Would you bring Iggy back at the deadline if playoffs bound?

[MarkGio]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Bouma and Monahan say hi.

Both are very young guys. Not exactly a veteran, former Art Ross, 4X all time star, 2X gold medalist, etc. I'm not saying Iginla should be captain, but he could be a veteran presence for a young forward group.

[mikephoen]

I'd do it in a second, assuming the cost is reasonable. I think people discount how good Iggy still is. 20+ goal scorers that will also drop the gloves to stick up for their teammates are rare. He might have lost some speed, but that's pretty inconsequential to the PP, and Johnny is more than capable of making use of the late man on any rush. I think he could play up or down the lineup. He can play a 3rd or even 4th line grinder roll if needed (and everyone is healthy) or move up and not look out of place.

[JonDuke]

I understand the whole "that ship has sailed" but given the scenario in the OP, I'd take him back in a heart beat.
I don't want him here for 3 more years, but for playoff help (given we reach that need) heck yes.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Both are very young guys. Not exactly a veteran, former Art Ross, 4X all time star, 2X gold medalist, etc. I'm not saying Iginla should be captain, but he could be a veteran presence for a young forward group.

Well FDW was responding to you saying leadership, not specifically a veteran presence.

[FlamesAddiction]

With the roster we have right now, I would. But not because it's Iginla, but because we could use RW scoring depth.

Hopefully by the time we make the playoffs next, it's not an issue any more though.

[squirtle]

I'd rather use his 5.5M cap space and sign someone else in UFA like Okposo

[Machiavelli]

Really love Iggy but he has more than lost another step this season....he's like a minus 20, which is not a good thing. Pretty much only useful on the PP.

So yeah, gonna have to say no on this. Ask me two weeks ago and I may have said differently.

[1qqaaz]

I think Iggy would be useful for a Flames playoff run than David Jones will be for a Wild playoff run...

The moral boost alone would be worth more than a 6th round pick IMO. Nevermind the fact that he's still a solid player.

But I doubt it's going to happen.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Even putting all the baggage aside, no I wouldn't.

He'll be 39 to start the new season and despite scoring 20 this year his play has dropped off. On the surface it might seem like it's a good fit, 20 goal scoring right winger but that play will continue to drop rapidly. Just isn't worth it to insert that into your line up and as you can see already in this thread, people can't separate the previous version of him from the now.

Hopefully we snag that winger we need in the draft year. It won't be an immediate help but a guy like Laine, Puljuu###i, Dubois, Tkachuk probably aren't that far off from making an impact. Younger guys already on the roster should be given chances as well, many interesting wingers who could make the jump.

Taking a few things into consideration, the chances of Iggy wearing a flaming C at the deadline next year is really low.

-Flames have to probably be comfortably in a playoff spot (Probably not)
-Avs have to be well out of the race (Possible)
-Treliving doesn't have to part with any futures in a trade (Probably not)

But even without Iginla the Flames need to address the RW situation somehow - even if we win the 2nd/3rd overall they can't just bank on inserting a Finn on that #1 right side and expecting him to produce Hudler-like numbers. And this year is far too tight to the cap to be digging around in UFA, or make a trade without significant salary coming back.

I had a long discussion with an Avs fan about the possibility of a straight Wideman - Iginla swap in the offseason. At the beginning of the season when I proposed it, he was hesitant, but now that Iginla's had a regressive season, the Avs are regressing, and they are in dire need of defencemen, he's warmed to the proposal. Salary and contracts are a wash, both positions of need on their teams. I'm guessing there would be "handshake" deals to trade them at the deadline to contenders if their respective teams are out of the race. All the makings of a hockey trade.

I'd prefer it if Wideman never steps on the ice wearing the flaming C again. People are putting hopes on him just having a bad season, but I think we're seeing the start of real regression for Dennis. We've all seen how he's played this season - timing is off, shot accuracy is true to his name, slower first step, slower reads, reflexes aren't there. And this wasn't him just shaking pre-season rust off, we've been seeing this from him the whole year - so I have to believe that there's a very good chance of it getting even worse over the offseason.

[djsFlames]

I think for it to happen, the Flames would have to be firmly in a playoff position, while the Avs would need to be sellers or at least very tentatively on the cusp. In that case, I would take him to be a PP specialist that can move up and down our middle six. As a UFA for the purpose of a playoff run (and maybe even his last?) I think he'd be worth acquiring.

Also, to address the proposed Wideman for Iggy straight across, I would most definitely do that. Today even. It can't be disputed that Iginla would be more beneficial to the team's needs than Wideman, given our D-core.

[flamesfever]

I'd hate to get back to the "pass the puck to Iggy" days. He has lost a step, and today the game is all speed and puck control. I can't see him being a good fit for the team, other than maybe helping our pp to some degree. He'd have to come pretty cheap.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

I'd hate to get back to the "pass the puck to Iggy" days. He has lost a step, and today the game is all speed and puck control. I can't see him being a good fit for the team, other than maybe helping our pp to some degree. He'd have to come pretty cheap.

Tanguay's playing for AZ! But anyways no one on this team would just pass to Iggy just because 'he's Iggy'. That's silly. If they pass to him, it's because he's open.

"Pass the puck to Johnny" is the new "Pass the puck to Iggy" now anyway.

[DJones]

Would hate him with Frolik and Backlund. Much to slow nowadays.

If we somehow don't have a #1 RW he might do alright with Gaudreau and Monahan.

[Buff]

Is he a deadline rental? Is he on the final year of his contract? Is there ZERO expectations to sign him again in the off season? Are the Flames truly a Cup contender?

If all of the above, then, yes.

Will Iginla be capable of playing a depth forward role once the Flames are Cup Contenders or will he be retired by then? He'll probably be retired, so this makes it not bloodly likely. Too bad. I'd still like to see Iginla get his cup and I'd prefer it to be in a Flames uniform.

I'm not going to kid myself. If Iginla were to play for the Flames again, it better not be as the top gun. He'll be there to provide depth and veteran leadership. The problem is, many people will be frustrated that he isn't on the 1st line and potting 40 goals.

[TSXCman]

Is it me or are there MANY posts in this thread where people are omitting words in their sentences or putting in the wrong one (like bad autocorrect)?

I just went through the first page and had to shake my head to make sure I wasn't developing some form of dyslexia.

[Huntingwhale]

I truly wonder how many people here have actually watched Avs games. And I don't mean the highlights. Actually paid attention to Iginla playing on the Avs. He's not that good anymore. Yes he scored 20 goals. Yes he brings some toughness. But have you noticed how often he loses board battles? How slow he is? How he doesn't hustle back defensively that hard? I've seen a bunch of Avalanche games just to watch Iginla and he's not like he once was, even compared to last season. He'll have a poor game by his standards, then score a goal, yet be a -3. But hey, he padded his goal stats. A comparison might be when TB was playing the Flames and Stamoks was quiet all night. Then he scores in the last minute. To the outside observers it seems like he might have had a decent night because he scored. Yet the eye test says otherwise. It's pretty obvious in this thread those who actually watched him play this season, and those who see "20 goals!" and visualize him playing here suddenly.

Posters here that put him on the Monahan/JG line are setting only prove themselves to be living in the past. By slotting Iginla on the top line, you are expecting him to carry a part of the team like all 1st lines are. And you'd be the first people to crap all over when when he can barely keep pace and becomes a liability.

And imagine all the articles that get written the moment he signs here. God, Francis' first article is ''Should Gio give up the captaincy?". In big bold colours on the front page. Book it. That's what will be talked about immediately. Without even trying, Iginla becomes a distraction.

I'll always love Iggy, but that ship has long sailed. Iginla is not literally the 3rd best forward on this team like was suggested. Scoring 20 goals makes you a good goal scorer, but there are other intangibles involved in being a complete player that will help drive forward the success of this group. Literally the only reason to sign Iginla is to have him sign his retirement contract so he can retire a Flame. That's it.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by TSXCman

Is it me or are there MANY posts in this thread where people are omitting words in their sentences or putting in the wrong one (like bad autocorrect)?

I just went through the first page and had to shake my head to make sure I wasn't developing some form of dyslexia.

Dyslexia would be the safe assumption. Or you're just too grammar nazi for the interwebs.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Posters here that put him on the Monahan/JG line are setting only prove themselves to be living in the past. By slotting Iginla on the top line, you are expecting him to carry a part of the team like all 1st lines are. And you'd be the first people to crap all over when when he can barely keep pace and becomes a liability.

Sticking a veteran on arguably the best young forward tandem in the NHL - and expecting the vet to be the one carrying - is seriously pushing the boundaries of reasonable expectation.

But who else we got? Frolik? Seems to be more effective with Backlund and isn't really a natural goal-scorer.

Ferland? Tried it.
Colborne? Tried it.

Heck... we even tried Freddie with Johnny and Mony. The reason for all the RW juggling on the top line at all is because our RW depth is just that bad after Hudler's departure... hence, why this thread about Iggy even exists.

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

And imagine all the articles that get written the moment he signs here. God, Francis' first article is ''Should Gio give up the captaincy?". In big bold colours on the front page. Book it. That's what will be talked about immediately. Without even trying, Iginla becomes a distraction.

That's 100% on Francis being Mr Clickbait, not Iginla.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Sticking a veteran on arguably the best young forward tandem in the NHL - and expecting the vet to be the one carrying - is seriously pushing the boundaries of reasonable expectation.

But who else we got? Frolik? Seems to be more effective with Backlund and isn't really a natural goal-scorer.

Ferland? Tried it.
Colborne? Tried it.

Heck... we even tried Freddie with Johnny and Mony. The reason all this is happening is at all because our RW depth is just that bad after Hudler's departure... hence, why this thread about Iggy even exists.

That's 100% on Francis being Mr Clickbait, not Iginla.

Our fan base is full of people with unreasonable expectations. But people are going to see Iggy playing with Gaudreau/Monahan on the 1st line and they will expect a certain amount of production from him. They will then be disappointed when he doesn't deliver. Just read some of the comments people write about how good Iginla would look on Johnny's wing. People in their imaginations already expect certain results.

And I certainly wouldn't fault Iggy on any type of click-bait article being written about him getting the captaincy back from Gio. I never ever thought Iginla as a person was ever a distraction here. But those media types around him certainly do make him one. I can guarantee that questions regarding the Flames' captaincy will be brought up the second Iginla (theoretically) returns as a Flame. Search your heart. You know it's true.

[Heavy Jack]

Still playing 80+ games, still putting up reasonable numbers... i say see how the season starts and if we are in a good spot a month before the deadline then see if you can bring him into the fold.