Uber to Resume in Calgary December 6 2016

[para transit fellow]

I believe the difference in the police screening is the added fingerprint check if the applicant's date of birth matches a sex offender Ever since a sex offender changed his name this has been a problem)

Uber is advocating background checks that are in line with national groups but Alberta has been requiring more stringent standards for people who work with vulnerable sector for a few years now. (It has been a big challenge in the volunteer sector)

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by para transit fellow

I believe the difference in the police screening is the added fingerprint check if the applicant's date of birth matches a sex offender (

And as Nenshi stated in the twitter fight, apparently pardoned convictions.

And while I agree with GGG's post above about pardoned convictions, I'm not really sure what Uber's reasoning against the CPS background check would be.

I assume substantial cost or time difference? But they don't really explain it.

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

"Allows ridesharing companies to use the same checks as Girl Guides of Canada..."

I don't have experience at all with Girl Guides of Canada, but I imagine one of the checks is a bit of a 'common sense' thing that the way Uber is structured would not be possible.

I doubt that there is many situations where a person just walks up to the Girl Guides from the streets, show a receptionist he/she has no convictions, and then proceeds to be unaccompanied with the girls. Yet, in essence, that's what an Uber driver would be doing frequently.

I think we can all agree that we want the Uber drivers to have a background check. Council deciding that the background check comes from the CPS seems entirely reasonable.

If there's a reason that it doesn't work for Uber, the onus should be on Uber to explain why. They didn't even bother going into any detail on this. I'm sure they have their reasons, but they did a piss poor job conveying it.

Girl guides uses either a RCMP or CPS police background check and they pay for it.

SOURCE: My daughter is in guides and my wife is a volunteer.

When I worked at the airport I had a background check done by CPS, RCMP and CSIS and it took 3 months. I don't expect that level of scrutiny for Uber/Taxis but I would think an official police back ground check would be better than an online background check.

[Oling_Roachinen]

That's a headscratcher then because Uber is advocating for the same guidelines that the Girl Guide's (among other organizations) use for their background checks, and not the CPS background check. Inline with Uber explaining the situation extremely poorly in my opinion.

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

That's a headscratcher then because Uber is advocating for the same guidelines that the Girl Guide's (among other organizations) use for their background checks, and not the CPS background check. Inline with Uber explaining the situation extremely poorly in my opinion.

Girl guides does partner with backcheck but really only for renewal checks. The first one you do they want a police check.

http://www.backcheck.net/girlguides/en.html

[ZedMan]

Looks like Calgary isn't the only jurisdiction that has taken issue with Uber's background check process:

http://www.cnet.com/news/ubers-backg...-says-houston/

[Violator]

Originally Posted by darklord700

The out of province inspection is next to useless by my book. As long as your brake and signal lights are working, wipers are in good condition and tires have tread left, you will pass.

Out of province inspections are a joke mainly because its handled by the private sector versus the government.

[Fuzz]

Does anyone else find it hilarious that Uber's Alberta strategy is to pit Edmonton against Calgary, and their conclusion is that Calgary=NG?

How amateur is that?

[Oling_Roachinen]

Calgary was no good in it's handling of Uber, and the taxi industry long before Uber tried to enter Calgary, though. I'm far from saying that Uber was perfect in its approach, but City Hall was incompetent (being generous).

Unfortunately, Edmonton has been better than Calgary in two things recently. Dental health and the ride-sharing issue.

[Fuzz]

Ya, but come on. Look at this.


Is this the highest level of discourse Uber can present? It's comical!

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by ZedMan

Looks like Calgary isn't the only jurisdiction that has taken issue with Uber's background check process:

http://www.cnet.com/news/ubers-backg...-says-houston/

There's also a lawsuit in California over Uber's background checks allowing convicted felons, including violent felons, through their process.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

And as Nenshi stated in the twitter fight, apparently pardoned convictions.

And while I agree with GGG's post above about pardoned convictions, I'm not really sure what Uber's reasoning against the CPS background check would be.

I assume substantial cost or time difference? But they don't really explain it.

I haven't done a CPS background check, but I have done one with the RCMP. The main time cost was going to a detachment to get finger printed. The rest was what you would expect: You fill out a form where you detail where you've lived and worked over the last seven years and provide a list of references that they call and verify. They never told me about any of the background stuff they do, but that's also rather obvious: check against convictions, check against investigations, check for being on various lists they keep. In my case, this was all done in about 2-3 weeks.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by heep223

The future is probably automated vehicles. Which is going to be freaking awesome and put both taxis and uber out of business. Though what do you mean about "drive for free"?

Anyways here's a comparison of Calgary vs. Edmonton's regs:

http://www.calgary.ca/CSPS/ABS/Pages...TNC-Bylaw.aspx

I get being gleeful in this specific discussion, but do have any idea where this world is headed with automation? We're in the early stages of killing a frightening percentage of jobs and it's going to have disastrous ramifications on our society.

You should read up on it, it's fascinating and scary. It's great to be gleeful now...most people are because they just see the lower class jobs being automated and don't register any empathy with those people. Next up? Middle class jobs!

[Resolute 14]

Automation has been killing jobs for centuries.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Ya, but come on. Look at this.


Is this the highest level of discourse Uber can present? It's comical!

I think its a fair point to compare. The cities are essentially the same in this fight and Edmonton has come out with an acceptable proposal that both sides have agreed to.

Why does Calgary need a "made in Calgary" solution?

I have a friend who was on the committee for this stuff. They listed their recommendations before Edmonton proposed theirs. The committee is now saying that Edmonton's proposal is better.

[Wormius]

Question - is Edmonton's solution good for all ridesharing programs, or is it suited only to Uber? Likewise, what about Calgary's proposal? The way Calgary's proposal reads, it appears suited to allow a driver who has gone through the process of getting set up, to be able to drive for any ridesharing company. Edmonton's seems "Uber" specific, so driver's have to go through all sorts of additional hoops if they want to drive for Lyft, or just do their own thing.

http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-...ng-for-changes

[T@T]

I'm thinking Nenshi must own a few taxi plates or at least has a few friends who do.

So much political BS.

[Resolute 14]

Yeah. How DARE the jerk force Uber to compete on a level playing field and not allow drivers to operate commercially without insurance or proper background checks?

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Yeah. How DARE the jerk force Uber to compete on a level playing field and not allow drivers to operate commercially without insurance or proper background checks?

Because he's brown and therefore MUST have friends who drive taxis, and therefore MUST be acting in the best interest of his people.

[Swarly]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Because he's brown and therefore MUST have friends who drive taxis, and therefore MUST be acting in the best interest of his people.

Or the fact that he sure isn't acting in the best interest of anyone who doesn't own a taxi plate.