Last year, the Flames were a slightly below average team (whatever the Corsi freaks may say) that overachieved after Giordano was hurt. They got on a bit of a roll, drew an easy opponent in the first round, and got some useful playoff experience.
This year, the Flames were a slightly below average team that seriously underachieved while Brodie was out. (Not surprising: #1 D recovering from surgery + #2 D out of the lineup + #3 D learning an unfamiliar system + rancid goaltending = a perfect storm of defensive suck.) From the beginning of November until the Hudler trade, they were about even on goal differential; they just couldn't make up the ground they lost in October.
Now take that slightly below average team, subtract their #1 RW, #1 G, #4 and #5 D, and replace them with three minor-leaguers and a third-pairing defenceman. Instant putrid, and I didn't expect anything else. This is not on the coaches, it's not on the players for quitting, it's not even particularly on Hiller – every goalie is washed up sooner or later. It's just a really bad roster that hasn't been receiving breaks. They'll probably get some breaks and win a few games while playing out the string, but not enough to improve their position in the standings. That ship has sailed.
It isn't even a question of tanking: trading Hudler, Russell, and Jones for future assets was the only smart move in the circumstances, and nobody chose to have Ramo done for the season or Wideman out for 20 games. But when you take a poor-to-middling NHL roster and remove a quarter of the players, no matter what your motives are, the result will be losing and plenty of it.
It's times like this that I remember an old saying among diplomats: ‘Russia is never as strong as she looks. Russia is never as weak as she looks.’ The same is true of the Flames, and of sports teams generally.
Right now the team needs a starting goalie, a top-six RW, and continued development from Bennett, Hamilton, and other young players. It doesn't need a guest appearance by Chicken Little, but unfortunately, a lot of fans will be eager to provide one.
Well said
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If the refs have it in for us, why would they be helping us lose?
Why would a better draft pick for Calgary help the refs??.
I don't even think the players care where they are in draft postion. The players want to win games . Winning games is what they are paid for. I don't think any teams players want to lose . Either the team really does just suck ( Edm) or the gm goes and sells the farm (Buf).
Don't think Thw refs are out to get them ( I think?) just answering your question.
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Maybe it is not the coaches or management that needs to be gone... Maybe this team just sucks .
The Flames just are not a well built team at this point. Last year was a Fluke . They had every single bounce go there way. This is where the Flames were suppose to be last year. This year they are even younger with more Rookis ib the line up.
I think alot of people need to get there collected heads out of the sand and just wake up to reality. Stop teying to find easy answers to why they are bad this year by blaming none players.
I would not at all be shocked if they missed the playoffs next year either unless they sign a bunch of superstars in the off season.
You wanted a rebuild and now that it's here your bitching like this team should be a absolute contender every year in the 3rd full year into it.
Have a couple more coffees and wake up. This is what a rebuild looks like. You wanted it you got it stop the bitchin and have some patience at least for another year.
The core is there but they are just inexperienced and very young. This team just is not built to win yet. Deal with it.
End rant ####!
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Why would they???
That was a clean hit. If it was dirty and they Ray Emery'd Garbutt then fine.
Hate seeing every clean hit answered like that. Domi looked no better then his goon father there.
That was actually a real chicken #### move by Duclair and Domi.
That was cowardess to jump a guy from behind like that. It was a clean hit that didn't call for it. Keep that crap away frombthe Flames style of play unless it is after a dirty hit.
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Watched it a couple of more times now and damn that was dirty by Domi. What a ####ing chicken #### move .
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Dear Bob. I think we have all seen enough of Jonas Hiller. I don't care about the losing at this point, but if I have to watch Jonas Hiller waddle around in the crease on his knees after letting one in high one more time I am fairly certain my head will explode. That is all.
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I only looked at the balance of PP opportunities each team had in a game.
So far this season:
The Flames have had the greater number of PP chances in a game 28 times
The Flames' opponent has had the greater number of PP chances in a game 18 times
Both teams have had an equal number of PP chances in a game 18 times
To break that down further:
Flames having the greater number of PP in a game...
5 more PP than opponent: 1 time
4 more PP than opponent: 5 times
3 more PP than opponent: 5 times
2 more PP than opponent: 6 times
1 more PP than opponent: 11 times
Flames having the greater number of PK in a game...
5 more PK than opponent: 1 time
4 more PK than opponent: 1 time
3 more PK than opponent: 0 times
2 more PK than opponent: 5 times
1 more PK than opponent: 11 times
The Buffalo game was the -5 game, and the San Jose game a few weeks ago was the -4.
Since the start of February, the Flames have had more PP in a game 6 times, fewer PP in a game 6 times, and an equal number of PP chances 4 times. From that POV, it doesn't seem that the refs are taking out anything on the Flames because of Wideman. On the other hand, the Flames have been shorthanded at least 5 times in a game in 7 games this season -- 5 of those games have been since February 1.
What's really odd is that the refs in Buffalo are both relatively low on the list of all NHL refs for the number of power plays they give out per game.
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Just watched highlights because I did not watch the game because of that Swiss clown in our net. But man oh man is he bad. Our def, terrible too, no question about that. But he is not able to stop anything. What could be a goal will be a goal against this piece of crap! Me as a fan, I am really tired of him, hate him, cannot stand him. It is really beyond me how it is even possible that this ultracrap can play NHL game.
Sad season, I have also lost lots of faith of Hartley, as much as I like him, he is also very, very bad this season. Hate to even type it after what he did since he arrived to CGY, but this season, come ooon, he is really bad. No change of our gameplan even though it is not working anymore. Not able to adapt............
......but Hiller is the King, for me he is the No. 1 reason our season is what it is. He was ultrabad at the beginning of the season along with Ramo, but Karri is an NHL level goalie and he was able to find his groove, not the case with this Hiller boy. Actually Hiller was able to elevate his ultraterrible play into sky limits. Worst goalie ever to wear my beloved lovely Flaming C jersey, he is the real SHAME!
Unbelieavably sad season. Was not expecting this at all, I still hope somebody will wake me up, and it is only a bad intense dream.......okay, let ´s move on and hope for a better season 2016-17..........with NO HILLER IN NET!!!!!!!!!!
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Just watched highlights because I did not watch the game because of that Swiss clown in our net. But man oh man is he bad. Our def, terrible too, no question about that. But he is not able to stop anything. What could be a goal will be a goal against this piece of crap! Me as a fan, I am really tired of him, hate him, cannot stand him. It is really beyond me how it is even possible that this ultracrap can play NHL game. Sad season, I have also lost lots of faith of Hartley, as much as I like him, he is also very, very bad this season. Hate to even type it after what he did since he arrived to CGY, but this season, come ooon, he is really bad. No change of our gameplan even though it is not working anymore. Not able to adapt............but Hiller is the King, for me he is the No. 1 reason our season is what it is. He was ultrabad at the beginning of the season along with Ramo, but Karri is an NHL level goalie and he was able to find his groove, not the case with this Hiller boy. Actually Hiller was able to elevate his ultraterrible play into sky limits. Worst goalie ever to wear my beloved lovely Flaming C jersey, he is the real SHAME! Unbelieavably sad season. Was not expecting this at all, I still hope somebody will wake me up, and it is only a bad intense dream.......okay, let ´s move on and hope for a better season 2016-17..........with NO HILLER IN NET!!!!!!!!!!
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This year, the Flames were a slightly below average team that seriously underachieved while Brodie was out.
You're kidding yourself. Every team has injuries. Every team has important players adjusting to a new system at the beginning of the season. Every team has streaks of bad play.
This team has the worst special teams in the league. This team has among the worst team defence in the league. This team has only one scoring line. This team is small.
This is a bad team with a promising young core.
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Every time they change it, they end up helping the Oilers
Only because the Oilers are the luckiest team in the history of sports. Do you know the saying, "You have to be good to be lucky"? Yeah, it isn't true.
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