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Old 02-16-2016, 10:03 PM   #21
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disappointed to hear about Janko. Was hoping that he would be able to make the jump next year but it sounds like he may not pan out.

As an aside, can we not derail this about CalgaryNext. If people want to talk about that, quote the part of the post in the other thread and take it there.
It wasn't as critical as it sounds. Burke said his progression was expected and they were still high on him.
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Interesting. I wonder who we lost out on for that reason.

The Jankowski remark is also interesting. I am expecting them to let him walk.
Mike Riberio I imagine
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- See the draft as a big three, then five or six in the next tier, then fairly weak after that.
Likely big 3 of Mattews, Laine, Puljujarvi
Likely 5-6 grouping: Tkachuk, Chychrun, Nylander, Juolevi, Dubois
Plus one of: Sergachev? McLeod? Gauthier?
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Mike Riberio I imagine
The rumor was that Ribiero trade didn't go down because he blocked it with his NTC.

This is different I think, I believe what Burke meant was they tried to signa UFA but lost him when they wouldn't give him a full NTC in the contract.
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Interesting. I wonder who we lost out on for that reason.

The Jankowski remark is also interesting. I am expecting them to let him walk.
I think they are trying to defuse any worry about signing him. No need to get in hysteria about whether he signs or not if you get strong compensation when he doesn't sign.

I'd imagine we'll probably sign him.
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Mike Riberio I imagine
Wonder who the player was they lost out on for not taking the partial.
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The rumor was that Ribiero trade didn't go down because he blocked it with his NTC.

This is different I think, I believe what Burke meant was they tried to signa UFA but lost him when they wouldn't give him a full NTC in the contract.
Oh I see. That makes more sense now.
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Cammelleri would be another guess
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I think they are trying to defuse any worry about signing him. No need to get in hysteria about whether he signs or not if you get strong compensation when he doesn't sign.

I'd imagine we'll probably sign him.
No hysteria here. A 2nd rounder would be decent compensation, so either way I would be fine with it.
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No hysteria here. A 2nd rounder would be decent compensation, so either way I would be fine with it.
Is it an end of the 2nd round pick?

I'd take any second rounder over Jankowski. He looks like a dud.

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Is it an end of the 2nd round pick?
I believe it would be 30 picks after the player was drafted, so in this case it would be the 2017 51st overall.
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I believe it would be 30 picks after the player was drafted, so in this case it would be the 2017 51st overall.
I'd be far more excited with that than Jankowski.
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I think I know where the next ten pages of this discussion is going.
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Who said this one? It's a concerning quote.

It's been proven that faceoffs have a near zero impact on team success and it worries me that somebody in management would believe they are so important that they are the reason our PK is downright awful.

If the team is trying to improve the PK by improving their faceoff ability - it won't work.
Faceoffs in key situations are very important. He's right, you win the draw on the PK and you automatically kill 30 seconds, other than the team setting up exactly how they want with full posession. It is most definitely significant.
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Players who got full NTCs or NMCs last summer:
Beleskey
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Sekera
Soderberg (never hit UFA, trade and sign from Boston)
Niemi
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Players who got full NTCs or NMCs last summer:
Beleskey
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Niemi
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Niemi would make the most sense out of that group.
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disappointed to hear about Janko. Was hoping that he would be able to make the jump next year but it sounds like he may not pan out.
There's nothing to be disappointed about. Burke had high praise for him. He said he watched him on Friday (Burke was in Providence to get inducted into the Providence College Sports Hall of Fame) and he has great size and all the right tools, he just isn't at an NHL pace yet, which is to be expected for a guy in College.

He'll probably need some time in the AHL, but they sounded very high on him.

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The Jankowski remark is also interesting. I am expecting them to let him walk.
The only way he walks is if he chooses to. Treliving said they will be offering him a contract and have every intention of signing him.
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Burkes comment on Jankowski is identical to what Corey Pronman said about him. Pronman doesn't think he has NHL potential though
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