having the criminal audacity to move out of town.
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I think it's the timing, which highlights the hypocrisy of "I am becoming an expatriate to avoid taxes" and "I'd like hundreds of millions in tax money to help pay for one of my private ventures".
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05-18-2016, 10:05 AM
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#1756
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
People move all the time. When people move specifically outlining that they're proving a point to not pay taxes, that's fundamentally different
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It's positively foolish for anyone to think that the residence of one of the owners of a private company should have any bearing on this discussion, but for the record here's why Edwards moved in his own words:
Canadian energy mogul Murray Edwards explains his move to England
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05-18-2016, 10:09 AM
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#1757
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Threadkiller
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: 51.0544° N, 114.0669° W
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Municipal/Provincial/Federal government pays for cleanup of the site, road re-configuration and upgrade and fieldhouse.
Flames group pays for the remainder.
Can't it be that simple?
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05-18-2016, 10:14 AM
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#1758
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Voted for Kodos
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Originally Posted by ricosuave
Municipal/Provincial/Federal government pays for cleanup of the site, road re-configuration and upgrade and fieldhouse.
Flames group pays for the remainder.
Can't it be that simple?
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Still would require the arena to pay property tax to make sense for the city.
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05-18-2016, 10:16 AM
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#1759
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed
Still would require the arena to pay property tax to make sense for the city.
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You can't make this statement without evaluating a pro forma for said project. It may well work depending on development densities in the surrounding area.
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05-18-2016, 10:26 AM
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#1760
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ricosuave
Municipal/Provincial/Federal government pays for cleanup of the site, road re-configuration and upgrade and fieldhouse.
Flames group pays for the remainder.
Can't it be that simple?
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Maybe. As long as the Flames are willing to wait 15 years or so to meet the City's timeline for cleanup and business revitalization in the location.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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