2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors v2

[polak]

wrong thread

[Split98]

Originally Posted by polak

wrong thread

I just LOLd pretty hard reading this and looking at your avatar.

It's like you're super choked that you screwed up.

[Poe969]

I was only asking because it's posted that they should buy out Stajan but there is still a penalty against the cap isn't there?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Poe969

I was only asking because it's posted that they should buy out Stajan but there is still a penalty against the cap isn't there?

There;s no way Stajan will be bought out regardless, because they'll need him to hit 25% for the expansion draft

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

There;s no way Stajan will be bought out regardless, because they'll need him to hit 25% for the expansion draft

Stajan wouldn't be a bad guy for an expansion team to pick up. Gets them to the floor, a decent veteran in the room, can still do stuff like faceoffs, maybe a new lease on life thing.

[Enoch Root]

agreed

[Poe969]

I dont think he will either but that poster said buy him out but didn't include the buy out penalty in the budget.

My point is that buying someone out still comes at a cost

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Stajan wouldn't be a bad guy for an expansion team to pick up. Gets them to the floor, a decent veteran in the room, can still do stuff like faceoffs, maybe a new lease on life thing.

That's a solid endorsement there.

"Have to pay him"
"Can do stuff"
"Decent guy"
"May have a new lease on life"


Would love to see those intangibles listed when analyzing the expansion draft pickup.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

That's a solid endorsement there.

"Have to pay him"
"Can do stuff"
"Decent guy"
"May have a new lease on life"


Would love to see those intangibles listed when analyzing the expansion draft pickup.

Cons: Possible Homer Sexual

[druetetective]

When is the buyout period?

There very well may be no expansion even happening. I believe they will announce any plans before the draft.

[sureLoss]

The normal buyout window starts June 15th or 48 hours after the Stanley Cup is awarded (whichever is later). It ends 5pm June 30th.

There is a secondary buyout window that exists if a team goes to salary arbitration. It opens 3 days after a team's last salary arbitration case is settled or awarded and ends after 48 hours. For this buyout window a player must be on the team's reserve list as of the previous trade deadline and must have a minimum AAV of I believe $3 million. Using this secondary buyout window can only be done 3 times by a team over the length of this current CBA.

This of course assumes no changes are made to the buyout rules for the expansion draft, which if the NHL and NHLPA agree to might happen.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

All this talk about buying out. Do we really need the cap space next year that would make it worth it? Should have room to sign Gaudreau, Monahan and a goalie if we find one without a buyout no?

[dissentowner]

If we can't solve the 1st line RW problem in the off season or at the draft what about giving Poirier a shot at it during pre-season? I have not seen him this year but isn't he really fast with a good shot?

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

If we can't solve the 1st line RW problem in the off season or at the draft what about giving Poirier a shot at it during pre-season? I have not seen him this year but isn't he really fast with a good shot?

We don't like our guys. We know too much about them. We like other guys, from the fancy side of the fence.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

All this talk about buying out. Do we really need the cap space next year that would make it worth it? Should have room to sign Gaudreau, Monahan and a goalie if we find one without a buyout no?

You are correct. The Flames don't really need to buy anyone out, or even really trade anyone for that matter.

Assuming the cap will be as projected ($74 million) and the Flames sign:

Two goalies totaling $5 million
Johnny Gaudreau @ $7.5 million
Sean Monahan @ $6.0 million
Joe Colborne @ $1.8 million
Josh Jooris @ $1.0 million
Jakub Nakladal @ $0.9 million

That would give them a roster size of 23 and they'd still have $2 million in cap space.

This includes Raymond and Smid.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Colborne - Backlund - Frolik
Bouma - Bennett - Jooris
Bollig - Stajan - Hathaway
Raymond

Brodie - Hamilton
Giordano - Wideman
Smid - Engelland
Wotherspoon - Nakladal

Goalie #1
Goalie #2

Again, roughly $2 million in cap space.

Still, I'm hoping for some changes/upgrades in a few places.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

You are correct. The Flames don't really need to buy anyone out, or even really trade anyone for that matter.

Assuming the cap will be as projected ($74 million) and the Flames sign:

Two goalies totaling $5 million
Johnny Gaudreau @ $7.5 million
Sean Monahan @ $6.0 million
Joe Colborne @ $1.8 million
Josh Jooris @ $1.0 million
Jakub Nakladal @ $0.9 million

That would give them a roster size of 23 and they'd still have $2 million in cap space.

This includes Raymond and Smid.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Colborne - Backlund - Frolik
Bouma - Bennett - Jooris
Bollig - Stajan - Hathaway
Raymond

Brodie - Hamilton
Giordano - Wideman
Smid - Engelland
Wotherspoon - Nakladal

Goalie #1
Goalie #2

Again, roughly $2 million in cap space.

Still, I'm hoping for some changes/upgrades in a few places.

I think the problem regarding cap space is outline with your post though. There is simply no cap space to make the team better and it would probably be worse as we'd be without Hudler and Russell for the year.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

You are correct. The Flames don't really need to buy anyone out, or even really trade anyone for that matter.

Assuming the cap will be as projected ($74 million) and the Flames sign:

Two goalies totaling $5 million
Johnny Gaudreau @ $7.5 million
Sean Monahan @ $6.0 million
Joe Colborne @ $1.8 million
Josh Jooris @ $1.0 million
Jakub Nakladal @ $0.9 million

That would give them a roster size of 23 and they'd still have $2 million in cap space.

This includes Raymond and Smid.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Colborne - Backlund - Frolik
Bouma - Bennett - Jooris
Bollig - Stajan - Hathaway
Raymond

Brodie - Hamilton
Giordano - Wideman
Smid - Engelland
Wotherspoon - Nakladal

Goalie #1
Goalie #2

Again, roughly $2 million in cap space.

Still, I'm hoping for some changes/upgrades in a few places.

Great post! Although, I'd say management has seen everything they want to in Raymond, so they'll probably bring up Shinkaruk/Poirier/Agostino in his place - and the Flames can't buy two goalies with $2 million, but otherwise, good mockup.

[hockey.modern]

Call me crazy, but I think Raymond will be a top 6 fixture next year. Contract year + awakening after being demoted.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Great post! Although, I'd say management has seen everything they want to in Raymond, so they'll probably bring up Shinkaruk/Poirier/Agostino in his place - and the Flames can't buy two goalies with $2 million, but otherwise, good mockup.

This mock up has them spending $5 million on goalies, not $2 million. That's easily done IMO.

[MarkGio]

Pittsburgh doesn't have a first. I wonder if that Dallas pick is enough to get us Matt Murray?

Otherwise we could probably package Wideman @50% retained + Florida's 2nd/Our 3rd to get another 1st