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Old 04-13-2016, 01:57 PM   #21
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If your paying $10,000 a year for your kid to go to elementary school you need to give your head a shake.
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I had no idea any government funds went to private schools. With the tuition costs those people pay, it seems insane to me that they do.
What do you mean, "those people"?



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If your paying $10,000 a year for your kid to go to elementary school you need to give your head a shake.
Explain.

Smaller classrooms, more personalized care. Seems to make more sense for elementary (aka the building blocks) than later.
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Old 04-13-2016, 02:58 PM   #23
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What do you mean, "those people"?

The Bourgeoisie of course, comrade.
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Old 04-13-2016, 04:19 PM   #24
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I don't think a dime of my tax dollars should go to anything but the public school system. (That goes for the Catholic system as well.)
The parents who send their kids to private schools are paying taxes too. As stated their kids are only getting 60% of the funding that the parents who send their kids to public schools get.
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The parents who send their kids to private schools are paying taxes too. As stated their kids are only getting 60% of the funding that the parents who send their kids to public schools get.
Which is irrelevant IMO. They make the decision to send their kids there, and it's entirely their prerogative. Plenty of people pay taxes and have no school aged children, or no post-secondary aged children or whatever the case maybe.
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Old 04-13-2016, 04:33 PM   #26
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The parents who send their kids to private schools are paying taxes too. As stated their kids are only getting 60% of the funding that the parents who send their kids to public schools get.
Private schools partially funded by public money entrenches inequality.
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Old 04-13-2016, 04:37 PM   #27
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Less (or no) funding for private schools means less kids in private schools, which means more teachers, which means more bloated teacher pensions, which I hear isn't a popular thing on this board. Make up your mind.
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Less (or no) funding for private schools means less kids in private schools, which means more teachers, which means more bloated teacher pensions, which I hear isn't a popular thing on this board. Make up your mind.
It will also mean more funding for public schools...so that makes sense to me.
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then you have to allow for parents that send their kids to private schools getting a tax exemption for not using the public system.
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then you have to allow for parents that send their kids to private schools getting a tax exemption for not using the public system.
Why? Do people without children get a tax exemption?
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then you have to allow for parents that send their kids to private schools getting a tax exemption for not using the public system.
why? people with no kids pay taxes and their money also supports public education. We don't have to allow for them?

I just think that people sending their kids to private schools are making that decision on their own. They have their reasons and even if those reasons are great reasons, no one is forcing them to take that path. We have a public system and its great.
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Are the private schools still teaching the required Alberta Curriculum and living up to Alberta's academic standards?

Because at that point if your a parent that's sending your child to a school that is still teaching that standard then it has to either get tax payer support or you give people options on their tax forms about which school system they're supporting.

That includes people without kids.
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Are the private schools still teaching the required Alberta Curriculum and living up to Alberta's academic standards?

Because at that point if your a parent that's sending your child to a school that is still teaching that standard then it has to either get tax payer support or you give people options on their tax forms about which school system they're supporting.

That includes people without kids.
Again - Why?

It is the parents' choice to send their children to a private school. They have every right to forego that and send their kids to public school instead, and take advantage of a good public system funded by their tax dollars.
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Are the private schools still teaching the required Alberta Curriculum and living up to Alberta's academic standards?

Because at that point if your a parent that's sending your child to a school that is still teaching that standard then it has to either get tax payer support or you give people options on their tax forms about which school system they're supporting.

That includes people without kids.
That's crazy talk! Next thing you know people can opt out of infrastructure builds or funding the various ministries on the "I'll never use that" basis. We all pay for public education, whether you have children or not. We aren't taxed on the basis of which programs and services we use. That's just not how the system works.

If you prefer a system where you pay for use though, we have one. Its the private school system. If people don't want to pay for that then they can enrol their children in the publicly funded system with the unwashed masses.
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Right now the funding supports both systems.

If you have no kids, your supporting both systems

If you send your kids to private your tax dollars go to both systems

If you send your kids to public your tax dollars go to both systems.

If you suddenly say that there are two educational systems and one isn't going to be supported via tax dollars, and a parent chooses to send their kids to the private system and support the private system then there's no logical reason why they should have to also support a public system. They're still paying to support a educational system.

Again, and I go back to the whole, right now, the private systems are still teaching Alberta based curriculum, and running the same testing system and are still having to live up to the standards of Alberta's educational system, so sitting there and stating, well we shouldn't have to support them because they have religious courses is wrong. At the heart of the matter they are still a Alberta school that receives less funding because parents are willing to pay a tuition fee.

As far as people without kids, they don't make the choice to send anyone to private or public schools, so if they fully split them off and say no more funding for private schools then their educational tax dollar support by default would go where the educational dollars would go.
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If you suddenly say that there are two educational systems and one isn't going to be supported via tax dollars, and a parent chooses to send their kids to the private system and support the private system then there's no logical reason why they should have to also support a public system. They're still paying to support a educational system.
That's what we are taking issue with: it's a public good. It's logical whether or not they use it for their kids.

Private schools are not a public good. They're inaccessible to most people. Therefore we shouldn't use tax money to pay for them.
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Is a private school not a public good, it costs less to the taxpayer to educate kids there, however they are still teaching the same curriculum by law and receiving taxpayer dollars because of that? The difference is made up by parents willing to make up the difference?

Are the private schools not providing a educational function to the kids in this province?
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As long as they receive no public funds whatsoever, I don't really care if private schools follow the Alberta curriculum.

I trust that the ones with horrible curriculums would go out of business.
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As someone with no kids, I'd like my funds to go wherever they are used most efficiently. If it saves tax dollars by funding 60% of private education by not having to fully fund the same child in the public system, then I'm fine with it. If they want to study this and find out, go ahead. But lets not make a decision with unintended consequences that ends up costing me more.
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Are the private schools profitable? I don't think that public money should be given to private business. Amongst the other issues I have with public funding of private schools, I don't see why people would be onside with that.
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