Why can't Boyle confront him? Boyle looks bad for not handling better and swearing, but that's how he felt. He's not a lawyer. He's a player.
He's a public figure, that's why. The reason he makes millions of dollars, and isn't working as a construction worker is because he's a public figure. By your reasoning, it's cool if a politician yells and swears on camera at any political reporter who writes something he doesn't like.
Rachel Notley to Rick Bell in a scrum: "Get this piece of s*** out of my way. I don't need to talk to a f***ing loser like him."
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It's funny....those defending Brooks are those with some connection to the media.
I'm not defending Brooks, though as someone who used to work in the media I'm more understanding of the fact that he has a job to do. And in a market as competitive as New York, he would have been fired long ago if the people he worked for didn't think he was doing a good job.
The media are part of the whole pro sports business. They're in partnership with the athletes and team owners. It's unprofessional to yell and swear at your business partners. Some NHLers are complete d-bags. Does that mean it would be okay for reporters to yell and swear at them in a locker room in a post-game scrum?
Eric Duhatschek in locker room: "Seguin, you arrogant piece of s***. Put down that hair gel and get over here and answer my god**** questions!"
I mean, people swear on the job all the time, right? Why should we hold journalists to a higher standard than construction workers?
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I don't think Rachel Notley and Dan Boyle is a great comparison. One is responsible for impacting the lives of everyone in the province and one just plays hockey. Public figures are not equal. Im not really concerned about Dan Boyles judgement or composure. Maybe he didn't handle it in the best way he could have but big deal, move on.
Brooks is a real life troll. Thats his approach to journalism. It his schtick. Some like it, some dont. I find him mildy entertaining once in a while but usually not. If I had to deal with him on a daily basis, I would probably be sick of him and hate him. He even has that look of being an arse and an unlikeable guy.
I think Boyle was unprofessional in how he handled his gripes with Brooks. He looks childish. I don't care what your profession is, a hockey player, lawyer, garbage truck driver, doctor, teacher, janitor, IT guy, groundskeeper, etc. etc. That isn't any way to behave. He certainly isn't setting a good example for anybody. He is a professional athlete and and professional athletes have young kids following everything they say and do. The more people like Boyle react in the way he did, the more poor examples are out there for our young kids who are trying to become athletes themselves.
Don't give me the crap that he didn't think it was being recorded either. In this day an age, you're only a couple seconds away from being recorded, especially when you're surrounded by media.
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I am on Boyle's side here. Brooks has always been a tabloid style journalist and looking for petty fights. He seems to feed off this stuff. I find he is much worse than Francis.
Francis is far more tame and professional compared to Brooks.
Here's Brooks speaking about his relationship with Torts, lol. Brooks is pretty slimy if you ask me. He asks all kinds of rhetorical questions throughout the interview - 'can Torts turn it around in Vancouver? I don't know.' But then he'll turn around and throw people under the bus on paper.
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Brooks is selling copy (and apparently good at it). Boyle failed by getting hooked.
Leaving aside the issue that Brooks was 100% correct in stating that letting Stralman walk for Boyle was a huge mistake.
Such a pointless industry where most "journalists" find themselves to be way more important than they really are.
The good ones don't find themselves to be that way, and are certainly needed. Bob McKenzie, Elliott Friedman, Erik Duhatchek and Darren Hayes in Calgary. Thore guys aren't pointless and are needed.
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He's a public figure, that's why. The reason he makes millions of dollars, and isn't working as a construction worker is because he's a public figure. By your reasoning, it's cool if a politician yells and swears on camera at any political reporter who writes something he doesn't like.
Rachel Notley to Rick Bell in a scrum: "Get this piece of s*** out of my way. I don't need to talk to a f***ing loser like him."
I'm not defending Brooks, though as someone who used to work in the media I'm more understanding of the fact that he has a job to do. And in a market as competitive as New York, he would have been fired long ago if the people he worked for didn't think he was doing a good job.
The media are part of the whole pro sports business. They're in partnership with the athletes and team owners. It's unprofessional to yell and swear at your business partners. Some NHLers are complete d-bags. Does that mean it would be okay for reporters to yell and swear at them in a locker room in a post-game scrum?
Eric Duhatschek in locker room: "Seguin, you arrogant piece of s***. Put down that hair gel and get over here and answer my god**** questions!"
I mean, people swear on the job all the time, right? Why should we hold journalists to a higher standard than construction workers?
What the? Politicians represent a lot of people who pay their salary. Boyle reps what....himself and organization? Don't buy a ticket if you don't like what he stands for. Terrible comparison. I can't believe I am spending time typing to point out why.
And now you are talking about media people swearing for some reason.
I obviously poked a nerve.
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If it's so "pointless" why are so many links to articles about the Flames and NHL posted and discussed here daily, not to mention countless tweets by some of the same beat reporters? I'm an avid consumer of sports journalism to stay abreast of game scores and goings-on with my team, for trade deadline and draft coverage and things happening elsewhere in the league. Boards are good for that too, but there'd be a whole lot less to talk about without this pointless industry.
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The part I disagree with is trying to get Brooks to leave. If you want to get angry at him and yell at him - go nuts, but asking him to leave is weak.
If Boyle is ticked off at Brooks - sure go nuts and confront him. That's one of things these beat reporters say is important in their jobs vs bloggers in that they have to go in and see these guys every day. I'd do it where there are no cameras around and I'd assume these types of things happen a bunch with no cameras and we never see them.
I think Boyle was unprofessional in how he handled his gripes with Brooks. He looks childish. I don't care what your profession is, a hockey player, lawyer, garbage truck driver, doctor, teacher, janitor, IT guy, groundskeeper, etc. etc. That isn't any way to behave. He certainly isn't setting a good example for anybody. He is a professional athlete and and professional athletes have young kids following everything they say and do. The more people like Boyle react in the way he did, the more poor examples are out there for our young kids who are trying to become athletes themselves.
Don't give me the crap that he didn't think it was being recorded either. In this day an age, you're only a couple seconds away from being recorded, especially when you're surrounded by media.
Of course he knew he was being recorded. He also knows he's through in the NHL, he knows none of his teammates or opponents have any respect for Larry Brooks, and he told the guy off. Boyle had had enough of Larry's poop, and told him as much.
It's going to have zero ramifications for either long term, and it probably felt awesome. Good for Dan Boyle, congratulations on a great career.
What the? Politicians represent a lot of people who pay their salary. Boyle reps what....himself and organization? Don't buy a ticket if you don't like what he stands for.
Terrible comparison. I can't believe I am spending time typing to point out why.
And now you are talking about media people swearing for some reason.
Media and pro athletes are business partners. No athletes and there's no content for the sports media to report on. No media and the public exposure and monetary value of sport is tiny. That's why the NHL and media organizations have rules in place around media access to athletes.
You seem to be saying it's okay if one party in that business partnership acts unprofessionally and swears at the other in public. So then why wouldn't it be okay for a journalist to do the same when an athlete is really getting on his nerves? Why are the standards of behaviour higher for one of the partners in the arrangement than the other?
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