04-19-2016, 01:31 PM
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#241
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Having no Canadian teams in the Stanley Cup playoffs was expected to have an adverse effect on TV ratings, but even people in the industry are taken aback at how viewers north of the 49th parallel have tuned out this year’s tournament in CBC and Sportsnet.
Through the first five nights of hockey in the playoffs – from last Wednesday (April 13) through Sunday (April 17) – an average of just 513,000 viewers tuned into the 20 NHL playoff games. Compare that to last spring when there were five Canadian teams playing in the first round and an average of 1.306 million viewers tuned into the first 21 first-round games. That’s a drop of 61 percent from last season.
http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/pl...ent-in-canada/
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04-19-2016, 01:35 PM
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#242
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Franchise Player
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The quality of the broadcast is subpar and Sportsnet blames its viewers.
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04-19-2016, 01:47 PM
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#243
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Barnet - North London
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Growing up watching hockey in the 60's, and on I can say I enjoy todays modern Broadcasts.
While in my youth the announcers were iconic some of the broadcasts were well... thank god for the play by play. Still it was golden glorious age.
Today I can enjoy a fantastic visual feast and I don't know how many of you suffered through a Howie Meeker colour commentary but there were times when I think he was legendary in his abrasiveness.
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I had a 'Howie Meeker Hockey School' t-shirt when I was a kid. It was the first hockey shirt I ever got. In spring I used to play shinny wearing that with nothing over it.
I was ####ing freezing, but didn't care, until my Mom would see me and go nuts.
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04-19-2016, 01:52 PM
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#244
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Could Care Less
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Canadian Viewers have an ironic aversion to Rogers hockey broadcasts
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Of all the headaches the NHL broadcast contract has given Rogers Media, one stands out: the constant stream of complaints from viewers.
On Twitter, Facebook and other forms of social media, along with the comments following online stories, the majority of gripes fall into two broad categories. The first can be summed up as get rid of Hockey Night In Canada host George Stroumboulopoulos and bring back his predecessor, Ron MacLean. The second is hate for the new look and new faces Rogers brought to the broadcasts, with the bulk of the complaints about Hockey Night, which was a CBC institution for 62 years.
The belly-aching makes some Hockey Night staffers, who go back to the days when the CBC produced the show, shake their heads. They find the non-stop complaining ironic, considering that in the final CBC years, which ended in 2014, viewers complained a lot about that version of Hockey Night on the same forums.
“We were under siege,” is the way one veteran Hockey Night staffer describes the complaints about the show that hit the CBC. Another long-time employee says the criticism was not as intense as that being fired at Rogers: “There was complaining, sure, but not like this.”
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...click=sf_globe
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04-19-2016, 01:54 PM
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#245
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary AB
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Originally Posted by dash_pinched
Having no Canadian teams in the Stanley Cup playoffs was expected to have an adverse effect on TV ratings, but even people in the industry are taken aback at how viewers north of the 49th parallel have tuned out this year’s tournament in CBC and Sportsnet.
Through the first five nights of hockey in the playoffs – from last Wednesday (April 13) through Sunday (April 17) – an average of just 513,000 viewers tuned into the 20 NHL playoff games. Compare that to last spring when there were five Canadian teams playing in the first round and an average of 1.306 million viewers tuned into the first 21 first-round games. That’s a drop of 61 percent from last season.
http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/pl...ent-in-canada/
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Reflects my watching behavior. If the Blue Jays are in the same time slot as a playoff game I'm finding myself watching Blue Jays games instead of NHL playoffs.
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04-19-2016, 01:57 PM
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#246
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by heep223
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People complaining about the lack of McLean should try watching the horrible Sunday night games. I would rather take a bullet than watch McLean talk to kids about hockey.
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04-19-2016, 01:59 PM
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#247
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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I can only speak for myself personally, but the reason I am tuning out of the playoffs this year has nothing to do with Sportsnet, and everything to do with my complete apathy with who wins. Growing up, if the Flames weren't in it, I could still watch guys like Sakic, or Yzerman, or even Bourque play and cheer them on. I looked up to those guys because they were respectable. They had an aura of majesty around them that I don't feel exists anymore, but maybe that was just me being a starry eyed kid that looked at the game differently than I do now. Who knows?
I can't think of a single player that carries that same vibrato in the NHL anymore. Other than maybe Iggy for nostalgia sake, or maybe Jagr because he just keeps playing. Otherwise, I really don't care.
Last edited by TheDragon; 04-19-2016 at 02:08 PM.
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04-19-2016, 02:03 PM
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#248
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In the Sin Bin
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MacLean is bad. Cox is horribad. Greg Millen is horribad. Healey is horribad. Kypeos is meh. Hrudey is meh. Who am I missing?
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04-19-2016, 02:07 PM
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#249
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by mikephoen
People complaining about the lack of McLean should try watching the horrible Sunday night games. I would rather take a bullet than watch McLean talk to kids about hockey.
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I agree but I don't think Ron McLean determined that's how his Sunday hockey show would look.
There is a trend in Canada where advertisers and broadcasters are grabbing on to this notion that Canadian families live and breathe hockey. That's not necessarily wrong by any means but they took that idea and are trying to make everything family friendly. The Scotiabank 5th season commercials make me want to puke. They aren't cute, they're pandering. Same thing with hometown hockey.
Hockey is an intense sport. It's fast. It's full of physicality. That's what people love about the game but instead it's marketed as this butter soft entertainment product that the whole family can sit around their Rogers tablet and watch. That clearly isn't resonating with people.
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04-19-2016, 02:08 PM
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#250
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Shame hockey fans aren't tuning in as most of the hockey has been really good. Really though you have to expect that viewership would be lower as last year you had every single NHL province represented which means a lot of fans tuning in to cheer on the provincial representative or cheer against a provincial rival. This season with no Canadian teams it's just the hardcore hockey fans tuning in.
It's all good from my point of view as I still get to watch all the games and I get the same sort of satisfaction from seeing Rogers feel the pain as watching the Oilers lose.
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04-19-2016, 02:11 PM
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#251
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Could Care Less
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Originally Posted by SofaProfessor
I agree but I don't think Ron McLean determined that's how his Sunday hockey show would look.
There is a trend in Canada where advertisers and broadcasters are grabbing on to this notion that Canadian families live and breathe hockey. That's not necessarily wrong by any means but they took that idea and are trying to make everything family friendly. The Scotiabank 5th season commercials make me want to puke. They aren't cute, they're pandering. Same thing with hometown hockey.
Hockey is an intense sport. It's fast. It's full of physicality. That's what people love about the game but instead it's marketed as this butter soft entertainment product that the whole family can sit around their Rogers tablet and watch. That clearly isn't resonating with people.
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Agreed. They went entirely the wrong direction with their marketing message.
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04-19-2016, 02:18 PM
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#252
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Franchise Player
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My GF thinks I watch too much and I toned it down this year.
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04-19-2016, 02:20 PM
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#253
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Lifetime Suspension
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I don't usually complain about the broadcast, but the new HNIC is just terrible.
The host should be on Canadian Idol, not a hockey show. The whole panel sitting in those tall chairs looks weird to me.
I will take a huge dose of Maclean, Cherry, Hrudey, Satellite Hot Stove topped with Bob Cole and Harry Neal making mistakes calling games. Miss it a lot. Even Al Strachan.
What I wouldn't miss is people complaining when an older PBP guy mispronounces a name or gets the wrong one all together. Maher did that too and it made no difference to me, he was great. And so is Bob Cole.
Let's hope Rogers listens and makes changes. Just no more skinny pants dufuses.
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04-19-2016, 02:26 PM
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#254
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heep223
Canadian Viewers have an ironic aversion to Rogers hockey broadcasts
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Of all the headaches the NHL broadcast contract has given Rogers Media, one stands out: the constant stream of complaints from viewers.
On Twitter, Facebook and other forms of social media, along with the comments following online stories, the majority of gripes fall into two broad categories. The first can be summed up as get rid of Hockey Night In Canada host George Stroumboulopoulos and bring back his predecessor, Ron MacLean. The second is hate for the new look and new faces Rogers brought to the broadcasts, with the bulk of the complaints about Hockey Night, which was a CBC institution for 62 years.
The belly-aching makes some Hockey Night staffers, who go back to the days when the CBC produced the show, shake their heads. They find the non-stop complaining ironic, considering that in the final CBC years, which ended in 2014, viewers complained a lot about that version of Hockey Night on the same forums.
“We were under siege,” is the way one veteran Hockey Night staffer describes the complaints about the show that hit the CBC. Another long-time employee says the criticism was not as intense as that being fired at Rogers: “There was complaining, sure, but not like this.”
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...click=sf_globe
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People could have had complaints with the old product and rightfully have complaints about the new one as well. You cant replace crap with crap and expect people to be happy because its new and different crap.
I think a lot of young people didnt like Cherry as hey saw him as a crusty old man with outdated views on things.
I didnt love Cherry, but I found him entertaining. I would make a point to catch Coaches Corner. I think if you didnt like him, it was easy enough to avoid the brief segment.
With Strombo, its hard to avoid if you dont like him. The easiest way is to not watch at all.
I dont think Strombo resonates with anyone. He is 43. I dont think the under 30 demographic has any particular love for him. Under 18 probably sees him as an old man. The older crowd of 55+ probably sees him as a young hispter doofus and dont care for him. Do people in Strombos age range care for him? Do you like him in his roll if you remember watching him on Much Music? Maybe.
I dont think Strombo is particularly bad, but I think he was the wrong guy for the role. Maybe people will grow to like him after a couple of more seasons. Only time will tell. But I dont think that will be the case.
And Strombo is only one of the problems.
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04-19-2016, 04:25 PM
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#255
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Boxed-in
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Surprisingly, I enjoy the HNIC broadcasts even with an ageing hipster at the helm. The biggest reason I'm not watching, aside from the lack of teams named "Flames," is that it's 27 freaking degrees Celsius in April, and I'd be an idiot if I didn't spend as much time outside as I can.
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04-20-2016, 05:07 AM
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#256
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Red
I will take a huge dose of Maclean, Cherry, Hrudey, Satellite Hot Stove topped with Bob Cole and Harry Neal making mistakes calling games. Miss it a lot. Even Al Strachan.
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Strachan is a non starter. He was ruining the show, glad they got rid of him. Cole and Neal did way too many freakin Leaf games.
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04-20-2016, 05:10 AM
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#257
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
MacLean is bad. Cox is horribad. Greg Millen is horribad. Healey is horribad. Kypeos is meh. Hrudey is meh. Who am I missing?
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You're missing a good chunk of the rest of the HNIC crew when it was on CBC. You must have not liked HNIC because MacLean, Millen, and Hrudey were all part of it.
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04-20-2016, 10:21 AM
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#258
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by mikephoen
People complaining about the lack of McLean should try watching the horrible Sunday night games. I would rather take a bullet than watch McLean talk to kids about hockey.
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IMO, McLean was an excellent host for the HNIC broadcasts. Furthermore, he was absolutely excellent opposite of Cherry on Coach's Corner. Couldn't have had two more polar opposites if you tried, and it worked great.
I wholeheartedly agree that the Sunday broadcasts of Hometown hockey are so bad they are unwatchable. Poorly thought out, poorly executed.
Segments like Satellite Hotstove were awesome. Actual analysts discussing hockey and hockey news. Now it's replaced with Kypreos and Strombo explaining how a wrist shot works on plexiglass floor. So dumb.
After Hours was worth the price of admission. Scott Oake did an amazing job of getting interesting stories out of players and tying them into sports/hockey.
The only silver lining in this whole multi billion dollar mess is Hextall, Ball & Hrudey. Having Elliot on as an analyst helps, but even that studio pisses me off.
For the record, I'm not some crusty old man pining for the good ol' days either. I'm 29 and I just want to Make Hockey Great Again.
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04-20-2016, 10:29 AM
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#259
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Abbotsford, BC
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I quite like Stombo. He's an excellent host and knows his stuff. No, he's not Ron Maclean, but he's doing a decent job.
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04-20-2016, 10:44 AM
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#260
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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I actually think he's much better than MacLean as Strombo is more of a proper host who presents information and interviews/mediates discussions. MacLean IMO was a self-promoter and as the years passed the show became more about him and his opinions. I do wish Strombo would not wear the earrings during broadcasts. I just don't find it professional for a major sports host. Before anyone jumps on me I have two ear piercings and I have nothing against them but this is HNIC not his own talk show or music entertainment programming. I feel this is an instant turnoff to older viewers and no matter how well he does it's just ammunition for viewers not to like him.
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