2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors v2

[AcGold]

No it's I like my own face and don't care in real time

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

but not for our top six though.

Stewart isn't anywhere near a top 6 player. At this point he's Bollig with flashes of Bouma.

I'd take a gamble unless they can find better options of course. Like I said, one year deal with low cap hit.

Most likely he's a bottom six grinder with size and toughness that makes the Flames harder to play against.
Best case, he has a resurgence and helps this team get back to the playoffs, or is a deadline trade away for an asset.
Worst case, he gets demoted to the AHL and plays out his one year in Stockton.

Nothing to lose really, if he'll sign a cheap one year deal.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I'd take a gamble unless they can find better options of course. Like I said, one year deal with low cap hit.

Most likely he's a bottom six grinder with size and toughness that makes the Flames harder to play against.
Best case, he has a resurgence and helps this team get back to the playoffs, or is a deadline trade away for an asset.
Worst case, he gets demoted to the AHL and plays out his one year in Stockton.

Nothing to lose really, if he'll sign a cheap one year deal.

Stewart is going to be signing a PTO this off season. He is looking more like a meh 4th line player. Flames have a couple of Stockton boys ready for 4th line duties.

Don't have a problem if they sign Stewart to a PTO and he shows he can be a 2-3 line player. Anything less than that give it to a stockton boy.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by AcGold

No it's I like my own face and don't care in real time

You so jelly bro

[Fire of the Phoenix]

I would sew his face onto my face, that's just a given

[Caged Great]

I would be fine with Colborne on a 3 X 2.0-2.5 million dollar contract. Think of what Mason Raymond got paid and his production in the season prior to him coming to Calgary. Colborne is bringing what Raymond should have and is a quality 3rd line player. He's not perfect by any stretch, but he is decent.

I would try very hard to sign the two Blues that are UFA, Backes and Brouwer. A 4 X 5 deal for Backes and a 4 X 4 for Brouwer would solidify the right side. Backes does play Center, but he could slide over to RW. Both are 30/31, so a 4 year deal would be perfect for each guy.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Backes
Colborne-Backlund-Frolik
Bouma-Bennett-Brouwer
Ferland-Stajan-Jooris

Giordano-Brodie
Jokipakka-Hamilton
Wideman-Engelland
Nakladal

Goalies

As is, that team would likely come out to about 71-73 million depending on the cost of the UFA goalies.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

I would be fine with Colborne on a 3 X 2.0-2.5 million dollar contract. Think of what Mason Raymond got paid and his production in the season prior to him coming to Calgary. Colborne is bringing what Raymond should have and is a quality 3rd line player. He's not perfect by any stretch, but he is decent.

I would try very hard to sign the two Blues that are UFA, Backes and Brouwer. A 4 X 5 deal for Backes and a 4 X 4 for Brouwer would solidify the right side. Backes does play Center, but he could slide over to RW. Both are 30/31, so a 4 year deal would be perfect for each guy.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Backes
Colborne-Backlund-Frolik
Bouma-Bennett-Brouwer
Ferland-Stajan-Jooris

Giordano-Brodie
Jokipakka-Hamilton
Wideman-Engelland
Nakladal

Goalies

As is, that team would likely come out to about 71-73 million depending on the cost of the UFA goalies.

I'd rather us get Okposo and Perron IMO.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I'd rather us get Okposo and Perron IMO.

Okposo is only 6-0 and both guys I suggested have more of a physical element to their game with Backes being more likely to be able to protect Gaudreau. Okposo is more skilled, and I wouldn't complain if that was how it shakes out.

Perron is too passive in my opinion, it would pretty much be like replacing Hudler with a similar profile guy. Plus I think Anaheim is going to try their best to keep him due to his chemistry with their guys. Brouwer has won a cup before and the Flames did attempt to acquire him before when he was dealt to the Capitals from the Hawks.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

I would sew his face onto my face, that's just a given

I wouldn't. They say I have 'Rugged good looks".

You know the type.

Start with Armalis. Then have an entire hockey team pummeling my face. Then have the Zamboni drive over it a few times. Maybe the visiting team's bus too.

Yep, I look just like Armalis.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I'd rather us get Okposo and Perron IMO.

Backes >> okposo

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I wouldn't. They say I have 'Rugged good looks".

You know the type.

Start with Armalis. Then have an entire hockey team pummeling my face. Then have the Zamboni drive over it a few times. Maybe the visiting team's bus too.

Yep, I look just like Armalis.

Lol I was just joking. I'm way better looking.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Backes >> okposo

But Backes is 4 years older at 31, and also a C not a RW like Okposo.

Okposo has 175 points in his last 3 seasons (199 games) for 0.88 PPG.
Backes has 154 points in his last 3 seasons (227 games) for 0.68 PPG.

I'd definitely prefer Okposo.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by AC

But Backes is 4 years older at 31, and also a C not a RW like Okposo.

Okposo has 175 points in his last 3 seasons (199 games) for 0.88 PPG.
Backes has 154 points in his last 3 seasons (227 games) for 0.68 PPG.

I'd definitely prefer Okposo

I don't watch enough Islander games - just a handful every season.

Islander fans are convinced that whomever gets Okposo will be disappointed, as they expect him to sign north of 6.5 with term, but appears to take long stretches of games off. They would rather their management group not re-sign him.

Personally, I would be ok with Okposo (depending on the term). I think he would do well on the Flames, and I think he would maybe be a bit less inconsistent (if he really is) on the Flames.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by AC

But Backes is 4 years older at 31, and also a C not a RW like Okposo.

Okposo has 175 points in his last 3 seasons (199 games) for 0.88 PPG.
Backes has 154 points in his last 3 seasons (227 games) for 0.68 PPG.

I'd definitely prefer Okposo.

Isn't Backes a RW that was converted to C?

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I'd take a gamble unless they can find better options of course. Like I said, one year deal with low cap hit.

Most likely he's a bottom six grinder with size and toughness that makes the Flames harder to play against.
Best case, he has a resurgence and helps this team get back to the playoffs, or is a deadline trade away for an asset.
Worst case, he gets demoted to the AHL and plays out his one year in Stockton.

Nothing to lose really, if he'll sign a cheap one year deal.

Stewart sucks.

This post could be straight out of 2013 when it was being bantered about he might make a good reclamation project.

We've now seen several years and several teams of him floating around, being slow and inconsistent, and not putting up any meaningful numbers.

Big pass. That ship has sailed.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by AC

But Backes is 4 years older at 31, and also a C not a RW like Okposo.

Okposo has 175 points in his last 3 seasons (199 games) for 0.88 PPG.
Backes has 154 points in his last 3 seasons (227 games) for 0.68 PPG.

I'd definitely prefer Okposo.

How much of that difference in points is playing with Tavares? Hard to say. Put Backes on Tavares' RW and I think he'd rip it up too.

I think Backes can play RW. He's harder to play against and has a much more consistent effort level. He's quite physical and would give us that power forward RW.

I find Okloso underwhelming to the eye when I watch him. I think Backes is a more impactful player.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

How much of that difference in points is playing with Tavares? Hard to say. Put Backes on Tavares' RW and I think he'd rip it up too.

I think Backes can play RW. He's harder to play against and has a much more consistent effort level. He's quite physical and would give us that power forward RW.

I find Okloso underwhelming to the eye when I watch him. I think Backes is a more impactful player.

Same here. He's good, but there's just something about him that reminds me somewhat of Tomas Vanek (in terms of consistency rather than style of play).

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

I would try very hard to sign the two Blues that are UFA, Backes and Brouwer. A 4 X 5 deal for Backes and a 4 X 4 for Brouwer would solidify the right side. Backes does play Center, but he could slide over to RW. Both are 30/31, so a 4 year deal would be perfect for each guy.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Backes
Colborne-Backlund-Frolik
Bouma-Bennett-Brouwer
Ferland-Stajan-Jooris

I really disagree with signing Backes, even though I like him. Firstly he is going to want more than $5M. Secondly he's too old - he's the kind of player that an established contender adds as a final piece for a playoff run for a year or two, not as a rebuilding team with a young core pushing to become a consistent playoff team. Backes is going to become less effective every year and I really think we'd regret that contract. Okposo makes way more sense, no he's not as big but he's younger and produces more.

Also not to nit pick your lineup but ideally Backlund/Frolik/Colborne are your checking line (with offensive upside), and Bouma/Brouwer are on the 4th line. Brouwer has scored 20 goals a few times but similar to Backes he's going to become less effective every year. Your forward group is missing an entire "2nd" offensive line with Bennett as the C on it. IMO of course.

[Imported_Aussie]

This is the danger of relying on UFA to fill big holes in your lineup - players that get there either have enough warts that their current team is moving on, or they end up overpriced, either in cap hit or term.

I too am leery of Okposo - he seems like a real threat to be overpaid, and you have to wonder how much he is inflated by playing with Tavares. I personally don't think the Monahan line needs a big time RW - Gaudreau can make anyone look good. I think what they need on that line more than anything is someone who plays a simple north-south game, can convert scoring chances, and who doesn't need to have the puck often to be effective. You could even put a guy like Brouwer on that line and he may be able to click. Main problem with that line is that away from home, they don't produce (usually) as much, and that goes back to when Hudler was there too - they always looked dangerous going forward, but were built more like a PP unit than a balanced line.

Personally, I think more emphasis this year should be on finding who to play with Bennett, as I see a few combinations developing on this team, but none around Bennett as a centre

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Okay, I hope the Leafs sign him, because Blue Steel!

Dude, that's clearly Magnum.