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Old 05-11-2016, 09:33 AM   #501
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The FAN mentioned Rick Bowness this morning ad maybe someone who may be in the mix that the Flames would obviously be waiting on Tampa's playoffs to conclude...
They have also constantly been beating the Adam Oates drum - in the sense of why haven't we heard more about him being linked to the job, continually bringing his name up, asking questions about him, etc.
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Old 05-11-2016, 09:34 AM   #502
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Meh, Mike Yeo isn't a bad coach. I wouldn't curse the gods were he to be hired hear (I just wouldn't throw a parade either).


Im not a fan of him. Suter and Parise basically revolted. Bringing in their own "skills" coach Oates to team practice. Publicly ripping decisions on who Suter plays with.
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Im not a fan of him. Suter and Parise basically revolted. Bringing in their own "skills" coach Oates to team practice. Publicly ripping decisions on who Suter plays with.
That speaks more to their lack of character than Yeo's coaching.

One thing I know is that the Wild were an elite team while Suter-Brodin and Spurgeon-Scandella were their pairings. Then Suter started publically whining about playing with a left shot partner, forcing Yeo to change the pairings - and the Wild fell apart.
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I find it bizarre that they would talk to Yeo but have (allegedly) zero interest in Boudreau.


Well both are in Russia and Team Canada has a day off. I'm sure Treliving is keeping his options open.
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I find it bizarre that they would talk to Yeo but have (allegedly) zero interest in Boudreau.
I think its pretty common to claim you "are not interested" or you "get your guy you always wanted" when you lose out on someone.

I am sure the flames had interest in Boudreau but when he signed with Minny there is no point in saying so, just move on to the next guy.
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What about Torchetta, he did a great job with the Wild.
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Old 05-11-2016, 10:49 AM   #507
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I think I would rather have Carlyle though as he's at least won a cup and had some real success as an NHL head coach.
Blah, Carlyle is the guy I'm praying doesn't get hired...

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1,254: Margin by which the Leafs were outshot during Carlyle's tenure.

26.3: Percentage of faceoffs the Leafs have taken in the offensive zone over the past two seasons, worst in the NHL.

37.3: Percentage of faceoffs the Leafs have taken in the defensive zone over the past two seasons, worst in the NHL.

26: Leafs' NHL ranking in goals against this season (127).
... and that doesn't even mention the horrific possession stats. Frankly, I think that if Carlyle is the kind of coach they want then they may as well have stuck with Hartley and saved themselves a few doubloons. A.B.C. (Anybody But Carlyle).
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Not a fan of Yeo but that is only because of his meltdown last year or the year before. It was worse than Sutter kicking the garbage can in the hallway after talking to Feaster. He lost the room then and I was surprised Fletcher didn't can him during the off season after that.

But if Torts can get another job after looking like a fool then Yeo can as well. Just hoping it is not with the Flames. Yeo hockey in Minn was boring.
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That speaks more to their lack of character than Yeo's coaching.

One thing I know is that the Wild were an elite team while Suter-Brodin and Spurgeon-Scandella were their pairings. Then Suter started publically whining about playing with a left shot partner, forcing Yeo to change the pairings - and the Wild fell apart.
Ya that's it. Chalk it 100% up to Parise and Suter's lack of character. Are you serious? Parise oozes it. Suter is pretty quiet, but seems tough to say he "lacks character".

This "BYOC" to practice thing. Not ideal move. But why don't you imagine for a second what was going on in that room 1) for Suter to publicly complain like that about his d partner and 2) for Parise, Suter and others to feel it somehow was a good idea to bring Oates to practice.

Rich players road right over him, but why didn't they have respect for Yeo in the first place?

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Old 05-11-2016, 11:09 AM   #510
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Just wanted to say that while I'd be ok with Yeo I don't particularly want him hired, I just won't scream bloody murder if he is. I want someone that comes from somewhere with recent evidence of exceptionalism. That isn't Yeo (and Carlyle/Crawford and the like have pretty much been crap for the last decade so a big "no way in hell" from me on them). I'd rather take an assistant/associate coach from a currently successful franchise or currently successful HC from the AHL/NCAA then settle for a "Meh" option like Yeo or "Blah" option like Carlyle.
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This "BYOC" to practice thing. Not ideal move. But why don't you imagine for a second what was going on in that room 1) for Suter to publicly complain like that about his d partner and 2) for Parise, Suter and others to feel it somehow was a good idea to bring Oates to practice.
I can't "imagine" what goes on that room. What we do know is that the Wild players allegedly wanted more offensive green light. And it led them nowhere. They went from a team that was in the 2nd round two years straight (upsetting the Central division winners BOTH years) to fodder for this year's division winners, which I don't even think were as good as last year's Blues.

I'm not advocating for Yeo but I am of the opinion that the Wild players seem to be in that same no-mans land that our Flames were in during the latter parts of the "Iginla" era. Not like Iginla "lacked" character either, he oozed it like Parise.
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Also pretty meh on Yeo. Wouldn't be disappointed but wouldn't be excited either
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Old 05-11-2016, 11:26 AM   #513
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Treliving needs to make a statement in the hiring of his coach. Hiring either Carlyle or Yeo would not be considered "making a statement". I would rather see a brash, perhaps unconventional, move.

And after he gets his coach he then needs to make a statement on getting a bonafide NHL goalie. If he nails these two areas, he will have done a major part in improving his team!
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Old 05-11-2016, 11:27 AM   #514
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Article on why Yeo failed in Minnesota.

Yeah, going off that article - I can't say I'm overly fond of the idea.

Terrible PP? Yep.
Over reliance on vets? Yep.
Inability to develop offensive talents? Yep.

After reading that, then reading Wild fans reactions to Yeo being dismissed (and Minnesota's performance under Yeo), I'm not overly fond of the idea of him taking over. Hopefully the interview goes poorly.
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Could just be an interview from convenience too. They're both in Russia aren't they? Treliving does strike me as a guy that would look at every possible option before making a decision, not just hiring the first guy he interviews. Wouldn't be surprised if there's no hire until after the draft

I'm not going to read much into anything until a decision is official
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Old 05-11-2016, 11:35 AM   #516
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So Mike Yeo that yelled his way out of the locker room is a better fit than Hartley was. Really Treliving.
I thought he said Hartley could only take the Flames this far. Huh and A mediocre Yeo is going to take you the rest of the way.
Come on Brad this dud is certainly not the answer.
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Sounds like we have reached a consensus:

Just say No to the Yeo.
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I hope they don't hire Yeo, but I'm one who believes you seriously look at every available option.

It helps you refine what you want and are truly looking for.
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Ya that's it. Chalk it 100% up to Parise and Suter's lack of character. Are you serious? Parise oozes it. Suter is pretty quiet, but seems tough to say he "lacks character".

This "BYOC" to practice thing. Not ideal move. But why don't you imagine for a second what was going on in that room 1) for Suter to publicly complain like that about his d partner and 2) for Parise, Suter and others to feel it somehow was a good idea to bring Oates to practice.

Rich players road right over him, but why didn't they have respect for Yeo in the first place?
I'm with GranteedEV on this one. They are a couple of entitled prima donnas. Chose to take their talents to Minnesota on those mega-deals and have expected to be treated like royalty ever since.

That said there is nothing appealing about Yeo. This will be the third team he's interviewed with already this off-season. Recycle bin hire, who accomplished nothing. What's the point?
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I think this situation is truly BT first and biggest fumble since taking over the GM spot.

Sure, the Flames DR may not have been the happiest with Hartley, but they knew him. They knew what to expect and the players knew how they were going to be handled.

The Optics of firing Hartley appears to be that of, BT had a guy in mind, now that coach is gone, and now BT doesn't have a chair now that the music has stopped.

I will be very disappointed if BT brings in someone who is similar to Hartley, but has a much worse track record. And sadly, all signs are pointing to this as being the case and the eventual outcome.

I guess the 3 headed goalie monster was his true first, by his own admission, so this situation is #2.

Hamilton move aside, how many poor moves will BT be allowed to make before people start considering him a problem?

I havnt lost faith in BT yet, but this clear lack of direction has me worried that it is going to lead to more knee jerk reaction in the future to cover for his mistakes.
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