Here's my totally anecdotal analysis on demographics and work ethic. I work in an office environment.
- When I started at my job, there was a pretty good mix of baby boomer people, and millenials, but not a lot of inbetween. The manager was a baby boomer, and while I don't think he was lazy necessarily all the time, there were sometimes it seemed like he was (but it was hard to tell if he was being lazy or just trying to properly manage by delegating tasks).
-His friend, that he hired as a supervisor for the group, was one of the most useless lazy people I have ever seen. He worked for several years, but nobody knew what he did. He always was there, friendly, but did nothing. Discussions about this person and white collar crime commenced. He was later let go. Baby boomer, extremely lazy.
-Another lady that started to work for us. Baby boomer, 2nd most lazy person I have ever met. Refused to do certain tasks because it was 'easier just not to'. At least for this lady, rather than the person above, it was clear what her role was, she just didn't do it. Wouldn't return phone calls, files were a mess. Terrible.
-Another baby boomer lady, currently reports to me. She has spent the last 8 years or presumably more talking about how millenials are so lazy and selfish and only focusing on themselves. She works hard but her axe has ground down to the hilt in terms of whining about lazy millenials. She's wrong, or the way I see it she's interpreting it wrong. It's annoying to listen to now, because anyone in her group that wants to take their (entitled) vacation days, she gets on the old soap box.
Lastly, another baby boomer guy who hated everyone and everything. Least friendly human I have ever encountered. However, he was a baby boomer and he worked pretty hard I would say.
Now, young people I have worked with.
-I have worked with so many, and I won't even get into the examples because my point here is that I worked with many lazy young people, and many hard working young people. And some people that were just... ok. They'd show up, do their stuff and leave right on time, and in general just kinda cruised through. But I have worked with insanely useless white collar crime young people too. And total rockstar amazing young people that work an have worked extremely hard to get where they are. They stay late, come in early, don't take lunches, grind through everything, and are in general just busting their ass 24/7.
In conclusion, age doesn't ####ing matter. It has, from what I can tell, zero impact on work ethic. To think so is so ignorant, that if you're a baby boomer with all this life and work experience, and come to this conclusion that demographics can indicate work ethic tendencies- I just assume you are an idiot.
People are people. Every generation, people are people. The nature of people does not change over time.
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"A even-more-recent study has found that, being aware of their innate ability to do so, Millennials will say anything to raise the blood pressure of Baby Boomers."
As a baby boomer you punks can say whatever you want. Now excuse while I have my bowl of Shredded Wheat with raisins
I eat cereal on the weekends because in my mind it is the easiest to make. During the week I take an egg, that my wife pre-boiled, and a yogurt parfait (also pre-made by my wife) to work to eat because I don't feel like I have time to stop and eat breakfast at home. I also realize that stopping to get food takes longer than making something at home to take with me.
I'm all about being lazy. My wife once told me that she has never seen anybody work so hard to be lazy.
I don't think eating cereal is too much work. My co-worker brings milk in a thermos and cereal in a zip lock bag to work and eats his cereal once he gets to work... now THAT is too much work. To go through the steps of bringing milk and cereal to work... not for me. I will bring a pack of instant oatmeal to work and make it in the microwave... but only if my wife didn't make breakfast for me to bring along.
People are people. Every generation, people are people. The nature of people does not change over time.
Bollocks. We're shaped by the world we live in, and the world changes. You really think you could hop into a time machine and happily spend a week in the shoes of your great-grandparents? That the relentless toil wouldn't leave you shocked and exhausted.
For more than two hundred years people in the West have been getting progressively more comfortable and secure. Each generation has had it easier than the one before it in real and tangible ways. Why do you think really old people are often thrifty to the point of neurosis? Because many of them remember going to bed hungry when they were children. Or having to share one pair of shoes with a sibling. You don't think that shapes you?
People were tougher in the past because they had to be. They lived in more brutal times. Their wants and insecurities were over basic needs. For most, being lazy meant going hungry. The amount of grinding labour just to prepare food every day, keep dishes and clothes and body clean in a home with no electricity or running water, would break the average person in Canada today.
How long do you think the posters on this board would last in the trenches? Ridden with lice, chasing rats off our food. Hurling ourselves into a storm of steel and flame month after month, year after year, while around us our friends were blown to pieces?
We're soft. The softest people to ever walk the planet. Are millennials softer than boomers? Both generations have been raised in environments of such affluence and comfort that there's not much difference. But millennials are one more generation removed from hunger and genuine toil, so yes, on the whole they're more coddled than their parents.
As for cereal, everyone has time for a bowl of cereal. Whether they care to do other things with that time instead is a different matter. Me, I like sitting at a table with other people for meals. Breakfast in our house is a 30-40 minute affair - cereal, toast, fruit. Pancakes and bacon on weekends. I find it an enjoyable way to ease into the day.
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Bollocks. We're shaped by the world we live in, and the world changes. You really think you could hop into a time machine and happily spend a week in the shoes of your great-grandparents? That the relentless toil wouldn't leave you shocked and exhausted.
For more than two hundred years people in the West have been getting progressively more comfortable and secure. Each generation has had it easier than the one before it in real and tangible ways. Why do you think really old people are often thrifty to the point of neurosis? Because many of them remember going to bed hungry when they were children. Or having to share one pair of shoes with a sibling. You don't think that shapes you?
People were tougher in the past because they had to be. They lived in more brutal times. Their wants and insecurities were over basic needs. For most, being lazy meant going hungry. The amount of grinding labour just to prepare food every day, keep dishes and clothes and body clean in a home with no electricity or running water, would break the average person in Canada today.
How long do you think the posters on this board would last in the trenches? Ridden with lice, chasing rats off our food. Hurling ourselves into a storm of steel and flame month after month, year after year, while around us our friends were blown to pieces?
We're soft. The softest people to ever walk the planet. Are millennials softer than boomers? Both generations have been raised in environments of such affluence and comfort that there's not much difference. But millennials are one more generation removed from hunger and genuine toil, so yes, on the whole they're more coddled than their parents.
As for cereal, everyone has time for a bowl of cereal. Whether they care to do other things with that time instead is a different matter. Me, I like sitting at a table with other people for meals. Breakfast in our house is a 30-40 minute affair - cereal, toast, fruit. Pancakes and bacon on weekends. I find it an enjoyable way to ease into the day.
These are good points, but I think you underestimate that people are adaptable. Baby boomers haven't gone to war because they haven't had to. You can bet that they would be tough SOBs if the times demanded, like their parents were.
Really the best way to be is to be soft but have gratitude that we're able to be soft, and appreciate that it wasn't always this way and that many sacrificed for our softness. But there is nothing wrong with living in a time of peace increasingly having more time for leisure and family.
Do you guys just get up, shower, get dressed and run? Man, I like to have a shower, sit at my computer with a coffee, breakfast and the news(and CP) for 30 min before leaving. Plenty of time for cereal, or toast, or eggs.
