2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors v2

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by HelloHockeyFans

Islanders now down 3-1 to the Flyers with about 14 minutes left to play in the third and if Philly hangs on, will be 3 points behind the Isles with the same number of games played.

Greiss in net, but I wonder if the rumours posted earlier come to fruition about them looking into a goalie with Halak out?

They're 3 points behind the Rangers with two games in hand but the Rangers are leading right now and if they hang on, that makes it 5 points behind with the same two games in hand.

Does Snow pull the trigger and snag Hiller?

Can't see it. Would have happened by now

[Mister Yamoto]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Can't see it. Would have happened by now

I would imagine that the phone is ringing off the hook for Hiller. Treliving is just waiting for the right deal.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by heep223

I really disagree with signing Backes, even though I like him. Firstly he is going to want more than $5M. Secondly he's too old - he's the kind of player that an established contender adds as a final piece for a playoff run for a year or two, not as a rebuilding team with a young core pushing to become a consistent playoff team. Backes is going to become less effective every year and I really think we'd regret that contract. Okposo makes way more sense, no he's not as big but he's younger and produces more.

Also not to nit pick your lineup but ideally Backlund/Frolik/Colborne are your checking line (with offensive upside), and Bouma/Brouwer are on the 4th line. Brouwer has scored 20 goals a few times but similar to Backes he's going to become less effective every year. Your forward group is missing an entire "2nd" offensive line with Bennett as the C on it. IMO of course.

I agree:

Gaudreau-Monahan-_______
_________-Bennett-________
Colborne-Backlund-Frolik
Bouma-Jooris-Ferland
Bollig/Stajan

[frodo_t_baggins]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I doubt he'd sign here anyways, and I know many here would hate the idea, but if I'm Treliving I take a run at Stamkos. 26 years old, right hand shot and can play right wing or center. He's one of the top 2 or 3 goal scorers in the league and in his prime. He'd be lights out with Johnny, either as his center or on the right wing along with Monahan for years and years.

I'd off him the max term possible for us which is 7 years, and I'd go $9.0-9.5 million per.

Stamkos (26)
Gaudreau (22)
Monahan (21)
Bennett (19)

Giordano (32)
Brodie (25)
Hamilton (22)

That would be a sick core to build around.

I am on board with this if the flames don't draft top 3 this year. I can't see them having another good shot to add another youngish elite player, (which I think they need) unless they have yet another bad season.

Seeing how players like Hathaway, Nakladal, Kevin and Wotherspoon have all been effective at low cost, I believe the flames could break the bank on their top end + stamkos and fill the rest of the lineup with those type of players. Chicago has only had success after signing Hossa despite his contract and I think the same could happen if the flames add stamkos.

And if it's a disaster after a year, you can expose him at the expansion draft

[druetetective]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

I agree:

Gaudreau-Monahan-_______
_________-Bennett-________
Colborne-Backlund-Frolik
Bouma-Jooris-Ferland
Bollig/Stajan

Maybe in a perfect world.

Good luck finding 3 top 6 players in a year or two. You win the lottery that's one, than just 1 of our Stockton prospects/Mangiapane/Carroll for the other. Than perhaps you sign a lower tier winger for the 2nd line. Jamie Mcginn for 3.5-4 million for 2 years maybe.

Easier said than done.

Who else thinks Colborne-Backlund-Frolik would be one of the best 3rd lines in the league though?

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by druetetective

Maybe in a perfect world.

Good luck finding 3 top 6 players in a year or two. You win the lottery that's one, than just 1 of our Stockton prospects/Mangiapane/Carroll for the other. Than perhaps you sign a lower tier winger for the 2nd line. Jamie Mcginn for 3.5-4 million for 2 years maybe.

Easier said than done.

I think we only need 2 top 6 wingers. I think you expect one of Ferland or Colborne to develop into the other. There's a few different avenues

1. Draft top 5
2. Trade one or two 2nd rounders for a 2nd line forward
3. Sign a 1st or 2nd line UFA this summer after moving Wideman's salary out
4. Having one of our prospects mature. I wouldn't be pencilling in any of them personally.

I don't think it's inconceivable Treliving adds 2 legit top 6 forwards. Who saw him adding Hamilton last offseason? I could see him adding a future top 6 guy at the draft and trading for a top 6 winger at the draft and adding one in free agency. Our depth problems could be solved quite quickly with some Treliving magic.

[MarkGio]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

I agree:

Gaudreau-Monahan-_______
_________-Bennett-________
Colborne-Backlund-Frolik
Bouma-Jooris-Ferland
Bollig/Stajan

Yeah, hopefully two current prospects pan out, with my money being Poirer and Shikarak. That leaves a guy like Lainey needed for the top line..,

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by druetetective

Maybe in a perfect world.

Good luck finding 3 top 6 players in a year or two. You win the lottery that's one, than just 1 of our Stockton prospects/Mangiapane/Carroll for the other. Than perhaps you sign a lower tier winger for the 2nd line. Jamie Mcginn for 3.5-4 million for 2 years maybe.

Easier said than done.

Who else thinks Colborne-Backlund-Frolik would be one of the best 3rd lines in the league though?

You draft one and sign the other.

That's the timeline the flames are looking at if they want to be successful with Monahan and Gaudreau in their prime years.

Jokipakka and Hamilton acquisitions have somewhat reduced the need to draft a defender with this year's high pick. What is painfully obvious is that the Flames are desperate for top 6 scoring on the wing and at centre, so it makes sense to pick a forward this year and hope that player walks into the lineup on the second line. You balance out that cap hit by signing a first line player in free agency to play on the 1st line.

Draft a player with your top 10 pick, sign Lucic in the off season and you basically have a re-made forward lineup.

[the_only_turek_fan]

I rather sign Backes than Lucic. Milan seems unstable.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

I rather sign Backes than Lucic. Milan seems unstable.

I love unstable.

[David Struch]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

Gaudreau-Monahan-_______
_________-Bennett-________
Colborne-Backlund-Frolik
Bouma-Jooris-Ferland
Bollig/Stajan

Some potential candidates may include: signing a UFA, our 2016 1st rounder, Hunter Shinkaruk, Emile Poirier or even Kenny Agostino and after some time in the AHL... Morgan Klimchuk, Mark Jankowski, Brett Pollock and Andrew Mangiapane.

[killer_carlson]

If the organization has decided to move on from Ortio, I wonder if he is an option for the NYI?

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

I love unstable.

Every group needs a wildcard.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

If the organization has decided to move on from Ortio, I wonder if he is an option for the NYI?

Jf Berube had a good showing recently. I can't see nyi picking up any of our goalies. Snow will ride his tandem and that will be the hill he dies on. Believe they will miss the playoffs as a result but they can blame it on the injury to Halak.

[Demetric]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

I rather sign Backes than Lucic. Milan seems unstable.

you will not get Backes on a contract number that will fit with this group. For Top End FW I am hoping for Okposo or Lucic, but will also be hard if not impossible to get either one on a contract that is not cringe worthy

But realistically I think Perron would be just what the doctor ordered for this team. Should be able to get him on a similar contract to what he currently has and would be top 6 RW

Secondary options would be PA Parenteau as I think could sign to a 1 year deal and flip at deadline if needed.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

I rather sign Backes than Lucic. Milan seems unstable.

In that regard Backes is pretty much the same just a bit more under the radar. He's a loose cannon himself.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Demetric

you will not get Backes on a contract number that will fit with this group. For Top End FW I am hoping for Okposo or Lucic, but will also be hard if not impossible to get either one on a contract that is not cringe worthy

But realistically I think Perron would be just what the doctor ordered for this team. Should be able to get him on a similar contract to what he currently has and would be top 6 RW

Secondary options would be PA Parenteau as I think could sign to a 1 year deal and flip at deadline if needed.

Why aim so low? Ideally we add a legit 1st liner or we add a top two line forward with size, strength, and physicality. Perron is averaged sized and a 2nd liner. He does bring an agitating, pest like quality that we could use but he's going to be overpaid just like the 1st liners and the bigger guys so why don't we aim higher and actually try to fit our needs better?

If we move Wideman we should have a decent amount of money to work with.

Guys that I'd prefer over Perron/Parenteau include Stamkos, Lucic, Backes (move him back to RW), Okposo, Eriksson, E. Staal (have him on RW), Ladd and McGinn. Not sure how many of those are realistic but that's what the new UFA courting period is for. I'd rather pay big dollars to a guy who really fits our needs than slightly less big dollars for guys who don't quite tick all the boxes (Perron/Parenteau).

[ComixZone]

Lucic and Reimer should absolutely be our targets on July 1st.

Reimer - no cost to us outside of cap-space, which is very important with the looming expansion draft. In summer 2017, we can expose Reimer and protect Gillies. If we trade for a goalie, we'll have sunk assets into a player that we may then have to either expose to the expansion draft, or force us to expose Gillies.

Lucic - he's absolutely what we need. His size, skill and aggression fit what we need perfectly.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Lucic and Reimer should absolutely be our targets on July 1st.

Reimer - no cost to us outside of cap-space, which is very important with the looming expansion draft. In summer 2017, we can expose Reimer and protect Gillies. If we trade for a goalie, we'll have sunk assets into a player that we may then have to either expose to the expansion draft, or force us to expose Gillies.

Lucic - he's absolutely what we need. His size, skill and aggression fit what we need perfectly.

Unless you can get Lucic to play RW which I don't think he has ever done he is not what we need as much as the same thing on RW. Not sure I am ok with paying a 2nd line LW 7M when we also have to ink Monny and Johnny.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Lucic and Reimer should absolutely be our targets on July 1st.

Reimer - no cost to us outside of cap-space, which is very important with the looming expansion draft. In summer 2017, we can expose Reimer and protect Gillies. If we trade for a goalie, we'll have sunk assets into a player that we may then have to either expose to the expansion draft, or force us to expose Gillies.

Lucic - he's absolutely what we need. His size, skill and aggression fit what we need perfectly.

I don't get the Bishop and Andersson fascination either.

They are going to cost multiple pieces for us to obtain.

The UFA market is going to be soft for Reimer and he is a good goalie. .914 career save percentage on a terrible Leafs team, and he has looked great for the Sharks so far.

Still only 28 years old too so getting right into the prime age for a goaltender.