Current coach's challenge and video review format

[Robbob]

It needs a tweak. I don't mind the review on goals right off the rush.

The problem with the offside is that there are so many zone entries each game with everyone one of those having different variables so I don't know how exactly to fix things. I do hate the offside calls that happen after a good minute and a half of zone time.

Maybe one of the conditions they could change is if the defensive teams has possession of the puck at anytime rather then the puck having to leave the zone then you can't go back and review the offside.

[FlamesAddiction]

I love it.

The officiating is so bad that anything they can do to bring light to that fact is a really good thing IMO.

It probably won't happen in the near future, but one day I hope that officiating is good enough (or that technology reduces the amount of officiating required) that coach's challenges become obsolete. But for now, they are needed. It's actually kind of sad that coaches and players on the bench easily see things that the officials do not.

[killer_carlson]

I think there should be greater consequence if you request a review but lose the call. It will be used as a secondary timeout. Add in something like, if you lose:

the next faceoff is in your zone
Fine for the coach, with escalating discipline like they do with diving
losing team has to ice new players on the ensuing faceoff (opposite of the icing call)
(just thinking out loud)

Also, I think there should be something on the blueline call that says you can only review if a goal is scored within 5 seconds of the play entering the zone. If more than 5 seconds, automatically not reviewable.

[Enoch Root]

People will be unhappy, no matter what.

I would like to see fewer reviews - make it more costly/punitive to call one. And limit the number.

They'll work it out.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

People will be unhappy, no matter what.

I would like to see fewer reviews - make it more costly/punitive to call one. And limit the number.

They'll work it out.

That is a good point. Make it the same as calling for the stick measurement. If you aren't right you get the delay of game penalty. I can't see many coaches try to challenge on a prayer if that is the outcome.

[SuperMatt18]

Just get rid of the tablet at the bench that you need 3 refs huddled around.

Have the goal room back in Toronto make the call on all their 50 inch HD tvs and quickly send it down to the refs.

[Dan403]

Just get it right. Everything thing else is secondary.

[Lubicon]

Perhaps it's time to change the offside rule such that it is a players body position in relation to the plane of the blueline and not the ice surface only. So a body part above the blue line (still in the plane of it) is legal regardless of where the skate blade is touching the ice.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Dan403

Just get it right. Everything thing else is secondary.

The flow of the game shouldn't be secondary to a play that was offside by a centimeter.

They should just get rid of offsides altogether. I think teams would find it is actually detrimental to have a cherry picker past the other teams blue line all game anyway. The other team just plays man to man and they are basically on a PP.

[Dan403]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

The flow of the game shouldn't be secondary to a play that was offside by a centimeter.

They should just get rid of offsides altogether. I think teams would find it is actually detrimental to have a cherry picker past the other teams blue line all game anyway. The other team just plays man to man and they are basically on a PP.

A play that would be offside by a centimeter is an illegal play. Get it right.

[CsInMyBlood]

I like it a lot. I think it brings an added level of integrity to the league.

I don't understand people saying they have a problem with the offsides being reviewable or the stance that if the puck is in the zone for 30 seconds, how can you call it back after that amount of time has passed.

Simple, if you came into the zone offside you should have never have been there in the first place. So the goal shouldn't count. I don't care if it is by a hair or a stride. If you're offside, you are offside. I understand with the speed of the game linesmen are going to miss some of these calls. So to me, being able to review it is important.

I've watched hockey for a long time and every season there have been a couple of goals against the Flames where the entry was obviously offside but not called. Now coaches have that ability to have it reviewed.

I think it was sorely needed and a great addition to the game.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Dan403

A play that would be offside by a centimeter is an illegal play. Get it right.

There's a million 'illegal' things that happen every game that aren't called. If they called the rulebook exactly to the letter, there would be dozens of penalties every game and there would be no flow at all. It would be an unwatchable mess.

Besides, what makes a missed offside more important than a missed tripping call or a missed pick? These could all result in a 'illegitimate' goal. Why not have a coaches challenge for every possible infraction?

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Couple more reviews last night. Both were of the "huh?" variety. Pretty hard to find consistency with this process. I don't think it's helping the game at all to have it at the moment.

[Coach]

Surprised the 1st LA goal wasn't called back.

Jones tripping Brown is exactly the situation I was thinking of when I mentioned opening the challenge up to any call. Why shouldn't Sutter be able to challenge that that was a penalty if DeBour can challenge that something wasn't a goal?

[Flamenspiel]

nvm

[FireGilbert]

Time to bump this thread, the challenge system is not working and the NHL was better off before with nothing.

I just want them to get goal calls right most of the time so scrap the challenge and just review every goal. Also, let the linesman call offsides. This is the new crease rule and I hope it doesn't take another Buffalo incident to realise how stupid it is.

[GioforPM]

I'm ambivalent about offside challenges but if you're going to have them, why would a puck off the netting not be challengeable versus offside or goalie interference. Much more of a clear cut play.

I do agree that the rugby system of real time video assistance from officials is much better. The issues are sorted in very quick order.

[Beatle17]

I think the NHL should adopt the NFL rule that they use on touchdowns, every goal scored in the last 2-3 minutes is automatically reviewed to see that it crossed the line and is legit, like the Hawks goal against the Flames the other night. If the coaches ask for a review and it is wrong they should get a delay of game penalty, forget losing the time out.

[Envitro]

Agreed. I've been advocating for a "delay of game" penalty on failed challenges since the beginning. It just makes more sense, and it's actually a bigger punishment than the loss of a timeout.

[OutOfTheCube]

Still terrible, still hate it.