Adidas wins long-term deal to make uniforms for the 30 NHL teams, beginning 2017-18

[OffsideSpecialist]

I haven't even bought any of the current jerseys because they're ugly. I have the black jersey, 2004 reds and current retros. If I don't find new jerseys to be an improvement over the ones I already have I don't see the purpose of getting them.

[sun]

Originally Posted by polak

lol look how defensive some of you get about this issue. Im simply calling bs. I think that most of you will give in. Stop taking it so personally.

You didn't say you "think most" would give in. You guaranteed all would "give in", which is total bull plop.

Why would I feel compelled to buy another jersey if the team wins a cup? The vintage one I wear now works just fine and will work until the team moves to Albuquerque. Since, you know, it's not ugly. In fact, it looks better than any jersey the team has had since 1994.

[PepsiFree]

I see what Polak is saying, and I see why he's saying it (even though he is wrong).

He's only wrong because normally when someone says they're boycotting something, they are an active buyer/user of that something. Which is what he assumed.

I don't think it's worth mentioning that you'll never buy another jersey if they put ads on it when you haven't even purchased a jersey in 10+ years. I don't think the $130 the NHL got from you in 2003 is factoring into decisions when considering the customer base. It is, in fact, super easy to not buy a jersey with ads on it if you don't buy jerseys anyway.

I get the sentiment though.

[rage2]

I buy a new jersey every year. I also buy F1 "jerseys" yearly plastered with advertising and always gets asked wtf is Vodafone over the years. I actually support the sponsors who support my teams, as they are the ones that help keep my sport (F1) going. I have no problems buying or wearing a Flames jersey with advertising on it.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by OffsideSpecialist

I haven't even bought any of the current jerseys because they're ugly. I have the black jersey, 2004 reds and current retros. If I don't find new jerseys to be an improvement over the ones I already have I don't see the purpose of getting them.

I hear that. I only have vintage home/away and 2004 home/away. All other jerseys in Flames history have been ugly IMO. The away/whites just before 2004 weren't bad either I guess.

I also have a pedestal jersey that was bought for me as a teenager. Don't know where it is though.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by rage2

I buy a new jersey every year. I also buy F1 "jerseys" yearly plastered with advertising and always gets asked wtf is Vodafone over the years. I actually support the sponsors who support my teams, as they are the ones that help keep my sport (F1) going. I have no problems buying or wearing a Flames jersey with advertising on it.

Yeah I think there is a big cultural difference in the acceptance of ads. In Europe there does seem to be much more support among fans for the companies hat sponsor their teams. Here we chastise both our team for selling out and the advertiser for ruining the jerseys.

I own quite a bit of f1 stuff and I have to say I prefer the move towards less ads on consumer clothing. This years red bull stuff has about half the ads of the actual team wear and vs last year. In fact I'd love a Ferrari hat but just like my post about soccer jerseys earlier, I refuse to walk around with a Santander hat. I'm supporting Ferrari, not a German bank.

[3rd line Grinder]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Yeah I think there is a big cultural difference in the acceptance of ads. In Europe there does seem to be much more support among fans for the companies hat sponsor their teams. Here we chastise both our team for selling out and the advertiser for ruining the jerseys.

I own quite a bit of f1 stuff and I have to say I prefer the move towards less ads on consumer clothing. This years red bull stuff has about half the ads of the actual team wear and vs last year. In fact I'd love a Ferrari hat but just like my post about soccer jerseys earlier, I refuse to walk around with a Santander hat. I'm supporting Ferrari, not a German bank.

Please tell me you see the irony of comparing the red bull and Ferrari teams...

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by 3rd line Grinder

Please tell me you see the irony of comparing the red bull and Ferrari teams...

Red Bull is a customer team and Ferrari is a constructor?

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by polak

lol look how defensive some of you get about this issue. Im simply calling bs. I think that most of you will give in. Stop taking it so personally.

Maybe you should not speak for others. Otherwise you make those people pissed off when your generalizations are incorrect.

You may have an opinion that works for yourself. Your opinion is not the only one.

Being arrogant and a jerk towards others does not endear yourself well to anyone.

[DynamRyan]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Premier league jerseys are horrible. Tiny little breast logo, and a giant VODAFONE across the belly? I can tell you that that wouldn't sell in Canada. At least, not until a full generation of new fans had grown up with that as their reality.
NFL jerseys are different. The helmet is where their identifying colours are, so even if they allowed sponsor logos on jerseys, it wouldn't be as repugnant.

This is nothing like ads on the boards (remember clean, white boards?), and nothing like holographic PIZZA 73 hovering above the fans in the first row. Turning the NHL jersey into anything resembling a European any-sport jersey would probably cost teams more money in lost sales than they got from the sponsorship money.

Whilst I agree with you in principle, I have to add that in the Premier league (and indeed almost all of football) having small logos on the left breast was how many of the teams designed the actual formation of their shirts a long, long time ago (like hockey teams in North America having a large team logo in the centre of the jersey.) I remember in 1996-97, Umbro decided to make all their manufactured shirts (Man Utd, Chelsea, England, Everton, Notts Forest etc) have their logos in the Centre of the shirt below the shirt crest, and a huge percentage of people hated it. When they released the next line of shirts in 1997-98 and 1998-99, they had moved them back to the left breast. The small team crest on the left (or no logo at all) was actually a global football tradition even before The English football league started allowing kit sponsor ads in the middle of shirts from the 1983-84 season. Some teams (Like Barcelona for a very long time) managed to not have the sponsor on the middle of the crest. I agree with you that that particular configuration would look really ugly on Hockey Jerseys, and I'm not a fan of the European hockey Leagues' "splatter them all over ever part of the uniform" way.

[3rd line Grinder]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Red Bull is a customer team and Ferrari is a constructor?

Well that, but also that the companies are both using their participation in the sport as a form of advertisement. The more extreme of these (and the reason for my original comment) is red bull, whose product has nothing more to do with the sport than its money and its product being used to allow fans to stay up and watch its races in all hours of the night.

At least Ferrari makes the car they are racing, but red bull has taken sponsorship to the scary future where they are even naming the teams after sponsors (also look and MLS NY red bulls).

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by polak

lol look how defensive some of you get about this issue. Im simply calling bs. I think that most of you will give in. Stop taking it so personally.

I'm not defensive about it, since I wasn't buying the damn jerseys before and will continue not to buy them in the future. But when you ‘call BS’, you are saying that everyone who disagrees with you is a liar. If this were face to face instead of the Internet, you would be seriously sucking around for a gang facepunch.

It might be a good idea if, just this once, you got over yourself instead of proclaiming yourself victorious for being a prick.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I see what Polak is saying, and I see why he's saying it (even though he is wrong).

He's only wrong because normally when someone says they're boycotting something, they are an active buyer/user of that something. Which is what he assumed.

I don't think it's worth mentioning that you'll never buy another jersey if they put ads on it when you haven't even purchased a jersey in 10+ years. I don't think the $130 the NHL got from you in 2003 is factoring into decisions when considering the customer base. It is, in fact, super easy to not buy a jersey with ads on it if you don't buy jerseys anyway.

I get the sentiment though.

I have every jersey from 2003-04 to today. Including the thirds. And if they put ads on the next iteration, that third jersey will be the last I ever bought.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

I have every jersey from 2003-04 to today. Including the thirds. And if they put ads on the next iteration, that third jersey will be the last I ever bought.

And thus, you're who Polak is talking to. You're much less believable than someone who doesn't really buy jerseys anyway.

It remains to be seen how 'resolute' you'll be should a very nice jersey come out with a small ad patch. The current third jersey isn't an awfully high standard to set...

People do things they said they'd never do 10 years ago all the time. Good luck

[corporatejay]

Just to clarify, are people saying they won't be buying jerseys if there are ads on the player jerseys but not on the premiers or only if the premiers has ads?

Because if it's CFL style where the jerseys are on the authentics but not on the premiers I'm with Polak.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Just to clarify, are people saying they won't be buying jerseys if there are ads on the player jerseys but not on the premiers or only if the premiers has ads?

Because if it's CFL style where the jerseys are on the authentics but not on the premiers I'm with Polak.

I think everyone's on various different degrees. Personally if it's a CFL style and they're on the premiers I'd buy one still (but if it were limited to authentic, I'd buy a premier over an authentic). My line is if it goes to the trend of soccer, and the ad is bigger than the logo, or if it goes to the European standard, and they're just everywhere - that's when I wouldn't buy another one.

[AcGold]

Originally Posted by polak

lol look how defensive some of you get about this issue. Im simply calling bs. I think that most of you will give in. Stop taking it so personally.

Want to wager money on it? You're dead wrong and it has nothing to do with being defensive or taking it personally.

Polak: you will buy jerseys with ads

Some of us: nope

Polak: yes you will



Polak you'd make a bad car salesman. Atleast your avatar is comical and often goes well with your posts.

[nik-]

I don't think he's wrong though. I think if ads were here next season forever, if someone didn't buy a jersey they weren't going to buy one anyway. Any protesters of ads would likely cave eventually.

His approach is a little gruff, but he's likely right.

[saillias]

Completely OT question, but jersey related: I have a child-size white "pedestal" jersey with a Lanny signature. Does this have collector value by any chance?

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by OffsideSpecialist

I haven't even bought any of the current jerseys because they're ugly. I have the black jersey, 2004 reds and current retros. If I don't find new jerseys to be an improvement over the ones I already have I don't see the purpose of getting them.

Same, at this point the Flames jersey may be the worst in the NHL. Flags and lines everywhere. It's a disaster, and I've been waiting 3+ years for them to release something non-train wreck. Since they haven't, I haven't bought anything. If they put ads on the jersey? Wouldn't buy that either. If they release something normal looking I'll buy it.