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View Poll Results: Which Goalie Do You Most Want To See The Flames Add For Next Season?
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Antti Raanta
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25 |
7.06% |
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Ben Bishop
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91 |
25.71% |
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Frederik Andersen
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101 |
28.53% |
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Darcy Kuemper
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5 |
1.41% |
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James Reimer
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72 |
20.34% |
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Jhonas Enroth
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0.28% |
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Cam Ward
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3 |
0.85% |
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Karri Ramo
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2 |
0.56% |
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Al Montoya
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4 |
1.13% |
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Jimmy Howard
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4 |
1.13% |
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Kari Lehtonen
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4 |
1.13% |
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Michael Hutchinson
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4 |
1.13% |
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Other
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38 |
10.73% |
03-20-2016, 12:13 PM
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#61
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
To be honest, I'm kind of afraid that Burke has an irrationally high opinion of Reimer. In Toronto, he was always set on Reimer being the future starter.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, as I could have the timelines mixed up, but I believe Burke actually brought in Bernier to be the #1 in Toronto, over Reimer.
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03-20-2016, 12:14 PM
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#62
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by The Fonz
Correct me if I'm wrong, as I could have the timelines mixed up, but I believe Burke actually brought in Bernier to be the #1 in Toronto, over Reimer.
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That was Nonis.
Nonis took over in January 2013, and traded for Bernier in June of 2013.
Last edited by Roof-Daddy; 03-20-2016 at 12:16 PM.
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03-20-2016, 12:28 PM
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#63
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
Might as wel re-sign Ramo then. A 1B goalie to Ortio? If Ortio is our 1A goalie this team is already doomed for next season
Flames have 4 picks in the top 60 they have the assets to pull off a trade
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Why would be doomed if Ortio is our 1A? Since he's been called up he's been as good as you can expect a goalie to be. If people are still blaming Ortio and Ramo (post ahl stint) for this teams woes they need to open their eyes. Hiller was genuinely bad but Hartleys system is the real issue. Put any goalie in net behind Hartleys spastic system and I'm sure they wouldn't look much better than Ortio has recently.
I'd rather not waste picks when the cupboards on the farm are completely lacking.
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03-20-2016, 12:39 PM
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#64
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Calgary via Palm Desert
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Marc-Andre Fleury.
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Ya don't see Pits getting rid of him he's having a great year
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03-20-2016, 12:42 PM
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#65
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Calgary via Palm Desert
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Originally Posted by getbak
I don't know if he's who I want, but I think it will be Reimer.
My dream scenario is: Jones struggles in the first couple playoff games, so they put Reimer in. Reimer has an incredible playoff run and takes the Sharks to the finals. The Sharks can't let Reimer go after he becomes a folk-hero in Silicon Valley, so they give him a big-long contract. The Sharks then put Jones on the trade block and the Flames get him.
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Jones was right under our noses and we didn't take him. That boat has long sailed away
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03-20-2016, 12:50 PM
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#66
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
I think that the Flames will be hard pressed to sign a UFA goalie.... they would have to overpay
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Why would we have to overpay? There aren't many teams looking for #1 goalies, only 2-3 of them. Overpayments happen when there is high demand and low supply. This summer there will be several goalies available and only a few teams shopping, not a recipe for overpayments.
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03-20-2016, 03:09 PM
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#67
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Why would we have to overpay? There aren't many teams looking for #1 goalies, only 2-3 of them. Overpayments happen when there is high demand and low supply. This summer there will be several goalies available and only a few teams shopping, not a recipe for overpayments.
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Exactly... in fact, if we truly believe in our scouting and we're willing to gamble a little this is the time to land a big fish for cheap. This article sheds some light on what it takes to get that opportunity to cross the stigma of being a career backup to make starter money re: Enroth ( click continue reading for the gist):
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2...cnM/story.html
Get to the end, a lot of guys will be looking for work in actuality.
Last edited by Dr. Doom; 03-20-2016 at 03:12 PM.
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03-20-2016, 03:13 PM
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#68
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I'd have Ramo and Ortio back on 1 year contracts next year. I'd try to trade for a #1 closer to the expansion draft. Teams may be more willing to make a trade.
I'm also not impressed with any of the UFA options this year. Maybe next year with Bishop we could afford a decent offer, but I wouldn't trade for him.
Last edited by Zoller; 03-20-2016 at 03:18 PM.
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03-20-2016, 03:57 PM
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#69
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by polak
Why would be doomed if Ortio is our 1A? Since he's been called up he's been as good as you can expect a goalie to be. If people are still blaming Ortio and Ramo (post ahl stint) for this teams woes they need to open their eyes. Hiller was genuinely bad but Hartleys system is the real issue. Put any goalie in net behind Hartleys spastic system and I'm sure they wouldn't look much better than Ortio has recently.
I'd rather not waste picks when the cupboards on the farm are completely lacking.
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An NHL team that claims the playoffs are the goal every season simply can not go into next season with Ramo and Ortio as its NHL goalies.
Yes both looked like respectable NHL goalies during their best stretches. And both had stretches where they clearly belonged in the AHL. In Ortio's case, make that ECHL.
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03-20-2016, 11:01 PM
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#70
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In the Sin Bin
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Reimer with his second shutout in four games with the Sharks. Looks pretty good behind a defence that isn't the Leafs. He sure is looking like a potential option for us.
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03-20-2016, 11:04 PM
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#71
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
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Originally Posted by Zoller
I'd have Ramo and Ortio back on 1 year contracts next year. I'd try to trade for a #1 closer to the expansion draft. Teams may be more willing to make a trade.
I'm also not impressed with any of the UFA options this year. Maybe next year with Bishop we could afford a decent offer, but I wouldn't trade for him.
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Not going to happen. You know how bad that would look on Treliving if they bombed? He'd never put himself in a situation like that, he's too smart.
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03-20-2016, 11:04 PM
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#72
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Reimer with his second shutout in four games with the Sharks. Looks pretty good behind a defence that isn't the Leafs. He sure is looking like a potential option for us.
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After the whole expansion draft potentially being in 2017, I hope the Flames sign this guy. I was all in for Andersen but no need to waste assets and potentially lose him or Gillies at the end of the season. Reimer @ $3-5-4.5/2 years, Ortio as backup.
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03-20-2016, 11:12 PM
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#73
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Why would we have to overpay? There aren't many teams looking for #1 goalies, only 2-3 of them. Overpayments happen when there is high demand and low supply. This summer there will be several goalies available and only a few teams shopping, not a recipe for overpayments.
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Really which #1 Goalies are available ?
If they are not UFA's why are the available? If they are UFAs why would they think that the best place for them to succeed would be in Calgary where team defense is a secondary concern.
Basically the same concept as Dubnyk.... The Flames would have had to pay a lot more than the Wild to get him as a UFA last season , The Flames had to way overpay to get Ramo to come back. Dubnyk took less to play with the Wild because he was successful in their system.
Why in the world would Reimer choose to play in Calgary rather than stay in San Jose?
Last edited by ricardodw; 03-20-2016 at 11:30 PM.
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03-20-2016, 11:35 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
Really which #1 Goalies are available ?
If they are not UFA's why are the available? If they are UFAs why would they think that the best place for them to succeed would be in Calgary where team defense is a secondary concern.
Basically the same concept as Dubnyk.... The Flames would have had to pay a lot more than the Wild to get him as a UFA last season , The Flames had to way overpay to get Ramo to come back. Dubnyk took less to play with the Wild because he was successful in their system.
Why in the world would Reimer choose to play in Calgary rather than stay in San Jose?
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I am not advcating bringing in Reimer by any stretch but are you suggesting he would prefer being a backup in San Jose vs. starter in Calgary? The money would not be even close if the Flames truly want him as a starter.
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03-21-2016, 12:07 AM
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#75
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
Really which #1 Goalies are available ?
If they are not UFA's why are the available?
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Reread this thread carefully if you don't understand which goalies may be available and why.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
If they are UFAs why would they think that the best place for them to succeed would be in Calgary where team defense is a secondary concern.
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Team defence is a primary concern here.
Goalies prefer to be starters rather than backups.
Calgary is one of 2 to 3 teams in the league with an available starting job.
The others are CAR and TOR and neither are very good.
Therefore this is one of the most attractive options for a goalie who wants to start.
Therefore this is one of the most attractive options for all the UFA goalies.
Pretty simple stuff, very confusing that you can't follow along.
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
Why in the world would Reimer choose to play in Calgary rather than stay in San Jose?
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Because a goalie would rather be a starter and SJ's starter is Martin Jones.
It's mind-blowing how you don't understand the simplest concepts in hockey.
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03-21-2016, 08:12 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Team defence is a primary concern here.
Pretty simple stuff, very confusing that you can't follow along.
It's mind-blowing how you don't understand the simplest concepts in hockey.
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It is very interesting the alternative universe you have chosen for yourself.
Calgary #10 in the league in goals scored. #1 in the league in goals given up.
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03-21-2016, 08:20 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
It is very interesting the alternative universe you have chosen for yourself.
Calgary #10 in the league in goals scored. #1 in the league in goals given up.
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Could the terrible goaltending have anything to do with that?
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03-21-2016, 08:29 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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Would Reimer be interested in a 1 year/$5M deal in order to avoid being drafted in the expansion draft??
Calgary is likely a good landing spot for him as there is a place available and the team has the potential to compete next season. Would also allow him to raise his value and get true number 1 $$.
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03-21-2016, 08:43 AM
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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If they truly feel Gillies will be the guy, then I guess ideally you want a goalie that can step in and get you some wins but you'd be comfortable with exposing to the expansion draft. So no one you'd want to spend considerable assets/money on or sign to a long term deal. For those reasons I would go with someone like Ward. But because young goalies are a crapshoot and Gillies is just as likely to be a bust then you might want someone who can be the man regardless and if you lose Gillies to the expansion draft it doesn't hurt as much. Thats where I'm not sure. Reimer or Andersen likely fit the bill. My vote goes to Reimer. I think he checks all the boxes.
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03-21-2016, 09:06 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
It is very interesting the alternative universe you have chosen for yourself.
Calgary #10 in the league in goals scored. #1 in the league in goals given up.
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You could have the best 6 defenders in NHL history in their prime as defenders but if I'm in net, the other team is going to score a lot. This year the Flames had goal tending that would be just above what someone from CP could do. The team let in so many goals because the goal tending was the worst in the league by far. Wasn't the Flames save% the lowest in the league? That really shows that the goalies were the issue, not the D. And as for the D playing bad, when so many bad goals go in it makes the D look bad. You can't expect the team to not allow a single shot every game and that's the only way you could have improved the goal tending this year.
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