[Trade] Markus Granlund to Van for Shinkaruk

[C_of_Red28]

Enjoy Granlund Canuck fans. Great 2 way player that will do well in Van. Glad to see Granlund will finally get ice time however sad that he will never win a Stanley Cup now

[driveway]

I don't really know how to feel about this, beyond the fact that Canucks fans hate it. So right now I like it.

Some gems from Draft Day 2013:

Vancouver:

Spoiler!

Velociraptor
With Shinkaruk, Erne, Mantha and Rychel all available with 5 picks to go, we could get two real quality forwards here today. Knowing Calgary they'll go with Fucale or Jankowski-esque swing for the fences.

StringerBell
Trade up! Trade up! Take Shinkaruk!!

(Flames Draft Poirier at #22)

BoHorvatFan
Off the board Feaster.

BrandonL
YES! I LOVE FEASTER
Makes Gillis look like an evil genius.

(Washington takes Burakovsky #23)

thefeebster
We can get hunter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't mess this one up.

Proto
Oh.. my... god. Gillis just had a gem drop in his lap. This is a coup.

(Canucks take Shinkaruk at #24)

StringerBell
**** yes!!!!

Bourne Endeavor
BOYAH! Gillis managed to do something right!

Lucbourdon
Hunter is a very determined and competitive offensive player. He has very good skating ability with speed, quickness, change of pace, agility and excellent balance, which allows him to play in traffic and versus bigger players without being nullified. He's hungry to score and will pay the price to score and get to the scoring areas. He has very good hands and can beat goaltenders in a variety of ways and he is able to make those plays quickly and in tight areas. Recognizes offensive opportunities and he 'jumps' quickly when he sees the chance to take advantage and he does so with or without the puck. He plays with a competitive edge where he is simply not going to allow himself to be denied and he wants to be a difference maker in the game.

JerkChicken
Effin' rights!
I CAN NOT BELIEVE that he fell to #24.
Wow, Flames fans must be choked. WOW.

From CP:

Spoiler!

nik-
Mantha, Zykov, Gauthier, Shinkaruk.
One is ours!

the_only_turek_fan
Only thing standing between the Flames and Shinkaruk is Toronto.

Erick Estrada
I hate the Leafs. I fully expect them to take Hunter.

(Leafs take Gauthier #21)

Cali Panthers Fan
Leafs take Gauthier!
Shinkaruk!!! Yay!!!

Table 5
Man, hoping for Shinkaruk now.
This is why you stockpile firsts!

(Flames draft Poirier at #22)

Erick Estrada
Lol

dissentowner
Wtf????

vanisleflamesfan
Sigh... there is the typical Flames that I know and... hate.

CalgaryFan1988
Feaster is a ####ing idiot.

Caged Great
It's a good pick.

(Vancouver picks Shinkaruk at #24)

JurassicTunga12
Shinkaruk to the canucks.
jesus.

Erick Estrada
Canucks 1st round >>> Calgary Flames 1st round.

SebC
Flames: Poirier
Canucks: Shinkaruk
One way or another, we're going to be talking about this for a LONG time.

dissentowner
Well I hope now the rumours about him being a wussy db are true, perfect fit for the Nucks if so.

GirlySports
Hate him already.

FlameZilla
Shinkaruk will haunt us forever.

I doubt there's ever been a player who's had the Flames fan base turn on them so quickly, so fast, twice.

June 30, 2013 2:17 pm: WE WANT SHINKARUK!!
June 30, 2013 2:29 pm: EFF YOU SHINKARUK!! I hope you fail in heck forever!

February 22, 2016 2:51 pm: Shinkaruk? I hate that guy, lazy, no good, gonna be a bust, Canuck loser poop-face.
February 22, 2016 2:52 pm: Wait, what? For real? Is that confirmed? Woah...
February 22, 2016 2:53 pm: Top 20 scorer in the AHL! Hope he scores 1000 points in the league for us LOLZORS VANCOUVER!!!

[Tinordi]

Benning's got an eye for talent.

Vey
Sutter
Etem
Granlund
Bonino
Sbisa
Dorsett
Clendening
Baertschi

Edit:

How could I forget Cory Conacher?

What a rogues gallery.

[Lanny_McDonald]

As a Granlund fan this was a tough to read. I always thought he was more suited to the wing and that is where the Flames should have moved him. But it never happened and team depth was catching up to him. He could have been that finisher on the wing, but it sounds like he fought it and couldn't adapt to a position the Flames really needed. A little bit of a sad day to see Markus head to Vancouver.

Getting Shinkaruk back is interesting. Very much like Baertschi, but without the concussion problems. He is a scorer and has a great shot. He has a very high compete level, which is lacking at times on this team. The only knock on him is his size. How many small wingers can this team have? I guess it doesn't matter if they play hard and score a lot. We'll see how this plays out. I'm not going to anoint Shinkaruk as the answer to the Flames problems on the wing, but he is an intriguing piece to pick up for diminishing returns. Still wondering why a LW when we are so lacking on the RW?

[devo22]

I love how the Canucks decided they wanted a defenseman in return, but then lost patience and flipped him for a center. Such a Benning-esque thing to do.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by driveway

I don't really know how to feel about this, beyond the fact that Canucks fans hate it. So right now I like it.

Some gems from Draft Day 2013:

Vancouver:

Spoiler!

From CP:

Spoiler!

I doubt there's ever been a player who's had the Flames fan base turn on them so quickly, so fast, twice.

June 30, 2013 2:17 pm: WE WANT SHINKARUK!!
June 30, 2013 2:29 pm: EFF YOU SHINKARUK!! I hope you fail in heck forever!

February 22, 2016 2:51 pm: Shinkaruk? I hate that guy, lazy, no good, gonna be a bust, Canuck loser poop-face.
February 22, 2016 2:52 pm: Wait, what? For real? Is that confirmed? Woah...
February 22, 2016 2:53 pm: Top 20 scorer in the AHL! Hope he scores 1000 points in the league for us LOLZORS VANCOUVER!!!

There definitely some posters who went after him all the time since the draft which does make it funny that he's here now.

[Demetric]

Originally Posted by New Era

As a Granlund fan this was a tough to read. I always thought he was more suited to the wing and that is where the Flames should have moved him. But it never happened and team depth was catching up to him. He could have been that finisher on the wing, but it sounds like he fought it and couldn't adapt to a position the Flames really needed. A little bit of a sad day to see Markus head to Vancouver.

Getting Shinkaruk back is interesting. Very much like Baertschi, but without the concussion problems. He is a scorer and has a great shot. He has a very high compete level, which is lacking at times on this team. The only knock on him is his size. How many small wingers can this team have? I guess it doesn't matter if they play hard and score a lot. We'll see how this plays out. I'm not going to anoint Shinkaruk as the answer to the Flames problems on the wing, but he is an intriguing piece to pick up for diminishing returns. Still wondering why a LW when we are so lacking on the RW?

Okay, I will . He will pair nicely with Bennet and Poirier and with Mony and Jonny, most anyone can fit with. things looking good.

[Cycling76er]

I hope you fail in heck forever!

Such strong and inappropriate language! This is a place of wholesome decency!

[taco.vidal]

Originally Posted by devo22

I love how the Canucks decided they wanted a defenseman in return, but then lost patience and flipped him for a center. Such a Benning-esque thing to do.

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Benning's got an eye for talent.

Vey
Sutter
Etem
Granlund
Bonino
Sbisa
Dorsett
Clendening
Baertschi

Edit:

How could I forget Cory Conacher?

What a rogues gallery.

I remember when there was talk around here about wanting Benning for the Flames GM before we got Tree. Yeesh, dodged a bullet there.

[Vinny01]

I wonder who would win a poll where rival fan bases were voting between Sven+Granlund vs Shinkaruk+Andersen?

Any CP HFers wanna fire that one up on the other board?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by taco.vidal

I remember when there was talk around here about wanting Benning for the Flames GM before we got Tree. Yeesh, dodged a bullet there.

Yikes that would have been a nightmare. Looking at the cup winning regime of 2011 you have Chiarelli, Benning, and Sweeny all holding down GM jobs with Weisbroad an AGM (or whateve he is in Vancouver)

I really feel like Benning is the Canucks version of Feaster. Trying to rebuild and still make the playoffs whole being viewed by rival fanbase as the worst GM in the league

[bubbsy]

i think there's another shoe to drop in vancouver.

They move out one of, if not their top prospect, who happens to be a LW.

What's one thing the nucks have done in the past year or so, it's pick up other team's troubled prospect situations.

My money is on droin becoming a canuck this week.

[Red Menace]

I think Granlund could project to having a Frolik-like career, a solid 2 way pro who can play on your 2nd or 3rd line, good at the PK or PP.
I don't really buy the argument that he can't play the wing, they didn't try it out for very long, and not at all in the NHL (that I can recall)
Shinkaruk may have a higher ceiling, but he also has a lower floor.
I think it was worth the gamble in the end because we need more bonafide top 6 players, but I am sad to see Granlund go.
Unlike most posters I will continue to wish success for both him and Baertschi, even if I hope their team loses every game they play.

[Matata]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I wonder who would win a poll where rival fan bases were voting between Sven+Granlund vs Shinkaruk+Andersen?

Any CP HFers wanna fire that one up on the other board?

They did do a shinkaruk (86%) vs. Granlund (14%) poll that was so lopsided a moderator closed it

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I wonder who would win a poll where rival fan bases were voting between Sven+Granlund vs Shinkaruk+Andersen?

Any CP HFers wanna fire that one up on the other board?

Dude, they are two separate trades made under very different circumstances.

What you want is about as useful as asking to compare Granlund + Reinhart + Bozek for Shinkaruk and a 3rd round pick.

[Sutter_in_law]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Dude, they are two separate trades made under very different circumstances.

What you want is about as useful as asking to compare Granlund + Reinhart + Bozek for Shinkaruk and a 3rd round pick.

yeah, not quite...

[the_only_turek_fan]

I really hope that he gets a look this year.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by Gaudfather

Bar down! Could get used to seeing those.

It's funny: I saw him do essentially that drill with his dad hundreds of times.
Get the puck in the corner, come out high off the circle, wrister to score...

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Dude, they are two separate trades made under very different circumstances.

What you want is about as useful as asking to compare Granlund + Reinhart + Bozek for Shinkaruk and a 3rd round pick.

It is 2 rival teams making back to back deadline swaps that include once highly touted prospects. I like what the Flames got out of both deals and according to Canuck fans they are really liking Sven. Would be interested to see what other fan bases think. I don't post on HF but know many on here do

[Erick Estrada]

I liked Granlund more than some here. He's got a decent toolbox so he's a guy that I could see as a solid utility player. That said there's nothing outstanding about him and this otganization has an abundance of bottom 6 type forwards so unless they move Backlund there's really no spot for him next season. Now the organization can rinse and repeat with Shinkaruk and hopefully he has more top 6 potential for this organization.