Gaudreau, Monahan want to play together for the next 10 years

[JJ1532]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

By your stats, Tarasenko has 4 more goals in 18 less games. One would conclude that Gaudreau isn't quite the goal scorer Tarasenko is.

But then you flip it on its head and say that Tarasenko isn't anywhere near the playmaker that Gaudreau is. So you could argue that they balance themselves out.

[Corral]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

Gaudreau isn't eligible for an offer sheet.

http://m.thn.com/blog/flames-gaudrea...ed-free-agent/

Thanks. I didn't realize that. As the article suggests then, behind closed doors the Flames are probably pushing hard for the bridge contract.

[Hugh Jahrmes]

Treleving will just show him the thread explaining Brodie's value to the team relative to Johnny's. Once that settles in, and he inks the same deal as Brodie (maybe 0.4-0.5m AAV added, you know, to stretch it to 8 years), I can't see the team having any issues convincing Monahan to commit to a number very close, but slightly lower, so they can stay together. Likely in the 4.28AAV range.

[FireItUp]

Originally Posted by Hugh Jahrmes

Treleving will just show him the thread explaining Brodie's value to the team relative to Johnny's. Once that settles in, and he inks the same deal as Brodie (maybe 0.4-0.5m AAV added, you know, to stretch it to 8 years), I can't see the team having any issues convincing Monahan to commit to a number very close, but slightly lower, so they can stay together. Likely in the 4.28AAV range.

I'll have what you're smoking and we better give that same stuff to Gaudreau and Monahan if we want them to sign at that price.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Corral

My bet is the Flames are trying to figure out how to avoid overpaying for Johnny Gaudreau, and would not be all that unhappy if an offer sheet came along for him. Despite his popularity, he is still a very small forward in a big man's game. The unknown is whether he still finds open ice and stays at the 1 PPG average when the Flames start to emerge as a contender and other teams don't just coast thru here.

Wow this has to be one of the worst posts of the year. Congrats.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Corral

Thanks. I didn't realize that. As the article suggests then, behind closed doors the Flames are probably pushing hard for the bridge contract.

I seriously doubt that. He is one of the Flames' best players, one of their most poplar players, and a top ten scorer in the NHL in his second year.


This will be a long-term deal: they know it and want it that way.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by JJ1532

But then you flip it on its head and say that Tarasenko isn't anywhere near the playmaker that Gaudreau is. So you could argue that they balance themselves out.

Agreed, which is exactly what CroFlames suggested.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I seriously doubt that. He is one of the Flames' best players, one of their most poplar players, and a top ten scorer in the NHL in his second year.


This will be a long-term deal: they know it and want it that way.

Exactly. I was expecting the dreaded sophomore slump with Johnny this year. The fact he was better and finished as a top ten scorer is impressive. Every team in the league focuses on gaudreau when they play us!

Not sure why that other poster thinks gaudreau isn't as good as the numbers say he is

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Corral

My bet is the Flames are trying to figure out how to avoid overpaying for Johnny Gaudreau, and would not be all that unhappy if an offer sheet came along for him. Despite his popularity, he is still a very small forward in a big man's game. The unknown is whether he still finds open ice and stays at the 1 PPG average when the Flames start to emerge as a contender and other teams don't just coast thru here.

I am sure the Blackhawks felt the same way about Patrick Kane as well.

[polak]

Moon is playing the "Gaudreau is actually bad" shtick over at HF Boards too.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by polak

Moon is playing the "Gaudreau is actually bad" shtick over at HF Boards too.

M-O-O-N, that spells idjit.

[Coach]

Gaudreau has already answered anyone who would ever doubt him for his size:

I’ve never been a big chirper myself because the sound of the goal horn is loud enough.

[Corral]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Wow this has to be one of the worst posts of the year. Congrats.

I guess i've just never seen the Flames really open the bank for potential stardom. Historically they pay for established success ... most recently see Giordano. Its all about money and it is a negotiation after all ... the Flames will have started low.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Corral

I guess i've just never seen the Flames really open the bank for potential stardom. Historically they pay for established success ... most recently see Giordano. Its all about money and it is a negotiation after all ... the Flames will have started low.

Hamilton?

[Corral]

Hamilton ... yeah OK ... i bet there are some owners who wish they paid less for Dougie this year.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Corral

I guess i've just never seen the Flames really open the bank for potential stardom.

Phaneuf? 6.5 million a decade ago? I think they can afford to pay Monahan that much and Johnny more.

Lets just admit it, that post was horrible.

[Corral]

A post that goes against the grain is not horrible, but rather enhances forum debate.

Anyways, so far we have two signings for potential stardom that either played out really badly (Phaneuf) or don't look too great so far (Hamilton). You can be sure Murray Edwards is reminding Treliving of this when it comes to Johnny and Sean, as well as the fact there is only so many long term max contracts the Flames can take on. Its not all popcorn and lollypops when it comes to business in the NHL.

[Trailer Fire]

Originally Posted by Corral

A post that goes against the grain is not horrible, but rather enhances forum debate.

There are posts that go against the grain and actually enhance forum debate, then there are obvious trolling posts that simply stupefy the rest of the board.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Corral

A post that goes against the grain is not horrible, but rather enhances forum debate.

Anyways, so far we have two signings for potential stardom that either played out really badly (Phaneuf) or don't look too great so far (Hamilton). You can be sure Murray Edwards is reminding Treliving of this when it comes to Johnny and Sean, as well as the fact there is only so many long term max contracts the Flames can take on. Its not all popcorn and lollypops when it comes to business in the NHL.

I would argue that Dougies contract A) is just fine value wise right now. 22nd in defensman points, 15th highest paid dmen (tied with a few guys and <1m more than a lot of worse players). And B) is not for an elite player. Elite Dmen are making 7+, and those are on old contracts. Going forward it's going to be 8+.

I think every GM in the league would take Dougie at his contract.

[Delthefunky]

Hamilton's contract wasn't supposed to look good this year. It's supposed to look good 2 years from now, and hopefully a steal beyond that.