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				Stamkos out 1-3 months with blood clot
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			Erik Erlendsson @erlendssonTBO 
Yzerman said Stamkos had discomfort in his arm, has blood clot in his arm 
 
Michelle Gingras @michellegingras 
Yzerman: Stamkos expected to make a full recovery, out 1-3 months #TBlightning
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-02-2016, 09:13 PM
			
			
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			Bad news for the Lightning. Hope he recovers well.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-02-2016, 09:19 PM
			
			
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			That sucks for Stamkos. I don't feel bad for Tampa at all.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-02-2016, 09:24 PM
			
			
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			Get well soon Stamkos, STICK IT TAMPA!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-02-2016, 09:35 PM
			
			
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			04-02-2016, 09:37 PM
			
			
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			As usual, Stamkos won’t be showing up for the Lightning in the playoffs 
 
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			04-02-2016, 09:37 PM
			
			
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			So has Stamkos played his final game for the Lightning? No way they go deep enough in the post season for him to come back in time. Wonder if Yzerman tries to get a contract done now that Stamkos is likely done for the season? Imagine the lift it would give that entire organisation if he signed a deal in the next week or so.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-02-2016, 09:39 PM
			
			
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			Brutal for the Lightning.  And for Stamkos.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-02-2016, 09:39 PM
			
			
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				should have traded him 
			
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			04-02-2016, 09:57 PM
			
			
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			Blood clot issues can effect his value to another team. Wonder how the Leafs will perceive this?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-02-2016, 10:30 PM
			
			
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			Is it crazy to think this might affect his value by 1-2M per year (8-16M total)? More likely to be 9-10 now instead of a possible 11 or 12 AAV?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-02-2016, 10:45 PM
			
			
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				Is it crazy to think this might affect his value by 1-2M per year (8-16M total)? More likely to be 9-10 now instead of a possible 11 or 12 AAV? 
			
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Who in their right mind would pay 12 million per for a player who isn't even a PPG? Yikes.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-02-2016, 10:50 PM
			
			
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			Missing out on the last Olympics and now this. Terrible news for Stamkos and the Lightning.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-02-2016, 10:59 PM
			
			
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				Who in their right mind would pay 12 million per for a player who isn't even a PPG? Yikes. 
			
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No one in their right mind, but there's always a handful of NHL GMs that think they are the smartest guys in the room.
 
Different numbers, but Clarkson, Semin, Yashin, Lecavalier, Richards, Drury, Redden, etc.
 
Former 60 goal scoring 26 year old UFA is unprecedented in this system...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-03-2016, 12:38 AM
			
			
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			Wow that's too bad. Would have been nice to see him go on a good playoff run with Tampa and get a huge payday. I'm sure he'll still get a great contract but a deep playoff run would definitely have been a good bargaining chip.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-03-2016, 12:54 AM
			
			
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			will be interesting to see what he wants...assuming he wants a chance to win and wants to be in a good market, there aren't that many choices; here's the possible franchises that I would say both can make the cap space and might be considered as either a condender or as having the chance to be one soon: Nashville, NYI, St Louis, Montreal, Detroit, Calgary, Boston, Winnipeg 
 
So, if I have to rank them... 
 
Tampa, St Louis, Montreal, Calgary Nashville would be my bet of his 5 most likely destinations (in that order). They can all pay between 8-9m for 8 years. I don't think he gets much more than that. There's something to like in all of them if your stamkos 
 
Tampa:  
Pro: low taxes, have gone to finals before, well built team, contender right now  
Con: Probably at apex from an age and development perspective (especially on the backend), not clear you want to be there for more than 4 years 
 
St Louis 
Pro - good team, well balanced, missing an elite forward 
Con - seemingly never good enough 
 
Montreal 
Pro: hockey mad, Carey Price/PK Subban/Stamkos - thats a great core all in their prime at 26, good depth up front, would be special to put on the original six jersey, could have 6 good years there 
Con: lack depth of defense. Need carey price to play lights out to win the cup, not enough young talent to expect them to compete for 8 years 
 
Calgary 
Pro: hockey mad, pre-aprex so could sign there for 8 years with chances to win every year, very strong young pieces balanced at front and back end - monahan, jonny, bennett, gio, brodie, hamilton  
Con: unclear if the talent will ever come together, goaltending hole, stamkos probably plays the wing 
 
Nashville 
Pro: strong defense, good depth up front, could make an argument they are a number 1 center away from being a favorite, apex or pre-apex team 
Con: not a strong hockey market
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-03-2016, 12:56 AM
			
			
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				Who in their right mind would pay 12 million per for a player who isn't even a PPG? Yikes. 
			
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Shanahan and Lou, apparently. Not sure I'd offer an AAV over 8.5 for what he's going to give you.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-03-2016, 12:58 AM
			
			
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			^^Tampa is the only team that can offer him an 8 year deal. Everyone else can only offer 7 years at the longest.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-03-2016, 02:03 AM
			
			
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				Who in their right mind would pay 12 million per for a player who isn't even a PPG? Yikes. 
			
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Hawks are happy to pay $10.5M for Toews
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-03-2016, 09:41 AM
			
			
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				will be interesting to see what he wants...assuming he wants a chance to win and wants to be in a good market, there aren't that many choices; here's the possible franchises that I would say both can make the cap space and might be considered as either a condender or as having the chance to be one soon: Nashville, NYI, St Louis, Montreal, Detroit, Calgary, Boston, Winnipeg 
 
So, if I have to rank them... 
 
Tampa, St Louis, Montreal, Calgary Nashville would be my bet of his 5 most likely destinations (in that order). They can all pay between 8-9m for 8 years. I don't think he gets much more than that. There's something to like in all of them if your stamkos 
 
Tampa:  
Pro: low taxes, have gone to finals before, well built team, contender right now  
Con: Probably at apex from an age and development perspective (especially on the backend), not clear you want to be there for more than 4 years 
 
St Louis 
Pro - good team, well balanced, missing an elite forward 
Con - seemingly never good enough 
 
Montreal 
Pro: hockey mad, Carey Price/PK Subban/Stamkos - thats a great core all in their prime at 26, good depth up front, would be special to put on the original six jersey, could have 6 good years there 
Con: lack depth of defense. Need carey price to play lights out to win the cup, not enough young talent to expect them to compete for 8 years 
 
Calgary 
Pro: hockey mad, pre-aprex so could sign there for 8 years with chances to win every year, very strong young pieces balanced at front and back end - monahan, jonny, bennett, gio, brodie, hamilton  
Con: unclear if the talent will ever come together, goaltending hole, stamkos probably plays the wing 
 
Nashville 
Pro: strong defense, good depth up front, could make an argument they are a number 1 center away from being a favorite, apex or pre-apex team 
Con: not a strong hockey market 
			
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This is silly. Toronto is the clear frontrunner. I really doubt Nashville has the $ to sign him ($, not cap). Winnipeg over his hometown? LOL. Winnipeg is challenging the Leafs for 30th.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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