What will Colborne's new contract be?

[calgaryblood]

Don't sign him. Conroy was on the radio a few weeks back and was saying how you can't really judge a player game easily when the team is out of the playoffs because it's easy to play when there is no pressure. he said you had to be careful judging players when the games don't really matter. I have zero doubt he was at least talking about Colborne a little bit. As many already know not a fan of his at all. Would be if he consistently played like he has the last month but I highly doubt he's finally figured it out.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Tough crowd. On Canucks forums they are excited that both Horvat and Baertschi may eclipse 30 points this season while Flames fans want to ship out Colborne for getting close to 40 points like these types of players on entry level deals grow on trees.

We just remember how god awful he was before the games stopped mattering.

[MoreDrank]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Tough crowd. On Canucks forums they are excited that both Horvat and Baertschi may eclipse 30 points this season while Flames fans want to ship out Colborne for getting close to 40 points like these types of players on entry level deals grow on trees.

Vancouver is a garbage heap. Not a fair comparison. Nevermind, Bo and Sven are younger than Colborne and expected to improve.

At 26, we are seeing his peak. This is it—an anomalous career year. He's fine at $1.275 mil. But the Flames can't afford him and Bouma making $2 mil at the same time, not unless a lot of money moves out during the summer. Can't be handing out bad money contracts to players who heat up when all the pressure is off.

How many surgeries has he had on his wrists? Three or four? When he's had problems with them, he's been ice cold.

Sell high on him while you can.

[dino7c]

Trade Bouma and keep Joe

[Macho0978]

I disagree with the idea of trading Colborne. If the motivation is his contract will be more than the Flames are comfortable giving him what will we get for him in return? Nothing better IMO

I think he gets 3 years 2.3 per year. Slight raise on Bouma.

I also see this as being a good cap hit for 2nd/3rd line player.

I also see keeping guys like Ferland, Colborne, Frolik, Backlund, Bouma as smart moves as we need some depth. It's guys like Stajan, Raymond, Bollig, Wideman, Engeland, Smid that are killing our cap not guys like Colborne or Bouma

Intangible for Colborne too he wins 57% of his face-offs. With Monahan improving dramatically in his first 3 years we could be a good face off team for the first time in years

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Our biggest problem offensively is secondary scoring, so what is the solution when a secondary scorer emerges; trade him!

Flames are 10th in league scoring and dead last in goals against. Secondary scoring isn't our problem.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Flames are 10th in league scoring and dead last in goals against. Secondary scoring isn't our problem.

Biggest problem offensively...... perhaps rather than trying to argue every post someone makes you might want to spend another few seconds making sure you actually read what was said.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Don't sign him. Conroy was on the radio a few weeks back and was saying how you can't really judge a player game easily when the team is out of the playoffs because it's easy to play when there is no pressure. he said you had to be careful judging players when the games don't really matter. I have zero doubt he was at least talking about Colborne a little bit. As many already know not a fan of his at all. Would be if he consistently played like he has the last month but I highly doubt he's finally figured it out.

Yet in the Ortio thread we have fans penciling him in for a backup or 1B role based on garbage time play. Yes the team takes this late performance with a grain of salt but Colborne is an asset and like Ortio they will at the very least come to terms on a contract after the season. I know a lot of people seem to think that he's replaceable by some AHL forwards but as we have seen that isn't necessarily the case and with Hudler gone the team is seriously thin on talented wingers and whether you like him or not you have to admit he's one of the higher skilled wingers on the roster.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Flames are 10th in league scoring and dead last in goals against. Secondary scoring isn't our problem.

Look at the point totals from the players on our bottom 3 lines. Of course secondary scoring is a problem.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by polak

We just remember how god awful he was before the games stopped mattering.

I remember Giordano being god awful in October/November when the games counted. Monahan had a very pedestrian first half of the season as well. While most Flames fans want to blame the entire season failure on goaltending the fact is that key players like Giordano, Monahan, Backlund, Hamilton, etc all got off to slow or poor starts to the season and you can attribute their play to the list of reasons the season got derailed. There is no doubt Colborne was part of that underachievement but he deserves the same fair shake the other players got for turning around their games in the 2nd half of the season.

[Hackey]

$0.00 over 0 years.

[nik-]

I remember last year and the year before when Colborne was mostly awful too.

[DJones]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

Look at the point totals from the players on our bottom 3 lines. Of course secondary scoring is a problem.

Our defense getting so many points kind of distorts that.

6 forwards with over 15 goals is solid.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Biggest problem offensively...... perhaps rather than trying to argue every post someone makes you might want to spend another few seconds making sure you actually read what was said.

I read what you said which is why I posted the Goals per game as 10th in the league. How is secondary scoring a problem?

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

Look at the point totals from the players on our bottom 3 lines. Of course secondary scoring is a problem.

I have and I don't see anything wrong with them.

[Red Menace]

have to think he will get around 2.5 million.
It certainly has the potential to be instantly regrettable a la the Lance Bouma contract last year.

[Hackey]

Secondary scoring could be better but I think that's addressed more so with creating a better 2nd line. Colborne doesn't do that. A free agent signing or our 1st this year hopefully can help. Bennett/Frolik on that line with someone and then Gaudreau Monahan would give us two pretty solid lines. Hopefully the third can be filled out with the multitude of prospects we have and 1 or two making the jump along with someone like Backlund.

[GranteedEV]

Secondary scoring isn't a problem. The biggest problem scoring on this team is the power play, and Colborne does nothing for that because he's not useful on the PP. In fact one might argue his presence on PP1 has probably cost us as many PP goals as he's scored at ES.

The problem with this, I'll say for the third time this week, is that teams have no fear of our PP and what happens is they do whatever they want to Johnny and company. I would gladly trade a few 5 on 5 crash the net Colborne goals for some power play goals that keep our PP a threat.

The biggest problem with this team is defending. Not sure if to what extent it's system or personnel, but I don't really consider Colborne a vital part of that puzzle.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

I read what you said which is why I posted the Goals per game as 10th in the league. How is secondary scoring a problem?

I said biggest problem offensively, and it's pretty obvious that or forward group needs more offense after Gaudreau & Monahan. 3 of the teams top 5 scorers are defensemen, just 7 forwards with more than 20 points (one of whom has been traded), just 7 forwards with 10 goals or more (again oine of whom has been traded). And you want to dump the forward that is #4 in points and #3 in goals, yeah if secondary scoring wasn't a problem before it would be after that.

[CroFlames]

I bet he gets a 3 year deal, north of $2.5MM per season.

Whether that is with the Flames or another club is a different matter altogether. I would give him that deal if I were Brad. He's a 30 point guy and that's the going rate.