2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors v2

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by saillias

Murray is 2~ years ahead of Gillies in development due to the CHL -> AHL path and the fact Gillies missed this whole year due to hip surgery.
Yes sorry for poor wording. I mean next year. Not the rest of this season

Honestly, he's only ahead because Gillies got injured for the entire season so early. Believe if Gillies was healthy he would have put up big numbers in his the AHL this year.

Matt Murray has four shutouts this season. Jon Gillies had two, in three games.

[Matty81]

I think Murray fits more of a need but Drouin has a way higher trade value if history is any indicator. Short of top 10 NHL starters who are young, goalies rarely cost as much as front line forwards and blue chip forward prospects.

If you have a chance to get Drouin for the same return and it doesn't touch the core or any significant picks, should be done instantly.

Not saying I wouldn't like Murray too, but top AHL goalies are historically way cheaper than guys who had been drafted in the top 3 recently.

The Flames have Monahan, Gaudreau and Bennett but still need 3 more top 6 forwards in the years to come. Drouin would slot in nicely. Pick up Nylander or one of the two Finns in the draft to play RW and you are suddenly a piece away from having a young top 6 for a long time.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Murray only makes sense if he is the Flames starter next year. If he is in the AHL, he shares with Gillies (presumably). If he is penciled in as a backup, we still need to acquire a veteran goalie (presumably).

Anyone actually watch this guy? Is he ready to be a starter?

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Goalies are kind of tougher to predict. All signs point to Murray being a legit starter, but how do we know that for sure? You'd want a bigger sample size in the NHL to form a real judgement. Plus, he'd cost a decent amount.

Drouin scored at about a 0.5 PPG pace in TBL on the 4th line and his value is at an all time rock-bottom.

And despite his value being at rock bottom he may still cost more to acquire than Murray. How do we know Drouin is a top two line LW for sure? We don't. Both prospects are slightly unknown commodities.

It's an interesting discussion but hard to evaluate when we don't know if PIT would even deal Murray or what they're asking and how much TB wants from us for Drouin.

[Demetric]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

Murray only makes sense if he is the Flames starter next year. If he is in the AHL, he shares with Gillies (presumably). If he is penciled in as a backup, we still need to acquire a veteran goalie (presumably).

Anyone actually watch this guy? Is he ready to be a starter?

with only 4 opportunities to do so, even if did see all his NHL appearances, it is not enough to make a decision on weather or not a starter in NHL

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by Demetric

with only 4 opportunities to do so, even if did see all his NHL appearances, it is not enough to make a decision on weather or not a starter in NHL

My point exactly.

Last year SJ took a calculated risk on Jones being a legit starter. It has worked reasonably well for them, but they had more NHL data to make that determination. Murray is far riskier for next year.

[Seachd]

Granlund traded for Shinkaruk?

According to Ottawa radio host Jakubec.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Seachd

Granlund traded for Shinkaruk?

is this a proposal? speculation? what is this?

[JurassicTunga12]

Originally Posted by Seachd

Granlund traded for Shinkaruk?

this?
Peter Loubardias and 8 others follow AJ Jakubec ‏@AJonSports 3m3 minutes ago
Hearing Canucks & Flames have completed a deal. Markus Granlund to VAN. Hunter Shinkaruk to CGY. Not sure what else is involved. #NHL


uh

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

Murray only makes sense if he is the Flames starter next year. If he is in the AHL, he shares with Gillies (presumably). If he is penciled in as a backup, we still need to acquire a veteran goalie (presumably).

Anyone actually watch this guy? Is he ready to be a starter?

I think he's ready to be a 30ish game backup behind a veteran starter.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

this?
Peter Loubardias and 8 others follow AJ Jakubec ‏@AJonSports 3m3 minutes ago
Hearing Canucks & Flames have completed a deal. Markus Granlund to VAN. Hunter Shinkaruk to CGY. Not sure what else is involved. #NHL


uh

Ummmm, what?

[bubbsy]

lol i thought that was a joke on twitter.

[SuperMatt18]

That would be interesting...and weird.

Unless the guy is just using a joke twitter post as a source.

[atb]

Wow what?

[Robbob]

The guy is from Ottawa reporting a Flames/Canucks deal. That is weird.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

F5 getting a workout.

[northcrunk]

Friedman confirmed it on his Reddit AMA lol

[Robbob]

Now I want Drouin so all the 2013 first rounders can be ours.

[sureLoss]

Aaron Portzline @Aportzline
Scouts expected on hand for #CBJ - #Bruins: ARI, CGY, CAR, DET, DAL, FLA (2), MINN, MON, NASH, NJ, NYI, NYR, STL, TB, VAN. #tistheweek

Flames also have 2 scouts at NSH @ MTL tonight

Flames do have games against Bruins, Preds, and Habs in March

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Aaron Portzline @Aportzline
Scouts expected on hand for #CBJ - #Bruins: ARI, CGY, CAR, DET, DAL, FLA (2), MINN, MON, NASH, NJ, NYI, NYR, STL, TB, VAN. #tistheweek

I would like to see us get Elvis Merzlikins from Columbus.