[PGT] Flames 4. Habs 1. Backstrom solid in Flames debut

[Komskies]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Was anyone watching the beginning of the Oilers game when McDavid was coming down on a 2 on 1 and the Oilers play by play guy literally just shouted "LOOK!!!". Hey dude, you're a play by play guy not a drunk fan shouting out to your buddy.

So glad we have Rick Ball.

It was even more embarrassing and cringe-worthy than that. I think he said something like "Here comes the next generation!!"

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

shots fired?

Kristen Odland @Kristen_Odland
Hamilton on Backstrom's performance: “It’s an easy game when you expect him to save the pucks."

Kristen Odland @Kristen_Odland
"For us as D-men back there, you don’t have to worry about him back there and it makes it easier for us.”

Wow, that's a non-confidence vote for our goaltenders. Hamilton drove the bus over three guys there.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by New Era

Wow, that's a non-confidence vote for our goaltenders. Hamilton drove the bus over three guys there.

I wouldn't say it's against all 3. Ortio has been good lately, and Ramo was pretty good for most of his season.

[Komskies]

Originally Posted by AC

I'm a fan of this list of top goal scorers from the 2011, 2012, and 2013 drafts.

Landeskog 	97 (2011)
Monahan 	79 (2013)
Saad 		76 (2011)
Nugent-Hopkins 	75 (2011)
Galchenyuk 	68 (2012)
Shaw 		67 (2011)
Kucherov 	64 (2011)
MacKinnon 	59 (2013)
Forsberg 	56 (2012)
Yakupov 	48 (2012)
Barkov 		47 (2013)
Hertl 		45 (2012)
Lindholm 	35 (2013)

Monahan is also 2 goals behind Doug Gilmour for 39th all-time in Flames history.

You're missing Johnny Gaudreau ahead of Yakupov...

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by New Era

Wow, that's a non-confidence vote for our goaltenders. Hamilton drove the bus over three guys there.

Not nessesarily over all three, but hell, I like that he said it

[AC]

Originally Posted by Komskies

You're missing Johnny Gaudreau ahead of Yakupov...

Good call, I expanded the list of the 2011 draftees on the list since there were several 50+.

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by codynw

I wouldn't say it's against all 3. Ortio has been good lately, and Ramo was pretty good for most of his season.

Mark me down for the category where he ran the bus over all three. Ortio may be playing better but the team still doesn't play confident in front of him. They are not expecting him to make the saves.

This lays right at the feet of the GM who failed to make a move. The players know it and the coach knows it. They were hung out on a limb with terrible goaltending all year.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Be interesting to see how Hiller does against the Marlies tomorrow

Like the table top G he has looked like most of the year.









Dude is so stiff and unathletic this season, its bizarre.

[Roof-Daddy]

Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong, because I just looked quickly, but I'm pretty sure Johnny's 0.90 career points per game is better than any player drafted since 2009. Tavares and his 0.92 has him beat.

Even beats Tarasenko and Hall.



Well almost any player, as McDavid has 39 points in 37 games. Puke.

[drewtastic]

Fire helmet pics...?

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

Mark me down for the category where he ran the bus over all three. Ortio may be playing better but the team still doesn't play confident in front of him. They are not expecting him to make the saves.

This lays right at the feet of the GM who failed to make a move. The players know it and the coach knows it. They were hung out on a limb with terrible goaltending all year.

Our Defense is also miles ahead without Wideman and Russell. We needed more size back there and that's what we have now. BT was the one that brought Kevin and Nakladal in who were great pick-ups. He gets an Failing mark for the goaltending this year but if he even gets a B next year for bringing in quality goaltending we are in the playoffs.

[Huntingwhale]

Backstrom looked extremely solid. Too bad he couldn't get the shut out. A shame he's not about 8 year younger.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Backstrom looked extremely solid. Too bad he couldn't get the shut out. A shame he's not about 8 year younger.

Who knows. Maybe they offer him a try out at camp. It would be cool to see him at his age pull a Tim Thomas .

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by New Era

Wow, that's a non-confidence vote for our goaltenders. Hamilton drove the bus over three guys there.

That's good. The quality of our goaltending this season should be completely unacceptable to anyone in our organization. Even having just average goaltending would have us in a playoff spot right now instead of debating which lottery pick prospect we're going to add.

All three of them have been terrible with only short flashes of competency from either Ortio or Ramo. It has been Anders Eriksson level quality all year.

If you had the Flames goalies combining for a .918 sv% (which would rank 20th among goalies in the league), the Flames would have surrendered 171 goals with the goalies in net. That's 37 fewer goals against. That's one every other game. That's likely enough for the Flames to have 7-8 more wins. Our goal differential would be pretty much equivalent to Anaheim's (better than NSH/COL/MIN/STL).

Since the start of March, the Flames are averaging 2.7 goals against per game, which is down by .46 goals per game, which is a vast improvement. In those games, the Flames a 5-3-2. The team itself isn't bad. The bottom 4 defensemen (except Engelland) + goaltending have been. Not much you can do though right now. Just have to fix those things in the offseason.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Too old, garbage player, past his prime, need 21-year old goaltender to get wins.

Did anyone say that about Backstrom or you making up crap AGAIN?

Everyone knew he was promised couple stars in a lost season, don't think I've read a single complaint about that.

[TheScorpion]

Was rocking the Jones jersey down at Olympic Plaza tonight - my takeaways from the Hometown Hockey production:

- The emcees they had down there were... alright. I was also at the NHL FaceOff in October which was an NHL event, and it was a stellar production. This wasn't as good.
- Ron MacLean was a class act, as usual. They had a lot of former Flames down there, too.
- Backstrom played lights-out. Monahamilton was even better.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by New Era

Wow, that's a non-confidence vote for our goaltenders. Hamilton drove the bus over three guys there.

To be fair, the guy was probably used to playing in front of Vezina-calibre Tuukka Rask. His first month here he must have been thinking WTF is wrong with our goaltenders...

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by New Era

Wow, that's a non-confidence vote for our goaltenders. Hamilton drove the bus over three guys there.

You are reading way too much into that comment.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Too old, garbage player, past his prime, need 21-year old goaltender to get wins.

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

Did anyone say that about Backstrom or you making up crap AGAIN?

Everyone knew he was promised couple stars in a lost season, don't think I've read a single complaint about that.

I don't think his post fit any sort of reality of the Backstrom situation. He is too old, nobody said he was garbage, clearly he IS past his prime, and nobody said we needed a 21 year old goalie to get wins.

It was an odd post, as I think most fans, coaches and media understand exactly why Backstrom is here. We're not hoping he finds his form and answers our goaltending questions for next year and beyond, neither is anyone upset or pissed off that he's getting the starts he was promised. If anything most have been appreciative that the organization is doing a classy thing that will get noticed around the league and help us in future transactions.

OzyFlame's post seems like he just pulled out a bunch of sports clichés for older players and threw them back in CP's face, lol.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

If you had the Flames goalies combining for a .918 sv% (which would rank 20th among goalies in the league), the Flames would have surrendered 171 goals with the goalies in net. That's 37 fewer goals against. That's one every other game. That's likely enough for the Flames to have 7-8 more wins. Our goal differential would be pretty much equivalent to Anaheim's (better than NSH/COL/MIN/STL).

Hiller, Ramo and Ortio are killing us.