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Old 02-02-2016, 09:42 AM   #21
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I like Bishop but my only hesitation is he makes 6 million and only has a year left. Could he leave or demand even more money? Some definite risk there. Espeically if you're giving up quality assets.
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Old 02-02-2016, 09:43 AM   #22
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Old 02-02-2016, 09:46 AM   #23
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I like Bishop but my only hesitation is he makes 6 million and only has a year left. Could he leave or demand even more money? Some definite risk there. Espeically if you're giving up quality assets.
Agreed that is why I want to sneak Drouin in the deal so the Flames can add a long term asset if Bishop only ends up being a 1 year guy
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Old 02-02-2016, 09:49 AM   #24
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Bishop and Drouin is going to cost you a pretty penny. I don't know if we have the assets to get a package like that, I doubt Tampa would want an expiring Hudler and Russell.

Once again, I think we're in a position where we need to get a reclamation project (those don't usually go well), or try and steal away an up-and-coming #1. Honestly, I think the best of both would be Raanta.
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:07 AM   #25
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To me it sounds like the Flames are the only team really looking for a goalie. It's too bad the 2 they have are worthless on the trade market right now. I just can't see any teams wanting to take one of them as a backup but it would be great if we could get something for either of them.
Well to be fair, if they did have any value it wouldn't be a buyer's market and we'd be in tough to land a better option for cheap. I'll take this tradeoff.
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:09 AM   #26
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I'd like to see a Andersen for Ramo(or Hiller) + deal
Andersen is still young, is good, and can be a viable NHL starters for a years to come...
Certainly an improvement over Ramo imo...
hopefully Gillies, McDonald or Ortio develop into something, but we need a solid G for the next few years.
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:12 AM   #27
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Wings might just want to get rid of him, Mrazek looks like the real deal. Might not have to give up anything of value

EDIT: yikes $5.3M for three more years? That's a terrible contract. They might have to retain salary and/or give the Flames something to take it
Flames are paying $8.3M for their goalies this year. You could get Howard and then some cheap back-up and still save money from what's being paid this year.
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:20 AM   #28
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I guess I read that a bit differently. Flames are prime goalie sellers - both short term playoff tested vets, good on your bench if you don't trust your current backup. I think any other goalie seller would be undercut by the Flames - Lindback for a second - no wait, Hillier for a fourth!

The line in that article that struck me was about Hudler - that earning less than Frolik & Hamilton is bothering him. If that is indeed the case then does that (feeling/attitude) flow down to the young guys, and if so, then no hometown discount or bridge contract there. Big concern to me and I would move him sooner rather than later.
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:40 AM   #29
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Ben Bishop is the veteran goalie I hope the Flames go after.

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I like Bishop but I'm not sure Drouin is worth the trouble. He seems the opposite of "Always earned; never given."
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:49 AM   #30
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Sounds like he is saying the Flames could go out there and grab a goalie right now if they want.
Perhaps, not the best choice of words for Friedman, but I understood his sentence regarding Calgary controlling the goalie market differently. I think he meant that "Calgary is the only team having two good quality back-up goalies to offer to any other team" and, if they decide to move one, there are teams willing to offer a good variety of what Calgary needs.
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Pavelec for a third round pick. Call me, I'll email Chevy until he caves
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:01 AM   #32
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I'd do Hiller for Pavelec and a 3rd from the Jets. We do them a favor since Pavelec is still signed for another year, hence why we get a 3rd back.
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:03 AM   #33
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I think the objective should be to get a good goalie in return somehow, not more of the same + a middling draft pick.
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:04 AM   #34
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I'm one of the few that likes Ramo, but even I think it might be time to wash their hands of both Hiller & Ramo and start anew next year with a free agent and maybe Ortio backing them up.
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:17 AM   #35
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Address the goalie situation in the off season, there is no point in doing it now.
I expect it will be addressed at the draft where the majority of big trades happen. I actually don't care who they bring in as long as their names aren't Hiller and Ramo.
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:26 AM   #36
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Flames are paying $8.3M for their goalies this year. You could get Howard and then some cheap back-up and still save money from what's being paid this year.
Yeah but its Howard for three more years not a few months...is he really the guy you want to go with for 3 years
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:53 AM   #37
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I thought we were riding with Gillies next year. Does he need more seasoning because of the injury? I would rather have the money spent elsewhere. Also, I wouldn't give up on Ortio yet.
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:57 AM   #38
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I thought we were riding with Gillies next year. Does he need more seasoning because of the injury? I would rather have the money spent elsewhere. Also, I wouldn't give up on Ortio yet.
He's going to need at least a full season in the AHL next season at the very least. His injury basically adds an extra season of development he's going to need.
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:58 AM   #39
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I thought we were riding with Gillies next year. Does he need more seasoning because of the injury? I would rather have the money spent elsewhere. Also, I wouldn't give up on Ortio yet.
Yeah Gillies probably needs at least 1-3 years in the minors. He's not an option yet.
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:59 AM   #40
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I could see Anderssen, Howard, Leightonen, Pavelec, Ward, Bernier, Neuvirth and maybe Smith or Enroth being traded.
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