03-09-2016, 12:31 PM
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#501
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Could Care Less
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Originally Posted by MattyC
How is it any different than support for sociopathic or psychotic people as a means to prevent any dangerous action they might commit?
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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds
We can provide effective medication for those people
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Originally Posted by MattyC
No clue. Never really researched it.
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I know this is weird because this exchange occured weeks ago. But I just wanted to chime in that yes indeed there is effective medication for people who have been diagnosed with schizoid disorders and psychosis. Just to clear that up haha
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03-09-2016, 12:37 PM
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#502
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by heep223
I know this is weird because this exchange occured weeks ago. But I just wanted to chime in that yes indeed there is effective medication for people who have been diagnosed with schizoid disorders and psychosis. Just to clear that up haha 
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Yeah I actually read that the other day and realized I misunderstood what 2StonedBirds said. I thought he was asking if there was (or a possibility for) medication for pedophilia.
My real response to what he actually said is that, yes, there is medication for those mental illnesses, and those were only discovered once we stopped calling those types of people witches and crazies and actually looked into what makes them tick.
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03-09-2016, 12:51 PM
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#503
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: BELTLINE
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There is a medication for pedophilia, its called chemical castration.
If that guy from the Salon article was serious in his desire to never act on his predalictions and that he would never have a normal relationship that's what he would do.
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03-09-2016, 12:55 PM
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#504
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Franchise Player
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You guys are insane. He has never committed a crime! He is actually showing a pretty level of philosophical self-awareness compared to some of you twits. He sees the evil in him, and refuses to act on it. We should commend him for his willpower and discipline!
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03-09-2016, 01:07 PM
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#505
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: BELTLINE
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Hire him as your babysitter then, he can teach your kids all about philosophical self-awareness.
I refuse to give people credit for things they're supposed to do. No credit for paying your taxes, no credit for being a present parent, and sure as #### no credit for not raping kids.
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03-09-2016, 01:18 PM
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#506
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
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Originally Posted by DiracSpike
Hire him as your babysitter then, he can teach your kids all about philosophical self-awareness.
I refuse to give people credit for things they're supposed to do. No credit for paying your taxes, no credit for being a present parent, and sure as #### no credit for not raping kids.
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You can't compare those things to this. That's stupid and disingenuous. No one is born with a strong urge to cheat on their taxes. This man was born with a strong desire to have sex with children. He refuses to act on it. Good god... no he's not a hero but I think he is very brave to come forward.
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03-09-2016, 03:46 PM
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#507
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
It really is an entertaining watch. I love how he is like, oh, I need a spoon. So I carved a spoon. Not to bad, if I do say so myself. I'm gonna need door hinges, so I cut some wood, and made them. I need to rip some boards out of this log. Saw saw saw. Dude didn't know the meaning of the word can't.
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The lock he built on the cabin was quite something.
"There. All done. Works slick as grease, that outta keep them pesky bears out Mmmmhmm."
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Originally Posted by Yamer
Even though he says he only wanted steak and potatoes, he was aware of all the rapes.
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03-10-2016, 10:42 PM
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#510
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Anyone still think there isn't a problem with political correctness run amok?
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In this case no. Fat doesn't equal unhealthy. A lot of problems have been caused by the bmi. And she also has a point in that many people would benefit more from counseling than from a well meaning doc telling them essentially what they already know and have failed at achieving.
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03-10-2016, 11:15 PM
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#511
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Yeah, you're right, it's clearly not the role of a medical expert to offer their medical opinion to a patient on that patient's health.
"Fat is healthy"? You're insane.
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03-10-2016, 11:19 PM
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#512
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Has political correctness really run amok? It doesn't seem like it.
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03-10-2016, 11:22 PM
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#513
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Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!
In this case no. Fat doesn't equal unhealthy. A lot of problems have been caused by the bmi. And she also has a point in that many people would benefit more from counseling than from a well meaning doc telling them essentially what they already know and have failed at achieving.
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If your doctor is looking only at your BMI and telling you to lose weight they are a ####ty doctor.
As someone who used to have major weight issues and now carries around a little extra weight (15ish pounds), I can tell you that no doctor every told me when I was a little "chubby" to lose weight.
I assume people being told to lose weight are obese and obesity has a tonne of issues. Heart disease, high blood pressure, weakened immune system, cholesterol.
I mean c'mon dude, being fat is a huge problem. Shaming isn't the right answer but people who are fat need to do something about it and it is most definitely not healthy.
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03-10-2016, 11:35 PM
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#514
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Yeah, you're right, it's clearly not the role of a medical expert to offer their medical opinion to a patient on that patient's health.
"Fat is healthy"? You're insane.
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He is right.
The entire discussion around the epidemic of overweight and obesity is corrupted by the BMI. It has created categorical fictions, and is used as a justification for all sorts of rubbish, from fad diets to restrictive eating disorders to fat shaming.
As for the latter, it's completely and utterly counterproductive, and frankly more indicative of flaws in the character of the person doing the shaming, rather than the shamee.
That much of the medical profession has bought into this oversimplified crap merely serves to demonstrate how deep-rooted and cultural the problem has become.
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03-10-2016, 11:36 PM
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#515
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Yeah, you're right, it's clearly not the role of a medical expert to offer their medical opinion to a patient on that patient's health.
"Fat is healthy"? You're insane.
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I specifically said fat does not equal unhealthy because it doesn't. So I'm not insane. You just can't read. And if you bother to look into this at all you'll find that health is way more complex then the amount of fat on your body. Obesity is less healthy but not to the extent people used to believe. And having your doctor tell you to lose weight is literally the least productive treatment available.
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03-10-2016, 11:56 PM
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#516
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Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!
I specifically said fat does not equal unhealthy because it doesn't. So I'm not insane. You just can't read.
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Or maybe I was referring to the specific thing I posted? Who can't read, now?
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And if you bother to look into this at all you'll find that health is way more complex then the amount of fat on your body. Obesity is less healthy but not to the extent people used to believe.
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Diabetes is healthy! Diabetes is beautiful!
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Originally Posted by jayswin
Has political correctness really run amok? It doesn't seem like it.
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If you pay any attention, it's getting out of hand, yes - this is an instance where someone thinks it's reasonable to demand that professionals to not do their job in health care in order to avoid hurting peoples' feelings. It's certainly the case with college professors. We've ventured fully into "goodfact vs. truefact" territory.
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03-11-2016, 12:08 AM
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#517
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Or maybe I was referring to the specific thing I posted? Who can't read, now?
Diabetes is healthy! Diabetes is beautiful!
If you pay any attention, it's getting out of hand, yes - this is an instance where someone thinks it's reasonable to demand that professionals to not do their job in health care in order to avoid hurting peoples' feelings. It's certainly the case with college professors. We've ventured fully into "goodfact vs. truefact" territory.
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Well then why did you type "you're" insane right after you typed "fat is healthy?"? I guess you meant "that other person who actually said that thing" is insane. What I said isn't really even close to fat is healthy. The person who did say is wrong, but is skirting around a very valid point. I get what she's saying and I agree.
Anyway, I'm not going to link anything for you, but just go read some things about obesity and best treatments. The good facts here suggest obesity isn't as unhealthy as you think and treating obesity is best accomplished outside an md's office.
Last edited by OMG!WTF!; 03-11-2016 at 12:12 AM.
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03-11-2016, 01:13 AM
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#519
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Jumping back in time to the pedophilia discussion, CBC has a great little video on the subject attached to this article.
It's a very interesting area, with a lot of difficult issues waiting to be worked out.
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03-11-2016, 07:23 AM
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#520
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Anyone still think there isn't a problem with political correctness run amok?

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I think its more a problem with social media. In the old days a person could only say stupid things in his/her own inner circle. Now they can make fools of themselves in front of everyone on the internet.
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