02-25-2016, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Doesn't excuse the poor return. Feaster failed at the Iginla trade and was mediocre or failed on the Bouwmeester trade. Both would have returned more if shopped by a more competent GM. It was actually that trade deadline that completely soured me on Feaster and made me question his ability to manage. I was super disappointed in the Iginla return, it did not stack up to the value similar players had when moved on previous deadlines.
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100% agreed. Trading a hall of famer for a bag of pucks is the reason Feast is not a GM anymore. Terrible, terrible, terrible.
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02-25-2016, 06:40 PM
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#102
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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I don't see this one as a direct comparable to Iginla since Ladd was nearly as restrictive in terms of where he's accept a trade.
The one that got me was the St. Louis trade, where Tampa got two firsts and another top 6 player for him and New York was the only destination. That one was the real kicker for how bad Feasters trade skills were.
Happy this is out of the way early though. Hudler is pretty much the best forward on the market now.
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02-25-2016, 06:55 PM
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#103
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Franchise Player
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Did Ladd give the Jets a list of only four teams he would accept a trade to, then kibosh a deal with one of those teams at the 11th hour?
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02-25-2016, 06:58 PM
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#104
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Calgary
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I wonder if any of the Ladd return will make it to the Islanders for Hamonic.
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02-25-2016, 06:59 PM
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#105
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Doesn't excuse the poor return. Feaster failed at the Iginla trade and was mediocre or failed on the Bouwmeester trade. Both would have returned more if shopped by a more competent GM. It was actually that trade deadline that completely soured me on Feaster and made me question his ability to manage. I was super disappointed in the Iginla return, it did not stack up to the value similar players had when moved on previous deadlines.
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...But he was 36 year old pending UFA considered declining that would only accept a short list of teams. How much can you squeeze out? I agree. Better prospects could and should've been obtained. But he returned the 1st. I would've taken the Boston package over Pitts. I don't know why Jay didn't. Hell, he ended up there anyways.
Now the Jbo trade is a different story.
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02-25-2016, 07:00 PM
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#106
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Lifetime Suspension
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I see it's 2013 on this page. Anyone tried Candy Crush?
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02-25-2016, 07:00 PM
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#107
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Did Ladd give the Jets a list of only four teams he would accept a trade to, then kibosh a deal with one of those teams at the 11th hour?
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What competent GM allows that situation to happen in the first place? If Iginla gets you a list of 4 teams then you get him to waive the no move clause so those shenanigans don't happen. Made Feaster look completely incompetent but definitely made me think less of Iginla as well.
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02-25-2016, 07:09 PM
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#108
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Franchise Player
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Who cares if Iggy was 36 and Ladd 30. Age is not an issue for a rental player. What matters is how they're playing THIS season. It's not like he Pens/Hawks were/are trying to sign them to long term contracts as a priority.
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02-25-2016, 07:17 PM
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#109
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Keep it on topic of the trade
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02-25-2016, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MRCboicgy
Keep it on topic of the trade
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Comparing the Iginla trade to the Ladd trade is more on topic than 90% of the trades on here!
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02-25-2016, 08:11 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Excellent deal for the Jets.
The Hawks need to win the Cup for this to end up being a good deal for them.
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02-25-2016, 08:38 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago Native relocated to the stinking desert of Utah
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Excellent deal for the Jets.
The Hawks need to win the Cup for this to end up being a good deal for them.
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Dano seemed to be in Q's permadoghouse, and was scuffling, even at the Rock...He didn't even get any mid-season looks to cover for injuries...and the picks are going to be LATE in the rounds...
So no vital prospects or picks are really going to Winnepeg...this is really a low risk deal for the 'Hawks.
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02-25-2016, 08:55 PM
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And even if the Hawks don't win a cup and Ladd goes to free agency, how will they lose? They have 3 cups already. Everything they do from here on out is a bonus. Its teams that go all in, sacrifice their future and don't win a cup that are funny. But the Hawks? Yeah, they'll sit there having 'lost' this trade, stroking their 3 Stanley Cup rings.
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02-25-2016, 09:22 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Guess this means it's a no go for Hamhuis/Vrbata to the hawks.
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02-25-2016, 10:14 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Originally Posted by thefoss1957
Dano seemed to be in Q's permadoghouse, and was scuffling, even at the Rock...He didn't even get any mid-season looks to cover for injuries...and the picks are going to be LATE in the rounds...
So no vital prospects or picks are really going to Winnepeg...this is really a low risk deal for the 'Hawks.
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Still a first round selection. Chacago is in win now mode, so to them no bigs. Good deal for both sides.
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02-25-2016, 10:29 PM
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Resurrection
Still a first round selection. Chacago is in win now mode, so to them no bigs. Good deal for both sides.
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Chicago is permanently in "win Stanley cup now, but also rebuild at the same time because why the hell not?" mode.
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02-25-2016, 10:32 PM
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#117
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Caged Great
Just a random thought, would you deal Mason Raymond for Bryan Bickell?
Bickell has the same term on the contract as Raymond, but costs slightly more. Would bring some truculence to the 4th line.
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Not sure we have that 1M in cap space available. Next year is verrry tight.
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02-25-2016, 10:35 PM
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#118
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Just about everything that the Hawks touch turns to gold these days. It's unreal.
Many predicted that with the big changes they went through this off season, combined with the tough division they reside in, that they'd miss the playoffs this season. Yet there they are, right up at the top of the standings again and looking like the team to beat once again.
They've got one hell of a core, and one hell of a coach, that's for sure.
Of course, it doesn't hurt either that because they are perennial contenders they are able to nab "free-bees" like Panarin from time to time. That dudes on pace for 75 freakin points for crying out loud. Sure would have been nice to snag him for free wouldn't it have?
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02-25-2016, 11:39 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago Native relocated to the stinking desert of Utah
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Roof...Panarin's deal is incentive laden...his incredible season will have a sal-cap bill
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02-25-2016, 11:53 PM
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#120
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by thefoss1957
Roof...Panarin's deal is incentive laden...his incredible season will have a sal-cap bill
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So Chicago trades a few more expensive secondary pieces for great returns to replenish the assets they lose in deadline deals.
Why they're the best.
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