[Rumour] PK Subban to the Oilers?

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Don't the Habs need PK? What's the rush to get rid of him?

It's media speculation because his no movement clause kicks in next season.

[LanceUppercut]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Does rnh + Yakupov + x get t it done?

The x better be the 2016 1st, a 2017 first (not lottery protected) and another decent prospect.

[shermanator]

It wouldn't surprise me to see the Oilers go after one of the most overrated defenseman in the league. And yet, he would instantly be head the best defenseman on their team by a massive margin.

For me, any trade proposal for Subban would have to start with Hall and continue adding. Maybe Hall + Klefbom or something.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Don't the Habs need PK? What's the rush to get rid of him?

Are they going to contend with him anytime soon? If they get the right deal it might similar to when Flyers offloaded Richards for Schenn, Simmonds and Carter for Voracek and Couturier. Subban's value is probably never going to be higher. If you wanna do a retool and change the team around he'll get you an absolute haul. Both those Flyers deals look really solid from a value perspective. I think MTL can extract crazy value from EDM if they want.

Subban is exciting but from MTL's perspective do you really wanna build around his 9 million salary? I think he's great offensively but I'm not sure he's the guy you wanna build a franchise around.

[FlamingHomer]

That's funny. During the last summer I asked my brother-in-law Oilers fan if he would trade the first overall pick in the 2015 draft (knowing it would be McDavid) for Subban and Price and he said no.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Does rnh + Yakupov + x get t it done?

Not even close. RNH is. 2nd line center. Yakupov is a bust. More like 2016 1st, Draisaitl and Klefbom. I can't see Montreal taking any less.

Would be awesome to see the Oilers have over 1/4 of their payroll tied up in two players in three years time. McJesus will be certain to be a $12-13M player, plus Subban. Can't afford to ice a team after that.

[Huntingwhale]

These are the kind of rumors were going to be seeing all over the hockey world this entire summer because of this reason: the Habs not making the playoffs. That is literally the only reason we will see this rumor. Not because it might actually help the team. Not because something is in the workds. But because the french media needs stuff to write about now that their team isn't in.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Any Habs ask starts at McDavid.

Lots of luck with that one.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Subban is exciting but from MTL's perspective do you really wanna build around his 9 million salary? I think he's great offensively but I'm not sure he's the guy you wanna build a franchise around.

I'm curious as to why not? To me he's the definition of a franchise player. He's won a Norris (albeit in a lockout season). He's an exciting player that people pay to see. He's marketable. He put down a load of money to help at a local hospital. He took the time to learn french specifically so he could interact with fans and media. And he is a game breaker on the ice.

Sure he makes a couple bad defensive plays and has a high risk style. But IMO that's doesn't mean someone isn't a franchise player. To me a franchise player also involves what the player does off the ice. And Subban is very much involved in spades. He's their face of the franchise and go to guy.

[CaptainCrunch]

It would start with Drai + Klefbom + their 1st this year unprotected.

I would expect that any GM that gets a call from Chia about a top pairing defenseman is going to go for the golden fleece from a desparate GM moving into a new building with no blueline help on the way.

As it stands I doubt the Habs would be intetested in more shrinky-dink soft forwards like Ebs or RNH, Yak is zero value out there. For a team that's stocked up on first round draft picks, they really don't have much that would fire up a trade partner that's available.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

I'm curious as to why not? To me he's the definition of a franchise player. He's won a Norris (albeit in a lockout season). He's an exciting player that people pay to see. He's marketable. He put down a load of money to help at a local hospital. He took the time to learn french specifically so he could interact with fans and media. And he is a game breaker on the ice.

Sure he makes a couple bad defensive plays and has a high risk style. But IMO that's doesn't mean someone isn't a franchise player. To me a franchise player also involves what the player does off the ice. And Subban is very much involved in spades. He's their face of the franchise and go to guy.

I'm not as big of a fan of the higher risk, high reward offensive defensemen. I think in general those guys get overrated and overpaid because of their points. Give me a slightly less offensive d-man who's better in his own zone and makes 2-5 million less every day of the week. I don't think his salary is crippling but I'd much rather build around guys like Keith, Doughty, Josi, Brodie, etc who make less money but IMO are better all around defensemen.

His trade value should be massive and EDM is going to have to be willing to overpay if they want a top two defenseman. MTL could be in a situation where they get more back for Subban than he should be worth. PHI turned Mike Richards into two players younger and better than Mike Richards. PHI turned Jeff Carter into two players about as good as Carter IMO. If MTL can turn Subban into 3-4 high level assets that helps them become a legitimate contender more easily.

[CaptainCrunch]

does any phone call between Chia and a Nhl GM involve Chia being called a pancake eating m%%%%%-%%%%%% and being told that he has a chance to save hockey in Edmonton?

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Any Habs ask starts at McDavid.

lol

Maybe if their ask wants to stop any conversation.

[BigTuna]

Subban is not who the Oilers need. They need someone to help with defence.

[lambeburger]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

Subban is not who the Oilers need. They need someone to help with defence.

Oilers management would find him perfect then.

[Vinny01]

Oilers have the assets to do it but the Habs would need to start a full rebuild if they move PK. Maybe we can then trade for Price?

[Yoho]

If Oil win lottery trade Austin M. to Phoenix for OEL.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Any Habs ask starts at McDavid.

In their dreams. The ask will start at Hall.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Yoho

If Oil win lottery trade Austin M. to Phoenix for OEL.

Don Maloney already said there is no way he trades OEL for the top pick

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

In their dreams. The ask will start at Hall.

I think the Habs would want a package around a centre not a winger. Drasaitl, Nurse, Eberle and swap first round picks (Oilers 1-4 Habs around 9th)