SI Article - Flickering Flames have ideal captain in steely Mark Giordano - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

manwiches · 03-09-2016, 09:39 AM

I didn't see this when searching, so sorry if it's doubled.

Great read on Gio.

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“A relentless, no-quit attitude,” Flames director of player development Ron Sutter says. For these traits, even before Flames brass confirmed his captaincy in Sept. 2013 with a “very short meeting,” as head coach Bob Hartley describes it, Giordano seemed ideal for the job.

http://www.si.com/nhl/2016/03/03/mar...er-path-to-nhl

Tyler · 03-09-2016, 09:51 AM

Does he deserve any of the blame for our poor season this year?

Reaper · 03-09-2016, 09:54 AM

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Does he deserve any of the blame for our poor season this year?

Why would he? He can't control the other players like a puppeteer.

Tyler · 03-09-2016, 09:56 AM

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Why would he? He can't control the other players like a puppeteer.

Thanks for clarifying. For a minute there, I was under the impression that he was in fact, a puppeteer and not the captain of a hockey club

Reaper · 03-09-2016, 09:59 AM

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Thanks for clarifying. For a minute there, I was under the impression that he was in fact, a puppeteer and not the captain of a hockey club

Then what would be the purpose of assigning him a portion of the blame when it he is known for his preparedness, intensity and work ethic? Just an innate need to assign blame for human pettiness because you want a form of whipping boy?

habernac · 03-09-2016, 09:59 AM

At exit meetings that year, Hartley and then GM Jay Feaster floated one hypothetical to Flames players: If Iginla was indeed dealt and the captaincy decision was in your hands, who would you name? “If we did 25 player meetings that year, there were 24 year guys who never hesitated and immediately said Gio,” Feaster recalls. “And the 25th guy named himself.”

lol, who was the 25th guy?

Eric · 03-09-2016, 10:00 AM

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Then what would be the purpose of assigning him a portion of the blame when it he is known for his preparedness, intensity and work ethic? Just an innate need to assign blame for human pettiness because you want a form of whipping boy?

Or maybe because he's made many terrible choices in his own end resulting in goals against. He definitely had a better season last year.

polak · 03-09-2016, 10:03 AM

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lol, who was the 25th guy?

Gio?

Street Pharmacist · 03-09-2016, 10:03 AM

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At exit meetings that year, Hartley and then GM Jay Feaster floated one hypothetical to Flames players: If Iginla was indeed dealt and the captaincy decision was in your hands, who would you name? “If we did 25 player meetings that year, there were 24 year guys who never hesitated and immediately said Gio,” Feaster recalls. “And the 25th guy named himself.”

lol, who was the 25th guy?

Glencross?

Reaper · 03-09-2016, 10:04 AM

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Or maybe because he's made many terrible choices in his own end resulting in goals against. He definitely had a better season last year.

And here's me thinking the article was about his leadership abilities and character.

Iniggywetrust · 03-09-2016, 10:04 AM

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Then what would be the purpose of assigning him a portion of the blame when it he is known for his preparedness, intensity and work ethic? Just an innate need to assign blame for human pettiness because you want a form of whipping boy?

Not that it makes it right but there was certainly a fair share of blame throw Iginla's way when he was captain. He was also always known for his preparedness, intensity, and work ethic.

The captain can face blame if the team performs poorly but if you look at why this team failed, I don't think it would be because of the captain.

Goaltending and special teams were certainly bigger factors.

polak · 03-09-2016, 10:09 AM

Iginla's team had legit work ethic issues. It's natural to blame a lot of that on the leadership of the team.

Bandwagon In Flames · 03-09-2016, 10:13 AM

Gio has been and will continue to be a great captain for this team. His determination and dedication to fitness throughout the rebuild have been second to none. Very consistent offense and solid defense. He's the perfect example of a Captain who leads by example. Maybe he takes a few too many penalties but that's what happens when you battle like he does for 25+ minutes a game.

Iginla was great in his own right and a great presence in the community throughout his tenure. Hard to compare the two as they have many different qualities.

Strange Brew · 03-09-2016, 10:17 AM

I am certain Gio is a great captain. I do believe that one of the reasons Flames are so disappointing this year is their lack of domination or controlling the play when Brodie and Gio are on the ice together. We should have better results when they are out there.

Teroy · 03-09-2016, 10:29 AM

I like Gio but some of you need to count the number of times he and TJ cough up the puck and stop blaming the lesser paid defencemen. For the money they get paid, I expect better. I enjoyed their effort when they were split up a couple of games back.

GranteedEV · 03-09-2016, 10:37 AM

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I like Gio but some of you need to count the number of times he and TJ cough up the puck and stop blaming the lesser paid defencemen. For the money they get paid, I expect better. I enjoyed their effort when they were split up a couple of games back.

Not that often, actually. In fact, Giordano away from the Stajan line (which has been our worst checking group all year and most often it's been because of the forwards on the line sans Jooris) and Hamilton (which was pretty much all during the poor individual start for Dougie) manages the puck pretty damn well considering who they're up against every night.

Are there breakdowns? Of course there are, when you're in the defensive zone, the forechecking players are always at the bigger advantage. Every team has breakdowns.

The lesser-paid defensemen are blamed because they're given much easier circumstances thanks to the Gio-Brodie pairing - and they blew them over and over by letting the play go the other way. Jokipakka, Nakladal, and Wotherspoon have been a breath of fresh air the last handful of games because they've been taking their sheltered circumstances and actually playing as expected (not especially well, just as expected for sheltered players).

Teroy · 03-09-2016, 10:41 AM

Stop fooling yourself and start counting.

Roof-Daddy · 03-09-2016, 10:44 AM

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Stop fooling yourself and start counting.

How about you start counting and then come back with the numbers?

It was your F-ing claim in the first place.

Jesus I hate when people do that.

Teroy · 03-09-2016, 10:47 AM

Yes and I hate when people come back with a response that criticizes another observation. I didn't realize that you were the expert.

the2bears · 03-09-2016, 10:47 AM

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Stop fooling yourself and start counting.

How about you show us the numbers?

edit: beaten to it, but deserves mentioning again.