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Old 05-06-2016, 12:08 PM   #2201
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They were? If so, that's insanely petty, kind of like this.
I dont see it as petty.

If I want to take my kid to a hockey game I have to pay for it. I cant even deduct it from my taxes if my company pays for the whole thing because its a personal expense.

Why do the taxpayers pay for his personal expenses? He gets paid a salary, he has his own money to pay for personal expenses.
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I dont see it as petty.

If I want to take my kid to a hockey game I have to pay for it. I cant even deduct it from my taxes if my company pays for the whole thing because its a personal expense.

Why do the taxpayers pay for his personal expenses? He gets paid a salary, he has his own money to pay for personal expenses.
If every PM has done it like that, and it's not breaking any rules, it's kind of hard to judge JT for it. It sounds like what some people want is for some of the perks of being PM to be removed. That's fine, but you can't get mad at JT for taking advantage of them as they currently exist.
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If every PM has done it like that, and it's not breaking any rules, it's kind of hard to judge JT for it. It sounds like what some people want is for some of the perks of being PM to be removed. That's fine, but you can't get mad at JT for taking advantage of them as they currently exist.
And thats totally fair. I was using the Harper example.

At the same time though its pretty silly bringing your entire extended family with you on every trip. Thats ridiculous. Its like Thanksgiving Dinner every day.

Look at all of the other politicians that travel like that.
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Old 05-06-2016, 01:07 PM   #2204
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We elected a politician and got an entitled King instead.

No shocker considering his old man liked having a big entourage.
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We elected a politician and got an entitled King instead.

No shocker considering his old man liked having a big entourage.
Its just....its embarrassing, you see all the other heads of state roll up, Putin comes in on a bear and here comes Little Justin getting dropped off by his mom.
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Its just....its embarrassing, you see all the other heads of state roll up, Putin comes in on a bear and here comes Little Justin getting dropped off by his mom.
Justin arriving on a moose, can't see that looking right.
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Seems like they got a pretty good deal. 44 people to Washington for 3 days at a cost of under $600 per person is not that bad.
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Meh. He gets a pretty crappy salary considering he is running the country so I personally could care less if he takes his kids to the hockey game on taxpayer expense.

As long as he does a decent job politically and doesn't go crazy with his expenses I don't see the big deal.
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Good ol' Tories reminding Canadians why they wanted to see the back of them...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...service=mobile
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It's a race to have the anthem changed to be gender neutral before he dies?
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Seems like the issue from the liberals has more to do with Mauril Belanger's legacy as a sitting MP than the anthem itself.
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It's a race to have the anthem changed to be gender neutral before he dies?
It's a little ridiculous but the Conservative rebuttals are classic right-wing slippery-slope crap.

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“Without making any light of it, maybe the botanists will be in an uproar about the shape of the maple leaf on our flag and demand it to be changed. Or some may be upset that the almighty beaver will not stop chopping down trees, so the National Symbol of Canada Act must be amended to swap out a beaver for an animal far less destructive.”
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OMG who the hell cares? People want to change it? Fine. Done. Do we seriously have to drag this out for months and waste money on it? Ugh. More important things for government to be doing.
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I'm no CPC supporter, but I agree with them here.
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OMG who the hell cares? People want to change it? Fine. Done. Do we seriously have to drag this out for months and waste money on it? Ugh. More important things for government to be doing.
How about we just leave it alone if "who the hell cares".
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I'm no CPC supporter, but I agree with them here.
Appeal to tradition, the other equally illogical, slippery-slope reasoning, or something else? I honestly couldn't give a crap about the anthem, but this is kind of a political layup.
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Appeal to tradition, the other equally illogical, slippery-slope reasoning, or something else? I honestly couldn't give a crap about the anthem, but this is kind of a political layup.
For me its the tradition. Would the song be the same today? Obviously not. But let's not pretend we need a Skrillex EDM version of the anthem because we hold different opinions today either. Like you, I don't really care about the anthem and have a hard time thinking that many people do; its not hurting anything so just leave it alone.
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If they left the national anthem alone Canadians would still be singing God Save the Queen.
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How about we just leave it alone if "who the hell cares".
Because they are trying to make it more inclusive. It seams like a no-brainer to me. Now if yo want to get controversial, suggest taking God out of it.
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