03-11-2016, 06:21 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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^ he has been awarded another assist its 1g 2a through 2 periods
He is on a 9 game point streak where he has 19 points in those 9 games.
6 straight games Mangiapane has scored 2 or more points.
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03-11-2016, 06:49 PM
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#182
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Wow... I think next year is gonna be one of the most competitive camps for the Flames, guys like Bollig and Stajan better watch out.. Not saying Mangiapane/Janko ect. are gonna steal spots but I think they are going to be very hungry to.
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03-11-2016, 07:22 PM
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#183
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Gene Pereira @GenePereira1
Mangiapane just 3 pts away from joining Labanc & Bryan Little as the only Colts in franchise history to record back-to-back 100-pt. seasons.
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03-12-2016, 12:19 AM
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#184
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Windsor
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Check out Mangiapanes linemate from last year, he was one of those OA we were talking about who came out of no where to put up big point totals.
He was written off by almost everyone, including me.
Rookie pro has 21 points in 24 games in the AHL. 14 points in 28 games in NHL. Pretty damn good!
Andrew Mangiapane is considered much better by Colts fans.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=139020
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03-12-2016, 12:21 AM
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#185
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Windsor
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I was also looking for other players that played a OA year in CHL and then had NHL career. I couldn't find any. That's not a great sign for Kanzig, Carroll, Culkin etc
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03-12-2016, 08:58 AM
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#186
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trailer Fire
Just looking at it, does it concern anyone else that Mangiapane was 1.52 PPG last season, and 1.57 PPG this season? Shouldn't we be seeing more progression and higher scoring?
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Just wanted to follow up on this (not attacking you here, just using it as a point of reference).
Since your post (Feb 10th): 14G, 18A, 32P in 14 games, 2.29 PPG
Overall now: 48G, 50A, 98P in 55 games, 1.78 PPG
Since Jan 16th, so almost 2 full months: 27G, 20A, 47P in 22 games, 2.14 PPG
The guy is on fire!
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03-12-2016, 09:10 AM
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#187
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: The Armpit of BC: Trail
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I don't know. I'm still concerned about his production...
Think it'll work twice?
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03-12-2016, 09:56 AM
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#188
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trailer Fire
I don't know. I'm still concerned about his production...
Think it'll work twice?
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Anyone else you're concerned about? Don't be shy!
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03-12-2016, 10:34 AM
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#189
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by druetetective
I was also looking for other players that played a OA year in CHL and then had NHL career. I couldn't find any. That's not a great sign for Kanzig, Carroll, Culkin etc
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Cracknell and Ferland off the top of my head. There must be more.
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03-12-2016, 11:17 AM
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#190
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: The Armpit of BC: Trail
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Originally Posted by edslunch
Anyone else you're concerned about? Don't be shy!
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Jankowski
Gilmour
Hickey
Poirier
Klimchuk
Smith
Gillies
Polluck
Karnuakhov
Kanzig
Harrison
McDonald
Shinkaruk
Sieloff
Andersson
Kylington
Bennett
Brodie
Gaudreau
Monahan
Ortio
Backlund
Frolik
Colborne
Ferland
Giordano
Hamilton
Jooris
Bollig
Engelland
Rafikov
Morrison
Hathaway
Kulak
Culkin
Agostino
Off the top of my head...
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03-12-2016, 11:21 AM
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#191
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Lifetime Suspension
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There is only so much progression one can make when you're putting up a point and a half per game.
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03-12-2016, 12:49 PM
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#192
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Windsor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Cracknell and Ferland off the top of my head. There must be more.
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Wow how did I forget Ferland.
Their might be some goalies plus a few more but it's definitely rare. I looked at a bunch of best overager lists (OHL) from 2005-2012 and none of them went on to make it.
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03-12-2016, 12:54 PM
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#193
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Windsor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by druetetective
Wow how did I forget Ferland.
Their might be some goalies plus a few more but it's definitely rare. I looked at a bunch of best overager lists (OHL) from 2005-2012 and none of them went on to make it.
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I got interested because Shark fans are having the same discussion we are about Mangiapane regarding Lebanc.
Some argue he is putting up the same numbers a Dvorak who is considered a legit A prospect and is only 2 months older. Others respond that he didn't break out until his 4th year of OHL eligibility and plenty of players like him went on to fail. Blandasi is the only one who has bucked the trend in the OHL apparently. Perhaps in the WHL it's more common.
Interesting stuff.
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03-12-2016, 01:04 PM
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#194
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
There is only so much progression one can make when you're putting up a point and a half per game.
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For sure. It's far, far easier to go from 1 PPG to 1.5 than to go from 1.5 to 2
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03-12-2016, 01:08 PM
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#195
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by druetetective
I was also looking for other players that played a OA year in CHL and then had NHL career. I couldn't find any. That's not a great sign for Kanzig, Carroll, Culkin etc
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Culkin didn't play an overage year in CHL. Although he did spend a season in the CHL that he was AHL-eligible for, that's not the same thing.
I think Tyler Johnson, Jake Muzzin, Joseph Blandisi, Ryan Callahan, Dennis Wideman, Alex Burrows played overage years.
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03-12-2016, 01:16 PM
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#196
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Culkin didn't play an overage year in CHL. Although him and Kulak did spend a season in the CHL that I think they were AHL eligible for, that's not the same thing.
I think Tyler Johnson, Jake Muzzin, Joseph Blandisi, Ryan Callahan, Dennis Wideman, Alex Burrows played overage years.
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Yeah, Culkin was an overager according to CHL rules which go from Jan. 1 to Dec.31. He has a late birthday (Dec.15) which delays his draft year but doesn't delay his CHL age status.
I think Giordano played his overage year as well.
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03-12-2016, 01:25 PM
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#197
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulcan
Yeah, Culkin was an overager according to CHL rules which go from Jan. 1 to Dec.31. He has a late birthday (Dec.15) which delays his draft year but doesn't delay his CHL age status.
I think Giordano played his overage year as well.
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Looks like you're right about both.
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03-12-2016, 01:35 PM
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#198
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Windsor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulcan
Yeah, Culkin was an overager according to CHL rules which go from Jan. 1 to Dec.31. He has a late birthday (Dec.15) which delays his draft year but doesn't delay his CHL age status.
I think Giordano played his overage year as well.
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Where up to 8 now so it has happened more than I thought.
Almost never with highly ranked prospects though (or highly drafted rather). I think Muzzin was the highest drafted and he was a 4th rounder.
I heard somewhere Bryan Marchment was the last 1st rounder to play an overage year. I wonder if that's true and how often 2nd rounders do it.
Thanks for the help guys.
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03-12-2016, 02:07 PM
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#199
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Franchise Player
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By the way... Mangiapane is 19, and this is only his 3rd season in the OHL
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03-12-2016, 02:41 PM
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#200
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by druetetective
I was also looking for other players that played a OA year in CHL and then had NHL career. I couldn't find any. That's not a great sign for Kanzig, Carroll, Culkin etc
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Culkin has showed promise at the AHL level. I would say Kanzig and Carroll are long shots.
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