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Angelino · 05-16-2016, 03:22 PM

Would love to see Treliving work out a trade for Mrazek and sign him long term. Similar tactics used in the Hamilton trade.

Angelino · 05-16-2016, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

I personally picked Reimer because I think he was really good in TO considering the team in front of him. Also, he's relatively young for a starting G, and he's a UFA which means he won't cost us any assets.

Personally, I hope neither Reimer or Ramo are playing in Calgary. I think if we do see either in the Calgary net, then Treliving failed to acquire the goalie he really wanted (i.e. fall back plan).

In my opinion Gillies is a non-factor in the Calgary net and shouldn't be counted on to do anything, hopefully Treliving can get a guy like Mrazek or Andersen who are of the right age range and have promising upsides.

Gaskal · 05-16-2016, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelino

Would love to see Treliving work out a trade for Mrazek and sign him long term. Similar tactics used in the Hamilton trade.

That was also my idea; use the threat of an offersheet rather than submit the offersheet itself.

The compensation for what Mrazek would sign for ($3,652,659-to-$5,478,986 AAV) is a 2017 1st + 3rd. Could offer them our 2nd, Florida's 2nd and our 3rd instead, on the day of the draft (when picks are at their highest value).

FanIn80 · 05-16-2016, 03:34 PM

I think the most expensive acquisitions this offseason would be:

1. Mrazek
2. Elliot
3. Andersen
4. Anyone else.

Edit: Why do I keep forgetting about Andersen?

Erick Estrada · 05-16-2016, 03:40 PM

Bishop would be the guy if I had a choice but I don't see him being available so I picked Reimer as he's in his prime years and I feel the Flames can sign him for less that MAF is making on his current deal.

Angelino · 05-16-2016, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

I think the most expensive acquisitions this offseason would be:

1. Mrazek
2. Elliot
3. Anyone else.

I think Fredrik Andersen's cost would be up there pretty high as well. Perhaps Anaheim wouldn't trade him within the division / conference. San Jose ended up with Martin Jones, so it is not impossible, but probably tricky for Treliving to pull off.

Detroit, being in a different conference, might be willing to deal Mrazek to the West. Treliving definitely has the draft capital to make a move happen. Hoping to see a move at that time.

FanIn80 · 05-16-2016, 03:47 PM

A couple of questions:

Will we be charged a premium on any deals simply because we literally have zero goalies with NHL experience under contract?

Do we wait until after signing Gaudreau and Monahan, so we know how much we have for a G, or do we get the G first so we know how much we have for Gaudreau and Monahan?

dissentowner · 05-16-2016, 04:03 PM

The only reason not to like Reimer is because he played for the Leafs which is not really a good excuse to not want a good player.

Vinny01 · 05-16-2016, 04:15 PM

Here is a question for everybody. Is there a goalie that could potentially be available that you would be willing to trade Gillies for?

Example would be the Ducks decide to keep Andersen for the next 5 years and decide to move Gibson. They want a stud prospect in return so ask for Gillies+2nd+B prospect.

Do you do that to try and get out goalie for now and the future or do you go another route because you believe Gillies will be a superstar in a few years?

Locke · 05-16-2016, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

Here is a question for everybody. Is there a goalie that could potentially be available that you would be willing to trade Gillies for?

Example would be the Ducks decide to keep Andersen for the next 5 years and decide to move Gibson. They want a stud prospect in return so ask for Gillies+2nd+B prospect.

Do you do that to try and get out goalie for now and the future or do you go another route because you believe Gillies will be a superstar in a few years?

Sure. Gillies, while promising, is an unknown quantity.

If a known quantity on a decent contract were to become available and it was him for Gillies straight up that would seem reasonable.

greyshep · 05-16-2016, 04:40 PM

How could you forget Andersen in a poll like this? lol!

Thats my vote.

Flame19,289 · 05-16-2016, 04:57 PM

Trade Ortio+ for Neuvirth.
Sign Jonas Enroth on July 1.

It has a bit of a Buffalo flavor from a few years ago, but I think it's a goalie combo that would be a significant upgrade, while still providing enough cap flexibility to sign the Flames' big-name RFA's to long term deals.

Fan in Exile · 05-16-2016, 05:22 PM

If you were to go after a "known quantity" to provide quality goaltending next season, then it would have to be Bishop, Fleury or Varlamov. Andersen would be next on the list followed closely by Reimer. Even with Andersen, I would not assume he would be as solid on the Flames as with the Ducks. With everyone else you are hoping that potential translates to a solid steady presence with little more evidence that will turn out than with Gillies.

I just don't understand why the Flames would waste assets right now on getting a proven goaltender. I think MAF and Varlamov are too expensive for what they bring and there's no way the acquisition cost is worthwhile for Bishop for one year. I think Reimer would do fine as long as we don't have to commit to a long-term deal and don't go over 5m per season. Two to three years would be ideal. I also think Gillies will be in the NHL soon so I don't see any sense in spending assets on a young goalie based on a belief in how they will turn out.

IgiTang · 05-16-2016, 05:35 PM

Would love to see in Flames silks in order

Murray
Elliot
Bishop
Andersson
Vasilievski

IgiTang · 05-16-2016, 05:35 PM

Nm

jmac98 · 05-16-2016, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dissentowner

The only reason not to like Reimer is because he played for the Leafs which is not really a good excuse to not want a good player.

It's either that or in 6 seasons there the most games he ever played was 37.

Vinny01 · 05-16-2016, 06:16 PM

If Elliot wins a cup is Jake Allen available?

1qqaaz · 05-16-2016, 06:20 PM

Why is Condon on the list, but not Andersen? Pretty sure Andersen won the last CP poll we did for this.

Bishop has too much risk due to his pending UFA status after next season. I went with Reimer since he's free. But Andersen would have had my vote.

Strange Brew · 05-16-2016, 06:22 PM

[QUOTE=Vinny01;5758627]Here is a question for everybody. Is there a goalie that could potentially be available that you would be willing to trade Gillies for?

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Gillies is a great prospect for us. Because of his injury and so few pro games played, his trade value is very low IMO. He is much more valuable to us as a prospect so I think any potential trade scenario is just imaginary right now.

Strange Brew · 05-16-2016, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dissentowner

The only reason not to like Reimer is because he played for the Leafs which is not really a good excuse to not want a good player.

The only reason? Come on now. He is far from a proven NHL starter. Aren't you a little nervous that Babcock and Lamoriello were willing to move on from him?

Maybe he comes cheap because so few teams are looking for goalies but I would be very nervous about committing starter money to him beyond two years.