34 Reported Dead over 200 injured in Belgium Terror Attacks

[JonDuke]

I really liked the Paris Attack Thread because it was full of information about the event.
Then it turned to crap because people insisted on going totally OT and debating religious issues instead.

Can we keep those arguments out of this thread? There's a whole "Ongoing Terrorism/ISIS/al Qaeda Thread" right on the same page where you can debate religion all you want. Go there.

Bold suggestion: Maybe we could use this thread for relevant information related directly to the events that transpired in Belgium instead.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

I doubt we'll be able to avoid it but I agree.

[MRCboicgy]

Ok, pre-emptive warning coming up

Keep this to the event at hand and don't personally attack posters in the thread. If this goes off the rails, there will be some time in the box.

[jammies]

Every time you blame the "Muslims", you make a terrorist happy. The point of terrorism is not to kill people, killing people is but a means. The end is to create fear, to destroy reason, to create a narrative of two irreconcilable forces opposing one another - a narrative that, once entrenched, will compel those they see as their own to have no choice but to side with them in their war or be destroyed.

You can be angry without letting anger tell you what to say and how to act. Otherwise you're just another terrorist who uses words instead of bombs.

[GomerPile]

Interesting to see the response from Dutch authorities, they seem to have had responders on the ready. I was at the Rotterdam train station about 5-10 minutes after this happened. Noticed a large police presence, as well at Schipol and Amsterdam central. I was wondering what was going on as I boarded the train, then my Twitter updated.

I hope the survivors/injured all pull through.

[2Stonedbirds]

The clash of cultures and rise of the far right will not be pretty in Europe.

Keep it up asshats.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by AcGold

Islam is turning into some uncontrollable abomination. If you study psychology in depth there is such a thing as cluster b personality disorders where you act in rage and justify it by pointing at the wrongs others have done onto you. It's always associated with absolutely irrational reasoning and victimizing the self.

It's seriously out of control psychological illness, let's go kill those we think are bad us to make the world better. Doesn't work that way, I'm pro freedom of choice most of the time but holy crap when are people going to wake up to the sickness Islam is creating. It's creating a race of self pitying narcissists that don't care one bit about anyone but themselves.

I'm not going to go into any sort of debate regarding what you just said. All I'm going to say, is that Islam has about 1 billion followers. If Islam seriously is as you claim, we are in a lot of trouble.

For the record, I don't share your opinion.

Thoughts and prayers to those affected in Belgium and elsewhere.

[Huntingwhale]

Man what a gong show. I was in Brussels during the summer and there is something sickening about seeing places you've been to be destroyed like that. Those people responsible can burn in hell.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Man what a gong show. I was in Brussels during the summer and there is something sickening about seeing places you've been to be destroyed like that. Those people responsible can burn in hell.

I know what you mean. I was in Paris around 1 month before the Terrorist attack. It was a terrible feeling knowing that a place that you had such happy memories has to deal with such horrific senseless.

Has anyone looked at some of the pictures in Reddit? It looks like it was a hell of an explosion.




There is a video in the CBC link in OP. That one really shows the extent of the damage.

The Subway ones are crazy as well.

[Weitz]

I read on CNN they evacuated a Nuclear Power plant except top essential personnel.

[Buster]

Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

The clash of cultures and rise of the far right will not be pretty in Europe.

Keep it up asshats.

The fact that people will turn to far right extremism as a means to "solve" the problem is a direct result of the left and mainstream in the west refusing to acknowledge the problem at all.

For instance, Obama, Trudeau et all STILL refuse to use the word Islam in reference to terror attacks. They aren't fooling anybody.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Buster

The fact that people will turn to far right extremism as a means to "solve" the problem is a direct result of the left and mainstream in the west refusing to acknowledge the problem at all.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by jammies

Every time you blame the "Muslims", you make a terrorist happy. The point of terrorism is not to kill people, killing people is but a means. The end is to create fear, to destroy reason, to create a narrative of two irreconcilable forces opposing one another - a narrative that, once entrenched, will compel those they see as their own to have no choice but to side with them in their war or be destroyed.

It's really not clear what you're saying here, and I hear a similar argument quite often. Basically, we need to avoid "confirming the narrative" of the extremists, because... I'm not sure. You say that we need to prevent the narrative from becoming "entrenched". What does this mean?

Are you suggesting that if we criticize these actions as being religiously motivated, or otherwise criticize the tenets of the faith that Islamists and terrorists are relying on in support of jihad and attacks like these, that otherwise peaceful Muslims will suddenly go and join ISIS and start blowing up bus terminals? That there are a significant proportion of currently moderate Muslims who are just that far away from becoming violent?

If that's the case, we absolutely should be talking about it, because it's terrifying.

[heep223]

Really sad. These were innocent people going about their day like any other. Can't even believe the grief that their loved ones are feeling. So nonsensical.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

It's really not clear what you're saying here, and I hear a similar argument quite often. Basically, we need to avoid "confirming the narrative" of the extremists, because... I'm not sure. You say that we need to prevent the narrative from becoming "entrenched". What does this mean?

Are you suggesting that if we criticize these actions as being religiously motivated, or otherwise criticize the tenets of the faith that Islamists and terrorists are relying on in support of jihad and attacks like these, that otherwise peaceful Muslims will suddenly go and join ISIS and start blowing up bus terminals? That there are a significant proportion of currently moderate Muslims who are just that far away from becoming violent?

If that's the case, we absolutely should be talking about it, because it's terrifying.

Well, exactly.
a) His position explicitly assumes that ignorance is bliss. That if we ignore the socio-cultural, and economic aspects of this threat, then somehow it will go away, because everyone will really see how nice we are, and no one wants to hurt nice people.
b) That all Muslims are just a hair away from joining the extremists if they become too offended.

[AcGold]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

This is just idiotic. First off they aren't some monolithic group of people, second you could replace Islam with any number of terms and come up with the same semi applicable crap. Replace Islam in your post with Donald Trump.

You want to calm me idiotic? Seriously?

You honestly think one of the most violent and delusional religions ever is the exact same as a man that's not killed anyone, never really done anything illegal...what's the worst thing he's done?

Seriously, if you're going to make a directed personal attack back it up. How does running for office the same as rape, murder genocidal, tendencies and terrorism? Where's the parallel?

Please please explain otherwise it seems like you had absolutely nothing to back it up and you're just spouting off the BS talking point of the week. Go read a book dumbass. Quite possibly the dumbest argument I've ever seen.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by AcGold

You want to calm me idiotic? Seriously?

You honestly think one of the most violent and delusional religions ever is the exact same as a man that's not killed anyone, never really done anything illegal...what's the worst thing he's done?

Seriously, if you're going to make a directed personal attack back it up. How does running for office the same as rape, murder genocidal, tendencies and terrorism? Where's the parallel?

Please please explain otherwise it seems like you had absolutely nothing to back it up and you're just spouting off the BS talking point of the week. Go read a book dumbass. Quite possibly the dumbest argument I've ever seen.

He said your point was idiotic. He didn't say you were an idiot.

[pgsieve]

"Can we just keep this about updates and not personal attacks and ideology arguments..."

... Followed by 6 posts doing exactly the opposite

[Flabbibulin]

A few analysts have pointed out that the subways weren't closed after the airport bombs and probably should have been. Looks like the subway attack was about an hour after the airport- how quickly and efficiently can you shut down a subway system in a city like Brussels anyway? Maybe it was the plan, but they just didn't have enough time.

Wonder if this will be a point of criticism in the coming days.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by MRCboicgy

Keep this to the event at hand and don't personally attack posters in the thread.

Thirteen posts later...

Originally Posted by AcGold

Go read a book dumbass. Quite possibly the dumbest argument I've ever seen.

KEEP IT TOGETHER CP