2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors v2

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Why do they 'need' him? Thats silly, no team needs Dennis Wideman. I guarantee there will be a D available on a pro tryout that will be as good as Wideman. If they want to hit the cap floor they will sign a usefull UFA or two.

.4 ppg defensemen?

[Karl]

Originally Posted by New Era

Please? This thread is supposed to be for actual news and discussion of actual rumors. At this time of the year we're hoping to hear some real news, not wild speculation.

No. It says Trade Speculation and Rumors. So really, what's wrong with some 'wild specualtion'? Plus, there's been much worse proposals here before.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Trailer Fire

Any chance of us getting Hellberg out of Hartford? He is slaying it on a mediocre/bad Wolfpack.

Brass bonanza!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6bwZbWZhAaM

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

1.) It isn't as much 'needing' him as it is 'finding a fit' for him.

2.) There are never any guarantees, least of which are PTOs. Ryan Wilson and Douglas Murray didn't make it with us and they had NHL experience.

3.) The defenceman UFA pool this year is extremely weak. If you're a GM, how much term are you willing to offer these guys? Yandle and Boyle will likely want to stay in New York, and the list pretty much drops off a cliff after that with Hamhuis and Russell. If hitting the cap floor was a concern, I'd personally feel much safer about a guy on an expiring 1 year deal than signing a UFA to term and big $.

Fair enough. Just seemed a stretch to say the leafs 'need' him.

[Split98]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I really hope the don't trade Wideman now. As long as we can get Monahan and Gaudreau done, his cap hit isn't a concern next season.

His value can only go up. With all this suspension garbage and his terrible play this year he's plummeted in value. I can only hope that in a contract year he gets back to last year's form. Last year's Wideman on an expiring contract returns us pretty great value. Right now, I'd be shocked we get anything useful.

[Samonadreau]

Also Wideman has a NTC or NMC or whatever. Hes worth garbage and gets to pick where he would go. So pretty much not gonna happen this deadline.

[Split98]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Also Wideman has a NTC or NMC or whatever. Hes worth garbage and gets to pick where he would go. So pretty much not gonna happen this deadline.

That's true, he'll want to go to a team with a shot at the prize. If the Flames aren't looking to re-sign him, and he's playing well enough that a good team will want him he may lift it then. Right now, there's really no reason for him to waive it.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Why do they 'need' him? Thats silly, no team needs Dennis Wideman. I guarantee there will be a D available on a pro tryout that will be as good as Wideman. If they want to hit the cap floor they will sign a usefull UFA or two.

That is foolish talk.
Dennis Wideman is better than a pro tryout dman.

[AcGold]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

That is foolish talk.
Dennis Wideman is better than a pro tryout dman.

Is he better than Schlemko?

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by AcGold

Is he better than Schlemko?

Last year he was.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by AcGold

Is he better than Schlemko?

This cherry tastes good.

[JurassicTunga12]

Draglikepull ‏@draglikepull Flames scouting at the Leafs game again tonight. (h/t @JeffVeillette) Sure is an awful lot of smoke if there isn't any fire.
Bernier playing back to back games. Showcase? w

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

Draglikepull ‏@draglikepull Flames scouting at the Leafs game again tonight. (h/t @JeffVeillette) Sure is an awful lot of smoke if there isn't any fire.
Bernier playing back to back games. Showcase? w

If we make a play for Bernier there has to be a contract going the other way. Wideman, Raymond, Engellend, or Smid

[JurassicTunga12]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

If we make a play for Bernier there has to be a contract going the other way. Wideman, Raymond, Engellend, or Smid

Indeed.

[saillias]

Futile Things Flames Management Likes to Do

-Fail at drafting & developing goaltending
-Trade its 2nd round picks
-Acquire little brothers of vastly superior players
-Trade with the TML

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

That is foolish talk.
Dennis Wideman is better than a pro tryout dman.

K, my Bias is showing its true colors.

[Split98]

Bonus: Burke gets to see BOTH goalies tonight

[dammage79]

Bernier pulled less than a minute into the 2nd, I assume the Flames scout just packed things up and headed out to the nearest pub.

Marincin not on the bench to start the 2nd either. Further need for the Leafs to get more NHL calibre D men.

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by saillias

Futile Things Flames Management Likes to Do

-Fail at drafting & developing goaltending
-Trade its 2nd round picks
-Acquire little brothers of vastly superior players
-Trade with the TML

Ritchie Regher
Markus Granlud
Freddie Hamilton
Valeri Bure

Can anyone think of anyone else?

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Psytic

Ritchie Regher
Markus Granlud
Freddie Hamilton
Valeri Bure

Can anyone think of anyone else?

Rob Niedermayer
Keith Seabrook