[News] Bettman upholds 20 game Wideman suspension. NHLPA files appeal to neutral arbitrator

[Locke]

I know my sarcasm detector isnt always powering away at 150% but I took that as a joke.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I am not sure what kind of loophole they would use - doubtful it would happen IF they even wanted that to happen.

On a side-note, the Flames have a good chance of having Wideman rebound a bit next season, and be able to trade him at the deadline.

I'm still hoping they can off-load him this summer. Unlike many I think he still has some value to the right team, especially if the Flames retain salary on him. Time will tell.

Hopefully next year the Flames aren't in a position to be sellers at the deadline, and I don't want Wideman taking minutes away from D-men like Wotherspoon, Jokipakka and Nakladal (if he re-signs).

Of course, I'm also hoping the Flames pull the trigger on bringing another stud top 4 d-man (Hamonic I'm looking at you) to solidify the top 4 as they start trending towards contender status.

[killer_carlson]

I don't want the Flames to acquire Harmonic if we offload Wideman.

I'd rather the Flames use an elite top 4 to elevate a prospect into 2nd pairing icetime (the way Pronger elevated MAB).

I'd much prefer the $$$ we spend on Wideman and Harmonic to be invested in a top line RW.

[saillias]

There is no R in his name. Think of him as a ham, not as a musical instrument

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

I don't want the Flames to acquire Harmonic if we offload Wideman.

I'd rather the Flames use an elite top 4 to elevate a prospect into 2nd pairing icetime (the way Pronger elevated MAB).

I'd much prefer the $$$ we spend on Wideman and Harmonic to be invested in a top line RW.

I get that, and would be OK with it as long it's possible. I really like our top 3 D-core, and the way Jokipakka has looked so far, maybe it's possible Brodie could elevate him I guess. Hamilton is too young for that and not ready to elevate anyone just yet, and Gio primarily plays the left side. Maybe Gio could elevate Nakladal?

Giordano - Hamilton
Jokipakka - Brodie

or..

TJ Brodie - Hamilton
Giordano - Nakladal

Looks OK, if JJ or Nak can be that guy.

I still drool at a top 4 of:

TJ Brodie - Hamonic
Giordano - Hamilton


That's just a ridiculous good mix IMO, and Hamonic isn't cap heavy, he's on a sweetheart deal.


Anyways, sorry for the de-rail.

[getbak]

Less than an hour before tonight's game, so I guess we won't be getting a ruling today.

19 down, one to go.

[FanIn80]

What an absolute pile of horse **** this whole thing has become.

[flamesfan1297]

Wow, what an absolute joke

[gilligans_off]

So does news come out today? Not that it even matters at this point other than to make a stand and line Wideman's wallet lol

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Dennis Wideman should just be damn grateful he plays for an organization that puts respect and class first and is always there for its players. This was a perfect opportunity for the Flames to pull an LA Kings move and terminate his contract.

Dissentowner's understanding of contract law: "Hey, this situation is completely unlike that other situation. Seems logical that you can get the same result anyway."

Wideman and the NHLPA would have filed a lawsuit that the Flames would have had no hope in hell of defending. Also, don't be foolish enough to think that your opinions on players match that of the organization.

[lazypucker]

I am thinking over the last couple of weeks as to how much did Wideman's suspension "helped" the Flames in the battle of the tanks? If he wasn't suspended, how many extra points would you think the Flames would have got?

Maybe the league is doing us a favour? But again it seems like the stars are aligning for the Leafs to get Austin Matthews...

[Buff]

I'm really beginning to think that an announcement will be made on Monday. At the least they could have attempted to give an explanation to the public as to why this particular process is taking so long. Lack of communication hurts their image more than anything in this situation.

[Resolute 14]

duplicate post

[saillias]

Originally Posted by lazypucker

I am thinking over the last couple of weeks as to how much did Wideman's suspension "helped" the Flames in the battle of the tanks? If he wasn't suspended, how many extra points would you think the Flames would have got?

Maybe the league is doing us a favour? But again it seems like the stars are aligning for the Leafs to get Austin Matthews...

Do you remember how bad he was? If anything, the NHL is hindering our tank. We've had to play competent, useful Nakladal, Wotherspoon and Kevin in his absence! Pfft.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Buff

I'm really beginning to think that an announcement will be made on Monday. At the least they could have attempted to give an explanation to the public as to why this particular process is taking so long. Lack of communication hurts their image more than anything in this situation.

I think you're overstating things. Wideman appeared to attack a ref, media got on it, he was suspended for 20 game. To the vast vast majority of people that was it. It's the NHLPA appealing the process afterall.

Outside of Calgary and a few hardcore hockey fans, the 'public' doesn't care. Some people are interested in the NHLPA's argument about concussions as it relates to a much bigger issue currently going on with the concussion lawsuit. But for most hockey fans, no one cares about a hockey player who attacked a ref and his union blaming it on concussion symptoms making him non-responsible for his actions.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Dissentowner's understanding of contract law: "Hey, this situation is completely unlike that other situation. Seems logical that you can get the same result anyway."

Wideman and the NHLPA would have filed a lawsuit that the Flames would have had no hope in hell of defending. Also, don't be foolish enough to think that your opinions on players match that of the organization.

And woosh, lol.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

And woosh, lol.

You wish.

[PeteMoss]

I'm sure its not allowed in the CBA, but if this is overturned or reduced by the arbitrator you'd almost have to wonder if Wideman would have a case to sue the league for damaging future earning potential by missing games on an overturned suspension.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

You wish.

Now don't be upset because it was already established it was an obvious sarcastic comment, if you had bothered to read after instead of jumping at the first opportunity to troll like you always do you wouldn't look like a fool right now.

[Resolute 14]

You are doing a very poor job of trying to backpeddle out of your own dumb comment, dissentowner.

Though it anyone is an expert at looking like a fool, it would be you.