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Old 02-17-2016, 11:59 AM   #41
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Would Hudler + Ortio + 1st + 2nd + conditional 2nd be enough to grab Bishop out of Tampa?

The condition on the 2nd is if Hudler walks.
Terrible trade for the Flames. We can't be giving up a 1st for a goalie that could walk after a year
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:06 PM   #42
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The Flames, barring a deal popping up for Hiller, go with the Hiller + Ortio tandem. If someone wants Hiller, they will probably want to send a goalie back e.g. San Jose send Stalock + pick for Hiller, or if a team has an injury and wants Hiller, you grab an AHL guy and give Ortio a shot. Unless between now and the trade deadline, the Flames go on one hell of a winning streak, the season is done as far as playoffs are concerned, which means if a guy isn't going to be here next year, and there is an offer, you clear out

Address goaltending plan beyond this season via offseason trade and/or UFA
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:10 PM   #43
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I don't understand why Tampa would trade it's starting goalie before the play offs and go with 2 goalies that have a combined 33 games played in Gudlevski and Vasilevskiy
because they are being gifted a top 5 pick for a below average starting goaltender who is going to be a UFA?
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:13 PM   #44
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Though this is the worst injury, Ramo does seem to get hurt 1-2 times a year each year he's been here. I have to think that will factor into whether he's brought back or not. I can't see him being back unless he's the clear #2 behind a quality starter.
Give the guy a break. Getting injured on that play hardly indicates that he is fragile. It seems like he was a workhorse in the KHL and he had a very steady run this year. That was a bad collision. Could have happened to anyone.
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:13 PM   #45
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Trade Hiller if possible and let Poulin and Ortio battle it out for a spot on the roster next season.
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what a year to tank - wished it was last season when all these issue happened.
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:20 PM   #47
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because they are being gifted a top 5 pick for a below average starting goaltender who is going to be a UFA?
So you'd rather have a top 5 pick then potentially winning the Stanley Cup? I can't see the 4th place team in the east trading their starting goalie.
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:30 PM   #48
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None of the playoff teams are going to trade their goalie right before the playoffs, regardless of the return and it would be stupid for the Flames to trade a top 5 pick for 1 year of a goalie.

That's a horrible trade that's lose lose for both teams.
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:31 PM   #49
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Story of this season.



Two things:



1. If the Flames had even average Goaltending and

2. If the Flames had even average Special Teams



We'd be comfortably in the playoffs.

I agree absolutely. However, saying that riding Hiller is your best bet to make the playoffs is little more than a pipe dream.
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:36 PM   #50
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I agree absolutely. However, saying that riding Hiller is your best bet to make the playoffs is little more than a pipe dream.
Just because its your best bet doesnt mean its a good bet.
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:43 PM   #51
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The only return we could get for Hiller is someone else's bad contract.
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:48 PM   #52
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If Ortio falters when given his next start I would hope they throw Poulin a bone and find out if they can at least salvage one goaltender from this season. He's supposedly been very good for the Heat.
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There were scouts from the Flames (and a bunch of other teams) at the St. Louis - Dallas game last night. Both of these teams are in "win-now" mode, both have 2 solid goaltenders and both might be willing to swap one of them for another pending UFA/RFA goaltender if some additional scoring/defensive help was also included.

Brian Elliott or Kari Lehtonen (the starting goaltenders last night) would be a good addition to the Flames for the remainder of this year and one or two more.
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:54 PM   #54
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I say leave the goalie situation as is unless you can find a long term solution that makes sense or a low risk high reward situation. No stop gaps please. I'd personally like to see Ortio or Gillies getting time as well.
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There were scouts from the Flames (and a bunch of other teams) at the St. Louis - Dallas game last night. Both of these teams are in "win-now" mode, both have 2 solid goaltenders and both might be willing to swap one of them for another pending UFA/RFA goaltender if some additional scoring/defensive help was also included.

Brian Elliott or Kari Lehtonen (the starting goaltenders last night) would be a good addition to the Flames for the remainder of this year and one or two more.
At this point, I'd take Billy Elliot in net over Hiller or Ortio.
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Old 02-17-2016, 01:00 PM   #56
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what a year to tank - wished it was last season when all these issue happened.
I would only trade last season for a guarantee we got 1st overall otherwise I am not disappointed about it at all. Out 1st being 15th put us in a position to move the puck for Dougie which was a great trade.

This year the top 3 looks deadly and all 3 players fill big needs for the organization. Even the second tier picks 4-8 looks good.

Treliving came out today and basically said he is in a buy and sell mode. He is not trading for UFA's but if he can get a player that helps down the road he is open for business. Potential for more than just picks for our expirings.
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I thnk they are giving a tryout to Kelly Hrudy. This is the reason he took extended leave.
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Old 02-17-2016, 01:17 PM   #58
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I thnk they are giving a tryout to Kelly Hrudy. This is the reason he took extended leave.
I get the green text but it still isn't funny. The man's father died.
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Old 02-17-2016, 01:19 PM   #59
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The Flames should stick with Ortio. We know what Hiller is - a 34 year old goalie who doesn't belong in the NHL anymore. At least Ortio is a 25 year old goalie who may not belong in the NHL.
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