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Old 04-26-2016, 06:03 PM   #21
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The bolded part is why I made the joke about you having a future in journalism.

Everybody makes mistakes. You just tend to make a lot more than the next guy. If you're going to be a real journalist, you can't afford to make mistakes like that. Just saying.
I actually totally agree with you. I consider myself to be a good writer, but I am prone to make the odd comprehension mistake. Of course, I'm still studying, and I have a long way to go.

You know, thanks for your honesty, I really value it. I do try to contribute to discussion, I just sometimes get caught up.

To segue back on topic here, I think Brooks needs to treat the Rangers' personnel with more respect. Tortorella hated him when he was here, and now so does Boyle. I don't think it's necessarily the Rangers' problem, as much as it is the Post's. They run too much like a tabloid when they should be focusing more on the facts.
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Old 04-26-2016, 06:10 PM   #22
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"Brett or whatever the **** his name is, where's he at" that's my favourite part.
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Old 04-26-2016, 06:21 PM   #23
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Regardless of how dumb brooks is I don't think Boyle handled it well .

Could have done without the profanities. A simple "happy to do this interview for the rest of the group but only if he exits, otherwise sorry folks"
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Old 04-26-2016, 06:26 PM   #24
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Besides the typical Brooks approach, is there some recent history here that put Boyle over the edge? Can someone fill me in please?

Even without knowing the lead up, I am in Boyles camp on this one.
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Besides the typical Brooks approach, is there some recent history here that put Boyle over the edge? Can someone fill me in please?

Even without knowing the lead up, I am in Boyles camp on this one.
They basically continually trashed him as a Ranger. Some of the criticism is fair, but did they cross the line? Maybe not by message board standards, but as professional journalists?



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Boyle was a frequent target for Brooks during his time with the Rangers. The Post reporter wrote at the start of the season that “allowing Anton Stralman to escape as a free agent in order to sign Dan Boyle on July 1, 2014, stands as Glen Sather’s most regrettable decision of the final 10 years of the Rangers president’s tenure as general manager.

The “Brett” in question was fellow Post reporter Brett Cyrgalis, who wasn’t actually in attendance on Tuesday morning in Tarrytown. He hammered Boyle in an article published after the Rangers elimination, as Boyle was a healthy scratch in Game 5: “He was a big-time disappointment for the Blueshirts, and that might be how his career ends — watching instead of playing.”
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Old 04-26-2016, 06:46 PM   #27
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Brooks looks like the Wahlburg brother who cooks the burgers.
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Boyle was a frequent target for Brooks during his time with the Rangers. The Post reporter wrote at the start of the season that “allowing Anton Stralman to escape as a free agent in order to sign Dan Boyle on July 1, 2014, stands as Glen Sather’s most regrettable decision of the final 10 years of the Rangers president’s tenure as general manager.

The “Brett” in question was fellow Post reporter Brett Cyrgalis, who wasn’t actually in attendance on Tuesday morning in Tarrytown. He hammered Boyle in an article published after the Rangers elimination, as Boyle was a healthy scratch in Game 5: “He was a big-time disappointment for the Blueshirts, and that might be how his career ends — watching instead of playing.”
Is that all they said? Really? Sorry, but Boyle has to grow a thicker skin. You're a professional athlete. People are going to criticize you in public. That's part of the whole deal that goes with all that money - public scrutiny and public criticism. All these reporters did was comment that Boyle was no longer an especially good player. And guess what - he's not. They didn't take personal shots at him.

I really hope when professional sports journalists are replaced by accredited, amateur bloggers (and it's coming), we don't just get fawning fanboy coverage. Pro athletes are already spoiled and cosseted enough.
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I like Boyle but I find the admiration of his act here strange seeing Torts got trashed for doing the same thing with Brooks.
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Loved it when Torts did it. Love it now.

So they're "just doing their jobs", doesn't mean you can't tell them to f*** off.
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I understand Brooks is a clown, but what exactly did he do to incite that profanity-laden tirade? I winced through that entire video.



Seems like Boyle is upset over the media criticism he has received, but that's part of the package that comes with playing a game and earning millions doing so.



I thought Boyle could have handled that much better.
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I actually totally agree with you. I consider myself to be a good writer, but I am prone to make the odd comprehension mistake. Of course, I'm still studying, and I have a long way to go.

You know, thanks for your honesty, I really value it. I do try to contribute to discussion, I just sometimes get caught up.

To segue back on topic here, I think Brooks needs to treat the Rangers' personnel with more respect. Tortorella hated him when he was here, and now so does Boyle. I don't think it's necessarily the Rangers' problem, as much as it is the Post's. They run too much like a tabloid when they should be focusing more on the facts.
I wouldn't worry too much about it or reflect too much on the fact you made a mistake while posting on a hockey message board. You likely aren't paying as much attention to detail or caring half as much as you would about quality as you would be reading, researching and writing for your job.
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I can understand both sides of the argument here. Boyle(and Torts) are professional hockey guys(for the most part) and should accept that criticism(some fair, some unfair) will come their way. Maybe Boyle felt personally targeted by Brooks, but either way, don't give these guys the satisfaction of knowing that they have got to you, because all it does is benefit them. People will look for the stories, look for the headlines. I didn't know who Boyle was on about, but now I've googled both reporters, watched videos, read their articles. So, the only people that benefit here are the reporters, so even if they are in the wrong, they win.

As for the reporters, they seem like total ###### bags. I'm all for reporters calling players out, but why do players even get criticised for things they can't control like being signed over another player or being given a hefty contract with an NMC? The article Brooks wrote about Boyle was targeted at Boyle when it should have been directed at Slather. I think reporters should show a level of professionalism and maybe these 2 crossed it. Hard to empathise with them when they act like jerks.

I do think that players need to grow a thicker skin at times, just write it off and ignore it. And if you are going to rise, do so in a classy way. But at the same time, what happens if these articles are seen by friends and family and it affects them? What happens if Boyle's parents or wife saw it? What about his kids? There is a level of professionalism on both sides and I think all that was achieved from this was both sides looking worse off.
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Embarrassing and childish conduct by Boyle. There are better ways for him to make a point than that.
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Old 04-26-2016, 09:14 PM   #35
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Guarantee 100% of people judging Boyle reaction just as poorly when they hit their breaking point and probably hit it a lot sooner than two years in.

Easy to judge without being honest with yourself.
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Loved it when Torts did it. Love it now.

So they're "just doing their jobs", doesn't mean you can't tell them to f*** off.
Really? In what work environment would that be tolerated?
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Really? In what work environment would that be tolerated?
Among others: Construction, the military, and professional athletics.

There are work environments in which the F-bomb is considered a mild and indispensable form of punctuation.
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Brooks looks like my mother in law.
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Brooks looks like my mother in law.
I think Brooks looks like all the mother in laws.
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No issue with Boyle's reaction. Would it be better if he didn't lash out, take the high road......sure. Did he embarrass himself or cross a line, no. Made for good watching to boot.
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