The New American Politics thread

[HockeyIlliterate]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I don't mind Hillary as a candidate, but holy moly she needs to stop yelling.

She's never realized that the microphone works.

As an aside, am I the only one who thinks that the 20-ish girl just to the right of Hillary's shoulder looks like Bristol Palin?

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

But he can't win enough votes with Cruz and Drumpf combined getting 70% of the vote. Winning Ohio was always about the delegates and a convention, maybe he'll take a run at a few upcoming states but as much as he's a decent candidate (relatively speaking as always), I don't see him appealing much in the remaining states.

New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, possibly much of New England, Oregon, Washington, California... He could well end up above 300 delegates.

[HockeyIlliterate]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

The convention is still such a mystery as to how it will work. In theory Rubio could come back into play then as the establishment choice, or Romney could jump in. I would think Rubio/Kasich ticket is the preferred establishment choice if they can control the convention.

Rubio won't be at the top of the ticket.

Kasich-Rubio maybe, but even that is a long shot, and I think most GOP'ers wouldn't go for it.

[Senator Clay Davis]

As I said earlier we'd better at least get a convention. If this clown show doesn't produce a potentially ridiculous ending it'll be a disappointment.

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

The convention is still such a mystery as to how it will work. In theory Rubio could come back into play then as the establishment choice, or Romney could jump in. I would think Rubio/Kasich ticket is the preferred establishment choice if they can control the convention.

In theory yes, he can un-suspend his campaign, but I imagine Rubio will hope/instruct his delegates to go for Kasich. You could end up where Kasich has ~700 combined delegates, Cruz maybe 900, and Trump over 1000, and it just turns into a bloodbath.

Problem is any scenario where Trump has 1,000 - 1,100 delegates and gets canned at the convention runs the risk of him running as a third party.

His argument, and its a good one, is that Trump is the people choice (at this point) given how many more votes he has than anyone else. Getting in shady delegate dealings can make a mess for the party.

[troutman]

Hello Mrs. Kasich!

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by troutman

Hello Mrs. Kasich!

She's 16, so I'll reserve judgement. But at inauguration I'll let you know

[HockeyIlliterate]

I like Kasich, but good golly gosh can he ramble on and on.

[Ducay]

I didn't think anyone's speech could be longer and more boring than Rubio's, but wow, Kasich really killing the buzz

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

As I said earlier we'd better at least get a convention. If this clown show doesn't produce a potentially ridiculous ending it'll be a disappointment.

There's no mileage to two establishment guys on the same ticket, you take your best establishment bet then add Trump lite, Carson or the woman as VP in an attempt to hold some of the anti establishment or fundie right wing vote.

If they didn't hate him so much Cruz, but they would piss on him if he was on fire.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by Ducay

In theory yes, he can un-suspend his campaign, but I imagine Rubio will hope/instruct his delegates to go for Kasich. You could end up where Kasich has ~700 combined delegates, Cruz maybe 900, and Trump over 1000, and it just turns into a bloodbath.

Problem is any scenario where Trump has 1,000 - 1,100 delegates and gets canned at the convention runs the risk of him running as a third party.

His argument, and its a good one, is that Trump is the people choice (at this point) given how many more votes he has than anyone else. Getting in shady delegate dealings can make a mess for the party.

I think it makes sense for Rubio to not tell his delegates to do anything right now... there's no need to act on it until the convention.

However, here's the wrinkle: for many of the states where Rubio has gotten delegates, the actual delegates have not been picked, and if Rubio's suspended his campaign, these delegates are going to be picked knowing that they are essentially going onto the convention as free agents.
By many accounts, Cruz has been the best candidate at ground-gaming delegates, and if he can influence the actual delegate-picking, then as soon as Rubio releases them, he could have a secret army of his own delegates ready to declare for him on the first ballot of the convention.
Of course, the state-level establishment has the most influence on the delegate-picking process, and they're going to be trying to put establishment friendly delegates in play.
This fight for Rubio's existing delegates is going to be really interesting.

[Senator Clay Davis]

"It's his (Barron Trump) birthday Sunday, and we're very happy for him" - Trump's 40 word vocabulary.

[Jiggy_12]

Great. Wonderful. Amazing. Incredible. Tremendous.

It's adjective roulette. Just picks one of those 5 for every sentence.

[Senator Clay Davis]

His ability to start on something, and then stray off track into nothingness, is pretty hilarious.

[Regulator75]

[dino7c]

if Rubio dropped out earlier things would have looked much different tonight

[rubecube]

Good Lord, the man is basically an insecure, white-trash buffoon.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/16/us...ar-a-lago.html

He understands Mr. Drumpf’s sleeping patterns and how he likes his steak (“It would rock on the plate, it was so well done”),

Mr. Senecal knows how to stroke his ego and lift his spirits, like the time years ago he received an urgent warning from Mr. Drumpf’s soon-to-land plane that the mogul was in a sour mood. Mr. Senecal quickly hired a bugler to play “Hail to the Chief” as Mr. Drumpf stepped out of his limousine to enter Mar-a-Lago.

In the early years, Mr. Drumpf’s daughter Ivanka slept in the same children’s suite that Dina Merrill, an actress and a daughter of Mrs. Post, occupied in the 1930s. Mr. Drumpf liked to tell guests that the nursery rhyme-themed tiles in the room were made by a young Walt Disney.

“You don’t like that, do you?” Mr. Drumpf would say when he caught Mr. Senecal rolling his eyes. The house historian would protest that it was not true.

“Who cares?” Mr. Drumpf would respond with a laugh.

Mr. Drumpf is abundantly proud of his ability to drive a golf ball, once asking rhetorically during a news conference: “Do I hit it long? Is Drumpf strong?”

Mr. Senecal suggested that Mr. Drumpf was perhaps not quite as strong as he imagined, remembering times they would hit balls together from the Mar-a-Lago property into the Intracoastal Waterway.

“Tony, how far is that?” Mr. Drumpf would ask.

“It’s like 275 yards,” Mr. Senecal would respond, though he said the actual distance was 225 yards.

These days, what really seems to bug Mr. Drumpf is the sound of planes over the property. Whereas Mrs. Post ensured that the nearby airport would divert flights away from the estate during her stays, the same courtesy has not been extended to Mr. Drumpf, and the constant roar of engines “drives him nuts,” Mr. Senecal said.

“Tony,” Mr. Drumpf would often shout. “Call the tower!”

The candidate is suing the county-run airport. He has also sued the town in a dispute over the size of his estate’s flagpole; the size of the banquet hall he added to the property; and the size of the club, which, to frighten the local gentry, he once
threatened to sell to followers of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon.

Over the decades, he has grown close to the Drumpf family. He recalled how Mr. Drumpf’s father, Fred C. Drumpf, once stepped out of his limo on the club’s gravel driveway and remarked to Mr. Senecal, “Somebody better get that coin.” The butler went on his hands and knees and after a few minutes found a crusty penny.

“His eyes were incredible,” Mr. Senecal said of Fred Drumpf. “Mr. Drumpf has the same eyes.”

He also remembered Donald Drumpf’s young sons running through the library, paneled with centuries-old British oak and filled with rare first-edition books that no one in the family ever read. When the library became a bar, Mr. Drumpf put a portrait of himself on a wall, posing in tennis whites.

[octothorp]

Looks like Trump will still be more or less right on pace after tonight, so the question becomes whether one less candidate in the field is enough. It may come down to whether the anyone-but-Trump camp is truly able to go all in on strategic voting, as Trump's ceiling still looks to be around 40% and isn't going to get much higher with Rubio dropping out.

[dino7c]

Just looked on Trumps facebook page

stupid white people love this guy lol

"I seen this" "I seen that"

"I am 38 a voted for the first time today because Trump is so great and I want on the train"

"no taxes for those making under 25k"

quick scan of the profile pictures all white

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I just read that Anonymous is threatening to out Cruz's connection to prostitutes unless he drops out. Not sure if it is real or not though. Sorry if it was mentioned already.

Anonymous is the North Korea of the internet. If they ever actually acted on any of their threats maybe they'd start to be taken seriously