03-29-2016, 04:56 PM
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#101
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Originally Posted by T@T
Pro sports isn't just about the player, the draft exists for a reason, teams spend hundreds of thousands of $$$ a year on scouting only to see one of their picks have a nice 4th year season and bolt to another team.
It's a crappy system period! 
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This and the broken luck-based tank-inducing lottery are two of the biggest problems in the NHL. A 10 year is old smart enough to think of improvements to the status quo for both the college free agent problem and the still broken lottery.
This is really too bad for Nashville, and as a fan of theirs, this is extremely annoying. Respectable and well-performing organizations that do surprisingly well in non-traditional markets do not deserve this kind of crap.
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03-29-2016, 05:00 PM
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#102
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Could Care Less
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Here's his players tribune article (very recent - only a month ago). He clearly has a connection with Boston.
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I can remember waking up for 5 a.m. mite hockey games with my dad when the sun wasn’t even up yet. If I said I was tired, he’d say, “C’mon, Jimmy, someday this is all gonna be worth it.” Then on the way home we would pretend to announce my name as the first overall pick in my draft year. Those days were the best; I still remember that stuff like it was yesterday.…
With the first pick in the 2011 NHL Entry Draft … the Boston Bruins are proud to select … from North Reading, Mass. … Jimmy Vesey.
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Beyond hockey, staying for my senior year has given me the opportunity to graduate from Harvard. One of the things I’m most proud about is that I’m from Boston. I come from a long line of blue-collar Bostonians.… City people — that’s who we are. Not many people in my family have had the chance to go to college, so I like to think that when I get my Harvard degree this spring, it’ll be a testament to all of their hard work, because I definitely know I didn’t get here by myself.
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Also from the article, lol:
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It was the toughest decision I’ve ever made, but I turned the offer down and decided to go back to college for my senior year. I actually turned down my dream for another year of bus rides, dining hall food and homework. Pretty nuts, huh?
When I officially announced my decision, everyone — and I mean everyone — seemed to have a comment. Some people thought I must have been doing it to hold out for free agency this summer, while some people couldn’t fathom the fact that I was going back at all. How bad could I really want to be a hockey player if I was choosing to go back to school?
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http://www.theplayerstribune.com/jim...arvard-hockey/
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03-29-2016, 11:00 PM
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#103
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
The leaf drafting has been inept. Wasn't a putdown, was the truth.
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Has is the good word. Very past tense
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03-29-2016, 11:00 PM
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#104
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Someone like me? You mean someone who watches hockey? Yeah you're probably right.
The sites you mention have Marner above Nylander, that should speak volumes to their credibility. Moving on.
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Huh? Marner was picked 4 spots higher in the draft.
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03-29-2016, 11:02 PM
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#105
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Oh sorry to disappoint you, you probably believe the media hype. Other than Nylander they have jack ####.
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Top 5 NHL prospect pool, They'll be #1 after the draft, guaranteed. That's jack ####?
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03-29-2016, 11:05 PM
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#106
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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It's entirely possible to respond to multiple quotes in one post BigTuna.
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03-29-2016, 11:07 PM
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#107
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Originally Posted by heep223
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Sure it has been mentioned but Toronto would be another likely landing spot. Dad is a scout and brother is a draft pick.
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03-29-2016, 11:08 PM
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#108
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Sure it has been mentioned but Toronto would be another likely landing spot. Dad is a scout and brother is a draft pick.
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Hence why Toronto is the favorite right now,
Funny how Stamkos being from Toronto and being a huge Leaf fan means nothing but Vesey being from Boston is the be all and end all.
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03-29-2016, 11:18 PM
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#109
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by BigTuna
Huh? Marner was picked 4 spots higher in the draft.
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Way too much Toronto talk in here and my apologies for derailing the thread, but Marner hasn't improved since he has been drafted and had a terrible showing at the world juniors. Nylander did more and was out with a concussion for the majority of it. You'd think Toronto fans would know that.
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03-29-2016, 11:49 PM
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#110
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTuna
Top 5 NHL prospect pool, They'll be #1 after the draft, guaranteed. That's jack ####?
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It kind of is actually. Maybe you can look back in five years and be all excited about how right you were about the Leafs prospect pool but for now, the Leafs suck. A media-recognized good prospect pool is a guarantee of nothing, you should probably wait to brag until there is actually something worth bragging about.
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03-30-2016, 01:35 AM
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#111
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix
It kind of is actually. Maybe you can look back in five years and be all excited about how right you were about the Leafs prospect pool but for now, the Leafs suck. A media-recognized good prospect pool is a guarantee of nothing, you should probably wait to brag until there is actually something worth bragging about.
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This. So much this.
Yeah, your favorite team entered a rebuild because they sucked after the first rebuild sucked, so they have all these highly ranked draft picks. Also, because your team sold-off every single player it possibly could, they had more shots at finding legitimate prospects in the draft. The selling also corresponded nicely with trying to draft the highest possible caliber of prospect in a draft (ahem.. tanking). .
Yeah, time to beat the chest. On some other team's forum no less.
Yawn... come back and start bragging when your team at least is considered a legitimate contender and has a good strong prospect pool from which they keep replacing players through without skipping a beat. Don't do it because your team happens to be contending with the Oilers. I am sure there were (and still ARE) plenty of Oiler fans who are extremely proud of their prospect pool.
Until then, huge yawn. Your prospect pool is so good? Wow! Your favorite team sucked long and hard, hey? Congratulations! That is simply fantabulous!
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03-30-2016, 05:29 AM
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#112
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Way too much Toronto talk in here and my apologies for derailing the thread, but Marner hasn't improved since he has been drafted and had a terrible showing at the world juniors. Nylander did more and was out with a concussion for the majority of it. You'd think Toronto fans would know that.
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Yes he has. His numbers have improved in the OHL. He's the first player since Tavares to post a 2+ PPG in two seasons in the OHL. And "Terrible" is very much hyperbole. He tied for the team lead in scoring at the world juniors and was very good in their last game.
Nylander doing what he did in the AHL puts him right there. He and Marner were back-to-back in the hockeys futures rankings.(7 and 8th best prospects in hockey).
Marner:
2014-15': 63 44 82 126
2015-16': 57 39 77 116
Last edited by BigTuna; 03-30-2016 at 06:07 AM.
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03-30-2016, 05:30 AM
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#113
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix
It kind of is actually. Maybe you can look back in five years and be all excited about how right you were about the Leafs prospect pool but for now, the Leafs suck. A media-recognized good prospect pool is a guarantee of nothing, you should probably wait to brag until there is actually something worth bragging about.
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You would not say jack #### about any other teams with good prospects. You said they have no good prospects, so you were talking about prospects.
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03-30-2016, 06:51 AM
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#114
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Big Tuna should start a Big Tuna defends the Leaf thread where he/she just links to these posts and has his say so every thread he enters doesn't have a side Leaf argument while everyone else discusses the topic at hand.
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03-30-2016, 07:15 AM
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#115
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Franchise Player
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He's completely right about Marner though. Suggesting that Marner has been disappointing in the one season since he's been drafted is just... wrong.
I'd also have to agree with him that after the draft they'll have the best prospect pool in the league, going by HF standards of prospects being players under 23 who haven't played 25 NHL games yet. Who else is it likely to be?
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03-30-2016, 08:01 AM
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#116
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Boston Herald reporting that Vesey will sign with his hometown Bruins:
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/b...ding_to_source
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According to an extremely well-placed source within the Boston-area college hockey community, the forward will opt for free agency and sign with the B’s.
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03-30-2016, 08:07 AM
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#117
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Franchise Player
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Nice luck for beantown.
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03-30-2016, 08:10 AM
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#118
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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This is so do she by Vesey. His technically still belongs to the preds and he's already decided he's going to sign in Boston. Situations like this should be treated like an RFA situation where instead of being compensated an arbitrary pick, you get the second rounder of the new team the player signs with.
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03-30-2016, 08:11 AM
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#119
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Franchise Player
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High profile college or Euro free agent?
Hello Boston, Chicago, Rangers, Philly, Tampa or Detroit.
And here I thought for sure Vesey would sign in Winnipeg.
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