09-20-2006, 06:59 PM
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Referee
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Over the hill
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Hugo Chavez calls Bush "The Devil"
This is all over the blogosphere, but I didn't see anything on it here. Apparently, the U.N. "still smells of sulfur" because Bush was there yesterday.
Who knew Hugo Chavez was so nutty?
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/worl...rtner=homepage
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09-20-2006, 07:01 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Chavez takes the easy way out using populist politics ... kinda like a angry cretien, or like that Danny Williams guy in NFLD.
Just grandstands in front of microphones, says what will get a cheer from the masses but never really does anything of substance to help his jurisdiction in the long run.
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09-20-2006, 07:03 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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He is an ego-maniac. He helps Bush much more than he hurts him.
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09-21-2006, 07:01 PM
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Had an idea!
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What did he call him today?
I can't remember the exact words, but it even caused me to take a double-take.
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09-21-2006, 07:17 PM
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Director of the HFBI
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Calgary
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More stuff from Chavez today:
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"He walks like this cowboy John Wayne," said Chavez. "He doesn't have the slightest idea of politics. He got where he is because he is the son of his father. He was an alcoholic, an ex-alcoholic. He's a sick man, full of complexes, but very dangerous now because he has a lot of power."
Chavez, clad in a fire-engine-red shirt, called Bush a "menace" and a "threat against life on the planet."
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CNN.com
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09-21-2006, 07:21 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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I think both men are very Dangerous
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09-21-2006, 07:49 PM
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor
I think both men are very Dangerous
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Chavez is dangerous?
He just likes to make himself look like an idiot on the international scene. I don't care what you think of Bush, as a leader of another country, you should show respect for the office fellow leaders hold.
Geeeez.
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09-21-2006, 08:02 PM
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Referee
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Over the hill
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure
Chavez is dangerous?
He just likes to make himself look like an idiot on the international scene. I don't care what you think of Bush, as a leader of another country, you should show respect for the office fellow leaders hold.
Geeeez.
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Apparently a big part of what Chavez is doing is campaigning for a seat on the U.N. Security council. His strategy is to pick up enough votes from countries with anti-american feelings/agendas, I guess. Time will tell whether it's a good strategy; my guess is not, since the whole thing makes him look kind of like a boob.
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09-21-2006, 08:05 PM
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan
Apparently a big part of what Chavez is doing is campaigning for a seat on the U.N. Security council. His strategy is to pick up enough votes from countries with anti-american feelings/agendas, I guess. Time will tell whether it's a good strategy; my guess is not, since the whole thing makes him look kind of like a boob.
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Poor way to campaign.
It makes him look much worse then a boob, but thats just my opinion.
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09-21-2006, 08:28 PM
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Had an idea!
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http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press...h09212006.html
CONG. RANGEL CONDEMNS CHAVEZ'S ATTACK ON BUSH
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WASHINGTON - I want to express my extreme displeasure with statements by the President of Venezuela attacking U.S. President George Bush in such a personal and disparaging way during his remarks at the United Nations General Assembly.
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http://reuters.myway.com/article/200...A-SPAT-DC.html
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - One of President George W. Bush's fiercest political opponents at home took his side on Thursday, calling Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez a "thug" for his remark that Bush is like the devil.
"Hugo Chavez fancies himself a modern day Simon Bolivar but all he is an everyday thug," House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said at a news conference, referring to Chavez' comments in a U.N. General Assembly speech on Wednesday.
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Good to see...
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09-22-2006, 02:53 AM
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Funny, the US is finally paying attention to the UN...
Chavez is far from being the only person on the planet that does not hold Dubya in high regard. Good for him for speaking his mind and not fearing the repercussions. I love Venezuela, they're like the little country that could.
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09-22-2006, 06:22 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames in 07
Chavez takes the easy way out using populist politics ... kinda like a angry cretien, or like that Danny Williams guy in NFLD.
Just grandstands in front of microphones, says what will get a cheer from the masses but never really does anything of substance to help his jurisdiction in the long run.
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WOW. You really have NO IDEA what Danny Williams has done for this province since came to power. Until you do, keep you random unsupported comments to yourself becuase you don't know what you are talking about.
Sorry to get off topic here but it had to be said.
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09-22-2006, 07:47 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Austin, Tx
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Mile Style
Funny, the US is finally paying attention to the UN...
Chavez is far from being the only person on the planet that does not hold Dubya in high regard. Good for him for speaking his mind and not fearing the repercussions. I love Venezuela, they're like the little country that could.
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Yeah way to love a guy who is trying to become a dictator of his country and has way to much power over his people. I am no fan of Bush, but Chavez is taking a very dangerous path towards totalitarianism...
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09-22-2006, 07:49 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: up north (by the airport)
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Chavez: Bush is the Devil!
Bush: Welcome to America Hugo. Try the spinach.
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09-22-2006, 08:10 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Sowa
Yeah way to love a guy who is trying to become a dictator of his country and has way to much power over his people. I am no fan of Bush, but Chavez is taking a very dangerous path towards totalitarianism...
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Buuuuuuuuuuuull****!!! Chavez has done more for the people of Venzeuela than any leader in the past 100 years. They now have a working healthcare system, one that is superior to that in America. Their education system has taken huge steps forward. They are begining to build industries in their country that will insure their success long after the oil dries up. He's making Venezuela a country that can stand on its own. The people there love the guy and for good reason. He's one of the first leaders to stand up to other nations and look out for the best interests of Venezuelans first, instead of lining his own pockets with payoffs from other nations. The standard of living of ALL people in Venezuela has improved, not just the elites. His country is one of the few where the economic disparity does not continue to go in opposite directions at break neck speed.
It's really too bad that people don't bother to read the whole text of what Chavez had to say. Too bad most are to stupid to think for themselves. The 30 second sound bite and the two paragraph report of the metaphorical statement by Chavez is what casts him in a bad light. Too bad the rest of his words fall on deaf ears.
If anyone is interested, here's the text of his speech.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...092000893.html
If anyone bothers to read, Chavez makes some excellent points. Points that most have no comprehension of as they don't even follow what is going on in their own country let alone others. What happens in Latin America isn't even on the radar for people, so his comments will not resonate. Too bad, as he makes some really great points.
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09-22-2006, 08:44 AM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Azure
I don't care what you think of Bush, as a leader of another country, you should show respect for the office fellow leaders hold.
Geeeez.
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So the US should have shown respect for Saddam?
No? I guess you not, because while you bleet about the need to respect Bush, several posts down, you've got the opposite opinion about criticism.
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - One of President George W. Bush's fiercest political opponents at home took his side on Thursday, calling Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez a "thug" for his remark that Bush is like the devil.
"Hugo Chavez fancies himself a modern day Simon Bolivar but all he is an everyday thug," House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said at a news conference, referring to Chavez' comments in a U.N. General Assembly speech on Wednesday.
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Originally Posted by Azure
Good to see...
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So which is it?
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09-22-2006, 09:08 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Don't see the big deal. All Chavez is doing is speaking aloud what 49.9% of the American people and all of Canada think about Bush.
Now watch this shot! hehe
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09-22-2006, 09:22 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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No matter what I think of Bush, I honestly cannot believe it when someone thinks that Chavez is "doing something right" and "has a point."
Reminds me of Western "intelectuals" who admired Stalin and Mao. History does repeat itself, afterall.
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09-22-2006, 09:24 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Kobatuzzied
Don't see the big deal. All Chavez is doing is speaking aloud what 49.9% of the American people and all of Canada think about Bush.
Now watch this shot! hehe
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I don't like Bush and I think he is a waste of skin...but he not the Devil. So not all Canadians think he is the Devil.
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09-22-2006, 09:56 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Austin, Tx
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanny_MacDonald
Buuuuuuuuuuuull****!!! Chavez has done more for the people of Venzeuela than any leader in the past 100 years. They now have a working healthcare system, one that is superior to that in America. Their education system has taken huge steps forward. They are begining to build industries in their country that will insure their success long after the oil dries up. He's making Venezuela a country that can stand on its own. The people there love the guy and for good reason. He's one of the first leaders to stand up to other nations and look out for the best interests of Venezuelans first, instead of lining his own pockets with payoffs from other nations. The standard of living of ALL people in Venezuela has improved, not just the elites. His country is one of the few where the economic disparity does not continue to go in opposite directions at break neck speed.
It's really too bad that people don't bother to read the whole text of what Chavez had to say. Too bad most are to stupid to think for themselves. The 30 second sound bite and the two paragraph report of the metaphorical statement by Chavez is what casts him in a bad light. Too bad the rest of his words fall on deaf ears.
If anyone is interested, here's the text of his speech.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...092000893.html
If anyone bothers to read, Chavez makes some excellent points. Points that most have no comprehension of as they don't even follow what is going on in their own country let alone others. What happens in Latin America isn't even on the radar for people, so his comments will not resonate. Too bad, as he makes some really great points.
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Hey I didn't say the guy hasn't done things for his country, but he is doing everything he can to stay in power including trying to alter the constitution.
oh btw...
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Originally Posted by The Economist
Whatever the merits of the missions as emergency programmes, they stress quantity over quality. Meanwhile, Venezuela's public infrastructure, such as roads and hospitals, is crumbling. A deficit of 1.5m housing units is widening. Only a quarter of the 110,000 new houses needed each year are being built, because of the public sector's incompetence and its unwillingness to involve the private sector.
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So where did you get their healthcare is superior to ours?
http://www.economist.com/displayStor...ory_id=5526589
It also discusses that he has given himself power over a large portion of the gov't money to provide those emergency programs without having to answer to anyone else.
"Absolute power corrupts absolutely" - Voltaire
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