2016 NHL Draft

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by yourbestfriend

I completely agree with you. We would have to offer something pretty over the top for cbj to trade away that pick.

Nylander (he will realistically be available at #6)
Jankowski
Andersson
Max Jones (#35 based on craigs list)
Sam Steel (#58 based on craigs list, not sure where the florida pick is gonna be at)

for
Puljujarvi

Flames management would have to be hella high on puljujarvi to offer that kinda package. I personally would not

I would do that. Puljujarvi is exactly the type of player this team needs and odds are he will be the best of all the players involved in the trade. I don't think CBJ does this because they already have more than enough quantity throughout their organization. The most valuable pieces coming their way are Jankowski and Andersson. For CBJ to bite, I think they have to believe Jankowski has legitimate top 6 potential and Andersson has top 4 potential. Not just potential, but a reasonable chance of realizing that potential considering Puljujarvi is probably 90% assured of being a quality top 6 player, if not more.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

We still have no idea what kind of pro Janko will turn into. Andersson looks like a great prospect. And the 6th pick along with two 2nd rounders?

Columbus may ask for that but I wouldn't do it.

You have to give to get though. The 2nds are insignificant in a trade like this, they barely move the dial for CBJ IMO. We might not know what Janko will become but I would bet money he won't be as good as Puljujarvi. If Puljuarvi can become a permanent fixture in our top 6, this would be such a win for Calgary considering the current state of the top three D in Calgary and our projected top two centers.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

We still have no idea what kind of pro Janko will turn into. Andersson looks like a great prospect. And the 6th pick along with two 2nd rounders?

Columbus may ask for that but I wouldn't do it.

We have no idea what type of pro Pulhardtospell would be either. Good lord, the hype has gotten out of control. Now we're ready to sell off five assets for one guy that may turn into a super star, may turn into nothing, or may likely turn into Olli Jokenin. Way too much risk to assume.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

You have to give to get though. The 2nds are insignificant in a trade like this, they barely move the dial for CBJ IMO. We might not know what Janko will become but I would bet money he won't be as good as Puljujarvi. If Puljuarvi can become a permanent fixture in our top 6, this would be such a win for Calgary considering the current state of the top three D in Calgary and our projected top two centers.

Last year the Flames 2nds netted us Kylington and Andersson, two potential top 4 d-men. If 2nd round picks are insignificant to Columbus that's fine, but I love having a bunch of them and will gladly keep them to see what the Flames can do with them this year. I think they definitely hold some good value.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Kekelainen as a former Asst. GM who used to run the draft for STL would very much value 2nd rounders. They wouldn't be throw ins at all. Secondary pieces but not insignificant.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Kekelainen as a former Asst. GM who used to run the draft for STL would very much value 2nd rounders. They wouldn't be throw ins at all. Secondary pieces but not insignificant.

For 3rd overall?

I think four or five small peices for one big one is not realistic in a trade like this. I would imagine CBJ would be looking for actual, proven NHL talent in a trade down scenario. They aren't giving up one high potential player for four with a much lesser chance, and a lower ceiling. Pretty much the definition of quantity for quality.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

For 3rd overall?

I think four or five small peices for one big one is not realistic in a trade like this. I would imagine CBJ would be looking for actual, proven NHL talent in a trade down scenario. They aren't giving up one high potential player for four with a much lesser chance, and a lower ceiling. Pretty much the definition of quantity for quality.

So the cost is Bennett. Do you do it?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

For 3rd overall?

I think four or five small peices for one big one is not realistic in a trade like this. I would imagine CBJ would be looking for actual, proven NHL talent in a trade down scenario. They aren't giving up one high potential player for four with a much lesser chance, and a lower ceiling. Pretty much the definition of quantity for quality.

So what about #6 plus our 2nd plus Backlund? Gives them a good two way C just hitting his prime plus they still pick in the top 10 and they get a high 2nd.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by New Era

So the cost is Bennett. Do you do it?

Never.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

So what about #6 plus our 2nd plus Backlund? Gives them a good two way C just hitting his prime plus they still pick in the top 10 and they get a high 2nd.

This makes sense to me. I was going to suggest something like this. I'd roll the dice on that one.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Never.

that certainly makes more sense for CBJ but I think the Flames still add a little.

backlund+andersson/hickey/kylington+6 OA for 3rd OA?

edit: meant to quote your previous post

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

that certainly makes more sense for CBJ but I think the Flames still add a little.

backlund+andersson/hickey/kylington+6 OA for 3rd OA?

edit: meant to quote your previous post

Done.

[Five-hole]

Originally Posted by New Era

So the cost is Bennett. Do you do it?

To move up? Hell no. If Bennett is involved we're talking outright acquiring the pick. We'd have to add, though. Bennett + Backlund for 3OA. Don't think Tre would do that. Sets us back in the timeline. That's a trade that makes his successor look good, but he gets aced before it pays off IMO.

[Roof-Daddy]

Jeez. Somebody tell me why Puljujarvi is so damn good that not only would we have to trade Bennett for him, but add Backlund as well?

Maybe I'm out to lunch, but I don't trade Bennett straight up for Puljujarvi.

Then again, maybe I'm not.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Jeez. Somebody tell me why Puljujarvi is so damn good that not only would we have to trade Bennett for him, but add Backlund as well?

Maybe I'm out to lunch, but I don't trade Bennett straight up for Puljujarvi.

Then again, maybe I'm not.

Yes, but Puljujarvi could be great. Maybe as good as Bennett!

[Mass_nerder]

/Bennett is Bennett, but the mystery Puljujarvi could be anything, he could even be a Bennett!

[Fire of the Phoenix]

I would say Puljujarvi's floor is what we saw from Bennett last season. Who knows who will be better in the future but right now they are pretty close IMO.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

I would say Puljujarvi's floor is what we saw from Bennett last season. Who knows who will be better in the future but right now they are pretty close IMO.

Not that I would trade either for the #3 pick but I would move Monahan before Bennett.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Yeah there's no way we deal Bennett or Monahan. That's why I was trying to construct an attractive package of prospects/picks that might get it done.

[Monahan For Mayor]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

I would say Puljujarvi's floor is what we saw from Bennett last season. Who knows who will be better in the future but right now they are pretty close IMO.

That's also Bennetts floor. Bennett plays C tho. Bennett has more value the Puljujarvi, IMO.