[News] Flames to pick 6th in 2016 draft

[Erratik]

Originally Posted by JJ1532

But what people seem to overlook is, why would any team trade up? All well and good us wanting to move down, but I see nobody who would want to give up extra assets for a similar player that they could get with the pick they currently hold.

By all accounts, you can get a similar player at 6 that you can get at 10-14. So why would Boston give up assets to move up and grab Nylander/a defenceman when they could stay where they are and probably grab a player like them anyway?

The only hope of trading down relied on one team getting a real hard on for 1 player that could go 6th(Nylander, Chychrun etc). I don't see that happening. I think we are staying at 6 and if we are doing that, we should take BPA, not reach for a guy we think might be a better fit. This isn't the NFL.

I don't know how likely it is or not, but I could see Boston being in love with one particular player they know won't be there at 14. You never know how different teams value certain players. They could feel that one defenseman is in a class by himself, even if most scouts don't see it that way.

Again, not saying it's likely, just that I could see it happening.

[dying4acup]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Flames said the ledge was at 6 when they had the 5th pick.

They never had the 5th pick

[AC]

Originally Posted by dying4acup

They never had the 5th pick

Then you could say Treliving spoke about a 2nd ledge at 6 when the Flames could potentially pick 7th or 8th.

[goodyear]

I don't remember much of the lead up to the 2013 draft, particularly who the Flames liked at #6. But I definitely liked the outcome.

Hopefully, the same thing can happen again. I want to see whoever they take at #6 pull off what Monahan did 3 years ago.

[Reggie Dunlop]

All I want to say is that the entire future of the franchise and the viability of its continued existence rests vicariously on this number 6 pick. It is imperative that Brad Treliving chooses wisely, for it will not only impact the construction of a new arena but perhaps sets in motion the revitalization of the Alberta economy.

[d_phaneuf]

has anyone seen a list of where this years prospects would rank in terms of the last few years? based on how they project pre-draft

only comparable mentioned so far has been Matthews right around Eichel

but I wonder for example where Dubois/Tkachuk etc. would go last year or the year before

[Itse]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Brown didn't come from nowhere?

Let's look at cra12's list:

http://thehockeywriters.com/2016-nhl...minary-top-60/

Also of note: Tkachuk at #4, on a different team and with different linemates. That I think should do a lot to put the concerns about him being a product of his linemates to rest.

[MarkGio]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

If the Oilers can't make a deal for a defenseman and the Stars make it into the Semi-Finals would you offer up both picks to the Oilers for the 4th pick?

Nope. That late first could be used to acquire a goalie. If you can't get into the top 3, then there's no point in moving up IMO.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Trade Down, grab McLeod, grab extra bullets to trade for a #1 goalie or a top end RW, call it a day. I have an unshakable faith that Mike McLeod is getting over looked big time.

Size? Check. 6'2 187lbs. Same size as Monny in his draft year.
Speed? I read a lot of reports saying he is MacKinnon fast or even read a couple guys say he is right there with McDavid.

Does he need time to develop? absolutely. And I have no issues with that.

Give me the right shot player with the great foundation of size and speed and IQ and let the rest develop. At this point I'd take him over Nylander but that can change.

I haven't been as high on a Canadian kid since Bennett/Ekblad.

And if we trade down and McLeod is picked just before our pick, what then?

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Chingas

I only have youtube to judge from but in most highlights Brown appears to have/take lots of time to get his shot off. I have concerns over his ability to make a play/get a shot off with more pressure from NHL quality defensemen? He appears to have a good shot, but still looks a little gangly and not really highly skilled with the puck from what I have been able to see.

Am I out to lunch?

He appears to shovel the puck toward the net rather than shoot it. That's my concern about him, but I'll admit I haven't seen much of him.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Nope. That late first could be used to acquire a goalie. If you can't get into the top 3, then there's no point in moving up IMO.

I think drafting one of those power forward wingers that will be there at 4-5 is worth it. I really want to see Tkachuk and Bennett together though as that line (with Porier or Ferland) could cause fits for opposing teams. I hope that one of Tkachuk or Dubois falls to 6 but am starting to doubt that Van or EDM like a Dman enough to take one in the top 5

[Five-hole]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Trade Down, grab McLeod, grab extra bullets to trade for a #1 goalie or a top end RW, call it a day. I have an unshakable faith that Mike McLeod is getting over looked big time.

Size? Check. 6'2 187lbs. Same size as Monny in his draft year.
Speed? I read a lot of reports saying he is MacKinnon fast or even read a couple guys say he is right there with McDavid.

Does he need time to develop? absolutely. And I have no issues with that.

Give me the right shot player with the great foundation of size and speed and IQ and let the rest develop. At this point I'd take him over Nylander but that can change.

I haven't been as high on a Canadian kid since Bennett/Ekblad.

That's very productive for discussion. "I simply will not change my mind, despite the fact that my view is wildly out of line with basically every professional scout or scouting service out there."

Are you surprised that people are jumping all over you?

It would be a massive shock if we (or anyone) took McLeod at 6. Like Jankowski x 1000.

Only time will tell, but if McLeod becomes one of the 10 best players from this draft I'll donate $100 to CP.

[bax]

Would people be into trading the pick for Murray if that option was available?

[Erratik]

Originally Posted by bax

Would people be into trading the pick for Murray if that option was available?

6th overall for Murray? No thanks. I would only consider it for an elite proven goalie, and Murray just isn't on that level at this point.

[oldschoolcalgary]

well, brown went from 5th on CR12's list in July 2015 to 18th by March 2016...

http://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-mock-draft-march-madness-edition/

not sure why people are using cr12 as evidence of Brown being worthy of a 6 spot when the very source of that initial ranking dropped him down 13 spots in the span of 8 months

the guy has potential...but is he worth picking a that slot?

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Five-hole

That's very productive for discussion. "I simply will not change my mind, despite the fact that my view is wildly out of line with basically every professional scout or scouting service out there."

Are you surprised that people are jumping all over you?

It would be a massive shock if we (or anyone) took McLeod at 6. Like Jankowski x 1000.

Only time will tell, but if McLeod becomes one of the 10 best players from this draft I'll donate $100 to CP.

1. It's not "people" it's one guy.

2. my view is not "wildly" out of line. It's a small stretch. Not far out of line despite the player I like has dropped 5 -ish spots on a lot of lists because of his ho-hum performance at the U-18's and the meteoric rise of a couple others due to their good performances. Doesn't that tell you that the people who get paid to watch and evaluate these players think that the grouping after 5 is really tight and it can go one way or the other? And, they have quantified as such in their recent reports. One said " McLeod didn't do anything to drop, it's just that other players had such great performances at the U-18's they jumped ahead in our rankings" Or are we going to sit here and proclaim that the rankings are finalized, no more room for players to rise or fall in the rankings.

But you're right. I shouldn't have a discussion because I'm inflexible in my belief. And I'm not going to change my mind so I guess I'll just have to watch everyone else talk about their favorites.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

not sure why people are using cr12 as evidence of Brown being worthy of a 6 spot

Because the point is that over a long span of time, different sources have had Brown in the top 5.

This is much more useful to determine risers/fallers than focussing solely on midseason rankings.

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by bax

Would people be into trading the pick for Murray if that option was available?

If we get Dallas' first I would

I would trade 35 for Murray. Don't think Pens do that though.

[CanucksWorstNightmare]

Sounds like Ryan Strome may be the next one to ask for a trade. 6'1 199LB Right shot that just seems to have been in dog house all year.Would you trade 6th overall for him he is 22 years old and would definitely fit in with the age of our core. Very talented player!!!Thoughts???

Ryan Strome will be a healthy scratch on Tuesday in Game 3 against Tampa Bay.
"I honestly don't really have much to say," Strome said. "I try to be a good a team guy and I don't want to draw any negative attention to myself. It's a big opportunity for us here tonight and I'm sure the guys that are playing will do the job." Strome was scratched for Games 5 and 6 in the opening round against Florida after he had a goal and assist in the first four contests. He had two assists in Game 1 versus Tampa Bay in Round 2.

[RoughRiderRowdy]

Originally Posted by CanucksWorstNightmare

Sounds like Ryan Strome may be the next one to ask for a trade. 6'1 199LB Right shot that just seems to have been in dog house all year.Would you trade 6th overall for him he is 22 years old and would definitely fit in with the age of our core. Very talented player!!!Thoughts???

Ryan Strome will be a healthy scratch on Tuesday in Game 3 against Tampa Bay.
"I honestly don't really have much to say," Strome said. "I try to be a good a team guy and I don't want to draw any negative attention to myself. It's a big opportunity for us here tonight and I'm sure the guys that are playing will do the job." Strome was scratched for Games 5 and 6 in the opening round against Florida after he had a goal and assist in the first four contests. He had two assists in Game 1 versus Tampa Bay in Round 2.

I make this trade in a heartbeat. The reality of the matter is, we are not going to be a contending team for another 2-3 years. We will need to have some of our 2nd round+ prospects emerge as important players if we want to make the playoffs. A La Chicago and tampa