Jankowski/Gilmour signing watch. (Friedman: "Arm-wrestling" over bonuses)

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

My first choice would be to sign Jankowski of course, but a compensatory 2nd rounder wouldn't be the end of the world. I do think Jankowski has an uphill battle to be an impact NHLer.

Like any prospect.

But a more uphill battle than a 51st overall pick?

[keratosis]

Originally Posted by Teroy

Not sure what all the hype is about. Jankowski and Gilmour are 4th liners at best.

Zyzz brought another troll with him this time.

[zyzz]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Well that's great, I'll defer to your vast hockey knowledge. The guy who predicted that Sven Baertschi would "put up more points then any Flames forward". You liked that prediction so much you doubled up on it. How'd that work out again?

I remain humble in my defeat. We can't all be good looking and perfect like you.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by zyzz

I remain humble in my defeat. We can't all be good looking and perfect like you.

Pfff, I can!

[Sylvanfan]

I tried to tell the wall in my basement that Gilmour was a 4th liner at best and the wall bluntly said that Gilmour's a Defenceman you idiot.

[TheScorpion]

Just going to stay out of this... Christ Almighty.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Just going to stay out of this... Christ Almighty.

I am just going to read your post.

[sureLoss]

News Update

Wes GilbertsonVerified account ‏@WesGilbertson
#Flames prospect Mark Jankowski was ill, not injured, last night as Providence was eliminated from NCAA tourney. Several IV bags post-game.

[EastCoastFlamesFan]

Get it done BT! Sign them both. Pulling for these guys--especially Janko.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Originally Posted by zyzz

I remain humble in my defeat. We can't all be good looking and perfect like you.

I'd settle for not having to go to rival teams forum just to talk crap about a player you know nothing about. I feel like there's a lot of ugly non-perfect people that can at least do that much.

[Burner]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

News Update

Wes GilbertsonVerified account ‏@WesGilbertson
#Flames prospect Mark Jankowski was ill, not injured, last night as Providence was eliminated from NCAA tourney. Several IV bags post-game.

How disappointing that must be - end of your college career - lose in OT and cant really help your team

[Bandwagon In Flames]

I'm excited for both to sign and disagree with any who say this will be an up-hill battle for Jankowski to make the NHL.

It's more of an up-hill battle for smaller players like Gaudreau, Mangiapane, Gilmour etc.

Jankowski is a 6'4 defensively minded centerman who scored the most points of any Friar since 2002. His own coach (respected in his own right) has been calling him NHL caliber for 2 years now.

Jankowski was ready to turn pro last year but the Flames didn't have the room. I wouldn't be surprised if he's playing 3rd line minutes in the NHL game 1 next season.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Canadiens have signed Jankowski's teammate

Canadiens Montréal @CanadiensMTL
Canadiens agree to terms on a two-year contract with free agent Tom Parisi.

Gotta give Leaman credit. Quite a few players he's scouted have scored NHL contracts or gotten drafted as second/third year eligibles. Jooris, Gostisbehere, Gilmour, Acciari, Parisi. It'll be interesting what happens with Mingoia, Tanev, Saracino, and Nick Ellis. Seems to know what to look for.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by zyzz

two career AHLers. Janko is a poor mans Colborne

Colborne is a 30 point NHL forward. What's your point?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by druetetective

Is that really how NHLE works?
I'm one of Jankowski's bigger critics, and that article was trash.

You mis-quoted the article:

For example, the NHLe translation factor for the KHL is 0.83, basically saying that a point scored in the KHL is 83% as easy as a point scored in the NHL.

This author's explanation is quite terrible, but what he is saying is generally correct. NHLe is a number derived for each major development and professional league from the accumulation of players who make the transition from said league to the NHL. The difference in each player's point production is then factored into quantifying the average difference between PPG at one level compared to PPG in the NHL. The number is then a difficulty level measured against the NHL standard which is 1.00.

To use the example presented, the KHL NHLe of 0.83 means that every player who has made the transition from that league to the NHL has scored on average 83% of their past season's total. Because this is an average measurement, that means that there will be a number of players who will outscore and underscore their NHLe when they make the transition. For example, Sam Bennett is currently underscoring his NHLe, which suggested that he should be scoring at a 0.653 pts/gp pace in the NHL. The same is the case for Canucks prospect Jared McCann, whose NHLe projects to him scoring 0.433 pts/gp. Max Domi is outscoring his NHLe, which projected him as a 0.536 pts/gp player this season.

What does this mean for Jankowski? I would suggest that it serves as a baseline for what we could expect of him entering the NHL, but as with all such measures of player potential, there are plenty of factors which will have an impact on what actually happens. The fact that Jankowski was drafted out of a Canadian HS league, and that he was the youngest player in the NCAA in his freshman year are both elements that will tend to muddy up the averages.

[druetetective]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

You mis-quoted the article:

That would be difficult since I copied and pasted it directly from the article.

He has edited it since, probably reads these forums.

[Blarg]

I think NHLe is such a stupid stat to rely on as an indicator of NHL success. Anybody know what Drouin's NHLe was? Even if he hit that mark, how is he doing now?

[zyzz]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Colborne is a 30 point NHL forward. What's your point?

Yikes. A poor mans version, think about it for a second

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Blarg

I think NHLe is such a stupid stat to rely on as an indicator of NHL success. Anybody know what Drouin's NHLe was? Even if he hit that mark, how is he doing now?

It's not stupid, depending upon how it is used. I suppose if you depend upon every player to meet their NHLe, then yes, the outliers like Drouin will tend to make it look useless. But in actual fact, the calculation works as a predictor more often than not. Gaudreau nailed his NHLe last year. Dylan Larkin hit his this year.

[handgroen]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

News Update

Wes GilbertsonVerified account ‏@WesGilbertson
#Flames prospect Mark Jankowski was ill, not injured, last night as Providence was eliminated from NCAA tourney. Several IV bags post-game.

great news!!! means we could still see janko in the dome this season. a little whiff of excitement in a bleak seasons end.