04-08-2016, 03:11 PM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
At worst, he's one tier below. At age 21, he has 63 points.
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How many did Crosby have at 21?
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04-08-2016, 03:15 PM
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#22
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First round-bust
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
How many did Crosby have at 21?
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You mean in the highest-scoring season of the last 20 years?
We're not comparing two players at the same age here.
I think Monahan is close to, if not at the level of, Sid Crosby.
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04-08-2016, 03:17 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
You mean in the highest-scoring season of the last 20 years?
We're not comparing two players at the same age here.
I think Monahan is close to, if not at the level of, Sid Crosby.
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no he isn't, sorry
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04-08-2016, 03:18 PM
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#24
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
no he isn't, sorry
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What makes you say that? Stay in the present moment
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04-08-2016, 03:19 PM
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#25
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I think Monahan is close to, if not at the level of, Sid Crosby.
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Facepalm. No, Monahan is not at the level of one of the best players in the game.
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04-08-2016, 03:20 PM
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#26
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#1 Goaltender
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Monahan is awesome and we are very lucky to have him, but to say he is on Crosby's level is a good way to embarrass Flames fans
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04-08-2016, 03:21 PM
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#27
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Facepalm. No, Monahan is not at the level of one of the best players in the game.
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Eh, just my thoughts, I guess.
IMO, Monahan is playing at a very high level ATM. I wouldn't be surprised if he outscores Crosby next year.
No need to derail the thread on this, though.
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04-08-2016, 03:22 PM
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#28
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
You mean in the highest-scoring season of the last 20 years?
We're not comparing two players at the same age here.
I think Monahan is close to, if not at the level of, Sid Crosby.
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Good lord you are a HOMER!!!! 
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04-08-2016, 03:23 PM
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#29
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First Line Centre
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Don't worry guys we will get Auston Matthews
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04-08-2016, 03:24 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Eh, just my thoughts, I guess.
IMO, Monahan is playing at a very high level ATM. I wouldn't be surprised if he outscores Crosby next year.
No need to derail the thread on this, though.
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SC: 85 pts in 80 games, as season that started off horribly.
SM: 63 pt in 80 games.
As much as i hope you are correct, I suspect you are wrong in your about next year.
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04-08-2016, 03:24 PM
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#31
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Eh, just my thoughts, I guess.
IMO, Monahan is playing at a very high level ATM. I wouldn't be surprised if he outscores Crosby next year.
No need to derail the thread on this, though.
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Yeah that's fine, I would just like to point out that despite Crosby's awfully slow start, he still has 22 more points than Monahan this year.
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04-08-2016, 03:27 PM
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#32
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by icecube
Good lord you are a HOMER!!!! |
Probably, but I really really like both players.
Just my opinion
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04-08-2016, 03:29 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Probably, but I really really like both players.
Just my opinion
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04-08-2016, 03:30 PM
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#34
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: YYC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
You mean in the highest-scoring season of the last 20 years?
We're not comparing two players at the same age here.
I think Monahan is close to, if not at the level of, Sid Crosby.
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How bout no.
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04-08-2016, 03:30 PM
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#35
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
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And...? This is 1500% irrelevant.
Again, let's not derail the thread here.
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04-08-2016, 03:31 PM
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#36
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Again, let's not derail the thread here.
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You've already done it. You can't say something completely outlandish and not expect people to react.
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04-08-2016, 03:34 PM
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#37
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
You've already done it. You can't say something completely outlandish and not expect people to react.
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At least I've been talking about how much I love Sean Monahan which happens to be in the very title of this thread
Monahan is a top-10 centre in this league, and he isn't tenth. It's not the popular opinion, but it's mine.
Bash it all you want. I never intended to make this into such an issue, because it really shouldn't be one.
I love Sean Monahan, and I'm not worried at all about his future.
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04-08-2016, 03:42 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
At worst, he's one tier below. At age 21, he has 63 points.
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I would say that center tiers go something like:
Tier I
Crosby
Tier II
Malkin / Kopitar / Bergeron / Giroux / Thornton / Toews / Getzlaf / Kuznetsov
Tier III
Seguin / Barkov / Tavares / McDavid / Kesler / Spezza / Krejci / Datsyuk / Backstrom
Tier IV
Couture / ModernDayStamkos / Carter / Scheifele / Monahan / Johansen
As for point totals, I'd be weary of them. The Flames are a very dangerous offense and no doubt Monahan has some contribution to that but I'd wager our blue line and high-risk high-reward offensive system has the most contribution to that.
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04-08-2016, 03:45 PM
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#39
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
I would say that center tiers go something like:
Tier I
Crosby
Tier II
Malkin / Kopitar / Bergeron / Giroux / Thornton / Toews / Getzlaf / Kuznetsov
Tier III
Seguin / Barkov / Tavares / McDavid / Kesler / Spezza / Krejci / Datsyuk / Backstrom
Tier IV
Couture / ModernDayStamkos / Carter / Scheifele / Monahan / Johansen
As for point totals, I'd be weary of them. The Flames are a very dangerous offense and no doubt Monahan has some contribution to that but I'd wager our blue line and high-risk high-reward offensive system has the most contribution to that.
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OK, using that tier system, Crosby is most definitely higher
However, why is Kuznetsov way higher than Monahan? Why is Barkov ahead of Monahan?
Monahan should be in tier 2/3 with Stamkos, IMO.
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04-08-2016, 03:45 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Sean Monahan and Sam Bennett are about as complimentary of a one-two punch as you can get down the middle. We get caught up in labels way too much as fans. Some games and some stretches Monahan and his line will be the number one trio, some nights it will be Bennett and his wingers leading the charge.
Back-to-back seasons of 60+ points and his 22nd birthday is still half a years away.
Pretty good, pretty, pretty pretty good.
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This this 1000x this.
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